How do I keep E1 iii focus point to ONE point

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Isabel Cutler
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How do I keep E1 iii focus point to ONE point

It keeps changed to either a full grid or something larger than 1 point.  Waste of time having to change it to one point.

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Re: How do I keep E1 iii focus point to ONE point
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Two things I can think of is that 1) are you on any of your C1-C4 that you present AF point other than one point 2) did you have lever to mode 2 where it changes to C-AF that you set up AF differently?

Anyhow, I have never had this issue happened to me and cannot think of any other scenarios.

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Doxa750 wrote:

Two things I can think of is that 1) are you on any of your C1-C4 that you present AF point other than one point 2) did you have lever to mode 2 where it changes to C-AF that you set up AF differently?

Anyhow, I have never had this issue happened to me and cannot think of any other scenarios.

Actually, I don't use the lever modes, but mine was at position one.

I run into problems when I want to use the back wheel to change my shutter speed and it switches to changing the size of the focus area.

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Re: How do I keep E1 iii focus point to ONE point
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Isabel Cutler wrote:

It keeps changed to either a full grid or something larger than 1 point. Waste of time having to change it to one point.

Isabel

Are you perhaps inadvertently pressing in on the joy stick before using the back dial? Pressing in on the joystick activates the grid change screen. Handy if you know it’s there.

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Isabel Cutler
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Re: How do I keep E1 iii focus point to ONE point

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Are you perhaps inadvertently pressing in on the joy stick before using the back dial? Pressing in on the joystick activates the grid change screen. Handy if you know it’s there.

That's entirely possible.  I will watch out for that!

The EM10 ii to which I'm very used to has way fewer opportunities to screw up!

I am, however, very glad I got the EM1 iii FOR the presence of the joystick.  It is very, very helpful!

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Re: How do I keep E1 iii focus point to ONE point

gary0319 wrote:

Isabel Cutler wrote:

It keeps changed to either a full grid or something larger than 1 point. Waste of time having to change it to one point.

Isabel

Are you perhaps inadvertently pressing in on the joy stick before using the back dial? Pressing in on the joystick activates the grid change screen. Handy if you know it’s there.

Agreed that likely the issue.

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sunnydayz Regular Member • Posts: 102
Re: How do I keep E1 iii focus point to ONE point

gary0319 wrote:

Isabel Cutler wrote:

It keeps changed to either a full grid or something larger than 1 point. Waste of time having to change it to one point.

Isabel

Are you perhaps inadvertently pressing in on the joy stick before using the back dial? Pressing in on the joystick activates the grid change screen. Handy if you know it’s there.

As Gary said...

Multi selector

All it takes is to nudge the multi selector (ms) and turn the rear dial and your focus mode changes. If you're not hitting the ms, then maybe it is activated somehow. Try exercising / moving the ms in all directions, manually return your focus point back to center and see if that stops your issue.

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Re: How do I keep E1 iii focus point to ONE point

I disable the joystick from being able to move the focus points except in certain custom modes for just this reason.

CDC

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Isabel Cutler wrote:

It keeps changed to either a full grid or something larger than 1 point. Waste of time having to change it to one point.

Isabel

I had the same problem on my E-M10-II - never found the solution.

Then I got the E-M10 IV, and suddenly it all fell into place.

Can you get a Super Control Panel, like this?

I am asking because on tmy E-M10 Mark II I get it with the OK button, on the Mark IV it is on a button to the left of the ON-OFF switch.

I have selected the AF area (yellow). Pressing the OK button now gives me this:

I pressed the info button for the prompt on the left in yellow above the info prompt. Pressing the info button again replaces the yellow prompts with other options.

Now I can use the 4-way toggle up/down to give me the desired area:

Pressing OK again gets me into shooting mode on the Mark IV and the Mark II, but on the Mark IV I have to press the button beside the ON-OFF switch to get the Super Control Panel back, to confirm my changed setting -

My E-M10 II has a menu that is 3 levels deep in places, but the SCP only looks 2 levels deep. This has caused me some lock-outs in the past.

All the above palaver has finally got me sorted out with my beginners' models.

I have done this answer in the hope that it may help you to break out of running round in circles.

Henry

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Isabel Cutler
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Re: How do I keep E1 iii focus point to ONE point

Henry Falkner wrote:

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I had the same problem on my E-M10-II - never found the solution.

Then I got the E-M10 IV, and suddenly it all fell into place.

Can you get a Super Control Panel, like this?

I am asking because on tmy E-M10 Mark II I get it with the OK button, on the Mark IV it is on a button to the left of the ON-OFF switch.

I have selected the AF area (yellow). Pressing the OK button now gives me this:

I pressed the info button for the prompt on the left in yellow above the info prompt. Pressing the info button again replaces the yellow prompts with other options.

Now I can use the 4-way toggle up/down to give me the desired area:

Pressing OK again gets me into shooting mode on the Mark IV and the Mark II, but on the Mark IV I have to press the button beside the ON-OFF switch to get the Super Control Panel back, to confirm my changed setting -

My E-M10 II has a menu that is 3 levels deep in places, but the SCP only looks 2 levels deep. This has caused me some lock-outs in the past.

All the above palaver has finally got me sorted out with my beginners' models.

I have done this answer in the hope that it may help you to break out of running round in circles.

Henry

Thank you, Henry.  Yes, I have the Super Control Panel, but it doesn't seem to work the way you describe. "Info" doesn't appear on the lower left of the screen.   I just have the front and back wheels working to control the size of the focus point(s) displayed as well as the cursors.

It doesn't seem to happening now, though I can't say what I changed that made the difference.  It would be nice if I could figure out what I did and if the solution is permanent!

Isabel

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Maria_H Regular Member • Posts: 250
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Hi Isabel

Not sure what went wrong for you here in the first place. When I moved up from the mark II to mark III, I was used to the back, top right hand corner button being the one to change the focusing points. On the mark III it is set to ISO. As I largely use auto-ISO, I have customised this button to be set to change between focusing points again. It's now a quick and easy way to change them - simply touch the button and use the front dial, as required.

Additionally, I have different initial focusing points set up in C1 to C4 - a quick and easy way to change to a whole new and known set of parameters. I think one of the issues is that the camera is just too customisable - and additionally some functions change or move between models. Everyone uses the camera differently, so there is no right or wrong way to set it up - but it can be very confusing if it's not working as expected and you're not sure what has changed.

Good luck!

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Maria_H wrote:

Hi Isabel

Not sure what went wrong for you here in the first place. When I moved up from the mark II to mark III, I was used to the back, top right hand corner button being the one to change the focusing points. On the mark III it is set to ISO. As I largely use auto-ISO, I have customised this button to be set to change between focusing points again. It's now a quick and easy way to change them - simply touch the button and use the front dial, as required.

Additionally, I have different initial focusing points set up in C1 to C4 - a quick and easy way to change to a whole new and known set of parameters. I think one of the issues is that the camera is just too customisable - and additionally some functions change or move between models. Everyone uses the camera differently, so there is no right or wrong way to set it up - but it can be very confusing if it's not working as expected and you're not sure what has changed.

Good luck!

Maria
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I was  Day1 purchaser of the E-M1 III. I immediately proceeded to set it up to mimic the setting on my E-M1 II......it was a waste of time. After trying to get things right with the E-M1 III, where there was little information available in those early days,  I finally started seeking out information on how to set up the E-M1 X. Things got better.

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Re: How do I keep E1 iii focus point to ONE point
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Maria_H wrote:

Hi Isabel

. I think one of the issues is that the camera is just too customisable - and additionally some functions change or move between models. Everyone uses the camera differently, so there is no right or wrong way to set it up - but it can be very confusing if it's not working as expected and you're not sure what has changed.

Good luck!

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Thank you, Maria.

Yes...too customizable!!!  There is at least one EM1 iii book coming out soon and I hope I can go through that and find the easiest settings for me to remember.

I keep changing where things are and it's not easy for my old brain to remember what I changed!

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Isabel, rest assured that you are not the only one who has an "Old Brain" problem!😆

I intend to get a MKIII myself at some point, and I am not looking forward to trying to learn another complicated camera.  I kind of miss the simplicity of the "Old" film cameras.  I actually have my MKII set up to work very simply, for my simple old brain. And I am very, very happy with it and the results it gives me.

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Isabel Cutler wrote:

Thank you, Henry. Yes, I have the Super Control Panel, but it doesn't seem to work the way you describe.

Surprise, surprise

"Info" doesn't appear on the lower left of the screen. I just have the front and back wheels working to control the size of the focus point(s) displayed as well as the cursors.

It doesn't seem to happening now, though I can't say what I changed that made the difference. It would be nice if I could figure out what I did and if the solution is permanent!

Isabel

This was the stage I was in when I got the E-M10 Mark IV. Just to confuse things further - I did the same documentation on the EM-10 II within the last half hour.

Pressing the OK button on the E-M10 Mark II gives me the Super Control Panel:

Pressing OK again gives me the grid indicated in the Super Control Panel:

Now this has the 'INFO'  prompt, so I pressed the INFO button.

Voila:

Now I get the prompt for toggling up and down to select the desired green area.

I remember, when I had the Super Control Panel at my start with the E-M10 II, I pressed the INFO button straight away, and all I then got was the grid shown in the SCP, and nothing else would change it.

You might get your SCP to show, which you can do reliably, then go through the buttons you have, until you see the 'INFO' prompt.

Hope this is not another red herring for you.

Henry

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