Sony E 10-18 f/4 OSS

Started Oct 23, 2020 | Questions
Mike Evangelist
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Re: Sony E 10-18 f/4 OSS
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As others have said, it is an excellent lens, which you may be able to find used for a much more reasonable price. I loved mine when I was shooting APS-C bodies.

The Zeiss 12mm Touit is a nice alternative as well, probably obtainable for a similar price. (just make sure it's got the version .2 firmware if you're looking at the Touit, as it has to be sent to Zeiss if it needs the update)

Here's a few from each...

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OP sunhorse Senior Member • Posts: 1,802
Re: Sony E 10-18 f/4 OSS

mcslsk wrote:

Like others have already set (and supported with images): It is a good lens. While I own it, I do use the Samyang 12mm more often together with the 1655/2.8. The Samyang is faster, smaller, less expensive and sharper. 12mm is mostly enough when traveling with the 1655. Only if I know that I will need ultra wide I take only the 1018 and nothing else.

I have some age-related eyesight problems, so a manual focus lens would not be my first choice. Also, when I owned a Fuji XPro-2, I really enjoyed the 10-24 and I'm looking for an equivalent that would be usable in tight spaces like bazaars and markets. I see carrying this lens around, together with a fast prime like the Sigma 30 f/1.4.

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MrSee
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Really nice set Mike!

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nkistrup
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OT: What's special about the 0.2 Zeiss Touit 12mm firmware?

Mike Evangelist wrote:

As others have said, it is an excellent lens, which you may be able to find used for a much more reasonable price. I loved mine when I was shooting APS-C bodies.

The Zeiss 12mm Touit is a nice alternative as well, probably obtainable for a similar price. (just make sure it's got the version .2 firmware if you're looking at the Touit, as it has to be sent to Zeiss if it needs the update)

Here's a few from each...

Hi Mike,

What did this firmware upgrade do with the 12mm lens?

BTW, love this photo.

Niels

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Mike Evangelist
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Re: OT: What's special about the 0.2 Zeiss Touit 12mm firmware?

nkistrup wrote:

What did this firmware upgrade do with the 12mm lens?

BTW, love this photo.

Niels

Thanks!

From the Zeiss site:

"Touit 2.8/12 E-mount & Touit 1.8/32 E-mount:

An update to firmware version 02 is available for the Touit 2.8/12 and Touit 1.8/32 lenses with E-mount. With this version, the lenses also support phase detection autofocus and the fast hybrid autofocus of newer Sony E-mount cameras."

https://www.zeiss.com/consumer-products/us/service/download-center/photography/software/software-touit-e-mount.html

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gumby_ng Forum Member • Posts: 50
Re: Sony E 10-18 f/4 OSS

I had one and I certainly miss the size and convenience but I really had a hard time justifying the budget. For the amount I sold it for I was able to expand my Nikon D5200 kit (Sigma 10-20, Sigma 17-50) and keep a6000 kit relatively the same (Samyang 12mm, Sigma 19mm). Lost some convenience and size but added a low light capable kit lens replacement and better uwa low light capability. If I could get one for even 2/3rds of the cost I would consider it again.

If you can afford it, then yes.

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Re: Sony E 10-18 f/4 OSS

sunhorse wrote:

mcslsk wrote:

Like others have already set (and supported with images): It is a good lens. While I own it, I do use the Samyang 12mm more often together with the 1655/2.8. The Samyang is faster, smaller, less expensive and sharper. 12mm is mostly enough when traveling with the 1655. Only if I know that I will need ultra wide I take only the 1018 and nothing else.

I have some age-related eyesight problems, so a manual focus lens would not be my first choice. Also, when I owned a Fuji XPro-2, I really enjoyed the 10-24 and I'm looking for an equivalent that would be usable in tight spaces like bazaars and markets. I see carrying this lens around, together with a fast prime like the Sigma 30 f/1.4.

Fair point, though DoF at this focal length requires often only to set the lens to HFL and done.

idsurfer Contributing Member • Posts: 588
Re: Sony E 10-18 f/4 OSS
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I avoided it for years due to high price for a slow zoom and reports of copy variation. I finally started looking for one on the used market as I was just so intrigued with the idea of an UWA zoom with AF. I figured I'd sell for minimal loss if I wasn't happy. I found a mint copy for a very good price. I happy to day it seems to be good performer. So my thoughts are these...

- I think it is a great lens to have in the bag.

- Slow but I always stop down when shooting wide anyhow

- IMO Worth up to about $450 USD, but not much more. I'd never think for a second about paying new retail for this lens.

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Joachim Wulfers
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Sony E 10-18 f/4 OSS for Fall colours
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Today I took two wide angle shots of a pond surrounded by very colourful trees. One at 18mm and another at 10mm

at 18mm

At 10mm

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OP sunhorse Senior Member • Posts: 1,802
Re: Sony E 10-18 f/4 OSS for Fall colours

Very nice images. These are the sort of wide views that I'd love to be able to shoot and the 10-18 looks like it would be great for this.

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PointsMD Forum Member • Posts: 70
Re: Sony E 10-18 f/4 OSS
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mcslsk wrote:

sunhorse wrote:

mcslsk wrote:

Like others have already set (and supported with images): It is a good lens. While I own it, I do use the Samyang 12mm more often together with the 1655/2.8. The Samyang is faster, smaller, less expensive and sharper. 12mm is mostly enough when traveling with the 1655. Only if I know that I will need ultra wide I take only the 1018 and nothing else.

I have some age-related eyesight problems, so a manual focus lens would not be my first choice. Also, when I owned a Fuji XPro-2, I really enjoyed the 10-24 and I'm looking for an equivalent that would be usable in tight spaces like bazaars and markets. I see carrying this lens around, together with a fast prime like the Sigma 30 f/1.4.

Fair point, though DoF at this focal length requires often only to set the lens to HFL and done.

HFL?

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D00M
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Re: Sony E 10-18 f/4 OSS

PointsMD wrote:

mcslsk wrote:

sunhorse wrote:

mcslsk wrote:

Like others have already set (and supported with images): It is a good lens. While I own it, I do use the Samyang 12mm more often together with the 1655/2.8. The Samyang is faster, smaller, less expensive and sharper. 12mm is mostly enough when traveling with the 1655. Only if I know that I will need ultra wide I take only the 1018 and nothing else.

I have some age-related eyesight problems, so a manual focus lens would not be my first choice. Also, when I owned a Fuji XPro-2, I really enjoyed the 10-24 and I'm looking for an equivalent that would be usable in tight spaces like bazaars and markets. I see carrying this lens around, together with a fast prime like the Sigma 30 f/1.4.

Fair point, though DoF at this focal length requires often only to set the lens to HFL and done.

HFL?

I am guessing he is referring to Hyperfocal Distance.  HFL=hyperfocal length?

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Yes, HFD, sorry.

DooS New Member • Posts: 15
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It's an OK lens, but it's really overpriced. I came into Sony crop system from Canon M and I am still using both. (I needed better video capabilities). When traveling, I used to carry two small cameras, it felt more practical than changing lanses. Usually one with wide angle and one with indors/low light lens. With a6500 I am using Sigma 30mm/Samyang 12mm combo but if I felt I need wide angle zoom, I would just buy Canon EF-M 11-22 again for my M's. (I sold it) I am brand agnostic and for the price of E 10-18 you can buy EF-M 11-22 (and it is a better lens than Sony) AND Canon m100 or second hand m50 camera. So you get nice camera and better lens for the same price. Some of the Sony lenses are waaaay overpriced for what you get for your money at least compared to Canon.

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cxsparc
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Bought it used at 400 so fair. Best from 10 to 15 mm and f5.6. f8 is sometimes worse. Great colors. Not as sharp as the new zooms 1655 and 70350. Use it mostly at 10mm.

Ultralight weight at 200g.

Slow aperture can be compensated by Program shift simply dial in P aperture up shutterspeed down. OSS and small focal length can allow very low shutter speeds.

However at present I use the 1655 and stitch for panos. Uwa is more for interiors or landscapes, architecture.

Checked in my archives and 12 mm is NOT enough for me so no alternative.

I provided samples in this forum some weeks ago.

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2011nikonian
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Did you buy one?

Reading this thread, it seems the biggest complaint about the lens is it's price.. Barring a few owners complaining of soft corners at wide (r) apertures, I don't read many complaints from owners.

More non-owners are citing 'copy variations' than actual owners..

needless to say I'm interested..

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DenverSteve Contributing Member • Posts: 694
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I have nothing but positives with this lens. It's a lens every shooter should have in their bag.  It's not slow - it's f4 - it is what it is. Some of Sony's (and other brands) best lenses are f4 and performance is as good as any other lens in the kit.

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idsurfer Contributing Member • Posts: 588
Re: Sony E 10-18 f/4 OSS

DenverSteve wrote:

I have nothing but positives with this lens. It's a lens every shooter should have in their bag. It's not slow - it's f4 - it is what it is. Some of Sony's (and other brands) best lenses are f4 and performance is as good as any other lens in the kit.

I totally agree with you. I love having this lens. I used it all day today.  By slow I just meant not prime fast, that's all. F4 is fine. It's such a great zoom range in a small lightweight package... I'll never let mine go.

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OP sunhorse Senior Member • Posts: 1,802
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Yes I did! Thanks to the many people who responded. I'm very happy with it so far and will be posting some snapshots from around town.

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Joachim Wulfers
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sunhorse wrote:

Yes I did! Thanks to the many people who responded. I'm very happy with it so far and will be posting some snapshots from around town.

Here is a night shot appropriate for the season:

There is even a Santa peeking out of the outhouse

JoWul
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