Is the new 10-24mmF4 R IOS RW worth 44% more than the old?

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pgarth New Member • Posts: 1
Is the new 10-24mmF4 R IOS RW worth 44% more than the old?

In Australia, I can buy the old 10-24mmF4 R IOS for $1111. The new XF10-24mmF4 R OIS WR can be pre ordered for $1599, an extra $488 or 44% more. Just about every review I have read of the old 10-24mm IOS R have all drawn attention to the fact this lens doesn't have weather resistance, no marked aperture scale on the aperture ring, and no lock the to stop accidentally changing the selected f stop. It also give 1 stop better IOS.

As I have never used the old lens, I would be interested to know if you believe the $488 premium to be worth it in the long run?

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pgarth wrote:

In Australia, I can buy the old 10-24mmF4 R IOS for $1111. The new XF10-24mmF4 R OIS WR can be pre ordered for $1599, an extra $488 or 44% more. Just about every review I have read of the old 10-24mm IOS R have all drawn attention to the fact this lens doesn't have weather resistance, no marked aperture scale on the aperture ring, and no lock the to stop accidentally changing the selected f stop. It also give 1 stop better IOS.

As I have never used the old lens, I would be interested to know if you believe the $488 premium to be worth it in the long run?

I'd suggest waiting on the release of the v2 of the lens, and read all the new reviews that compare the two.   YOU decide whether the difference is worthwhile.

That's what I'm doing.  I have the original, not thinking about getting v2.   Yet I'm looking forward to seeing how they compare once out and put to use (I can be tempted).

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pgarth wrote:

In Australia, I can buy the old 10-24mmF4 R IOS for $1111. The new XF10-24mmF4 R OIS WR can be pre ordered for $1599, an extra $488 or 44% more. Just about every review I have read of the old 10-24mm IOS R have all drawn attention to the fact this lens doesn't have weather resistance, no marked aperture scale on the aperture ring, and no lock the to stop accidentally changing the selected f stop. It also give 1 stop better IOS.

As I have never used the old lens, I would be interested to know if you believe the $488 premium to be worth it in the long run?

Or stated another way, will your photography improve by 44%? It's like buying a new car or new tv costing 44% more to replace what you had.

I've been using the current version of the 10-24. It's a magnificent lens and there's no way I'd trade up because the new and improved version won't improve anything for me over the first version by 44%.

Similar logic applies to the new 50 f/1 versus the 56 f/1.2 lens.

Older gear has its quirks but the latest and greatest new gear isn't always beneficial if you're functioning completely well with what was state-of-the-art a couple of years ago.

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With all respect, no one here can answer this question but you. We don't know your financial status. For some of us, $488 might be pocket change, for others it's a significant amount.

All what I can say is, there are definitely people here who are eagerly waiting for this lens, and to them it's worth the extra 44%.

Many others who already have the old one are basically waiting to read some reviews before putting in a pre-order.

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jhorse Veteran Member • Posts: 4,355
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Hi, as a satisfied user of the current model the replies about whether the additional features and whether you will see a 44% improvement in your images are pretty objective.

I think it boils down to whether there will be an improvement in image quality, and from what I have read the answer is likely to be no as the same optics are used (there was one source saying that the coatings may have changed), or whether the new features such as weather resistance will help in the environments in which you use it.

I would also see both a drop in the new price of the current model as retailers restock with the new model and some great deals on second hand copies, it may be worth waiting.

Hope that helps.

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Terry Reis
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I am a big fan of the new lens, as its imminent release enabled me to pick up a brand new copy of the older one at a bargain price.

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21William Contributing Member • Posts: 526
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Much depends exactly what the differences are and whether it effects image quality. If all goes well future tests (if anyone does them) will show the new lens is a least equal to the lens it replaced or hopefully a bit better. As the old lens is generally regarded as very good that remains to be seen though. I’ve taken many thousands of photos on cameras without any form of weather sealing. Would this feature now temp me to go out and take pictures in the pouring rain? No, after 50 years I still don't want to get wet taking pictures. Now, if I lived in a country like Bahrain that would be a different matter. 

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pgarth wrote:

As I have never used the old lens, I would be interested to know if you believe the $488 premium to be worth it in the long run?

That money goes, primarily, towards the User Experience of the lens. You have to decide how much you enjoy the marked aperture ring, and not covering the camera in a raincoat when shooting in challenging conditions.

As others have said – and as I will do, too – let's wait and see what it looks like in the hands of reviewers. I bet by 2021 we'll have one hundred comparison videos.

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jjz2 Senior Member • Posts: 2,604
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I think the old one will drop further once people upgrade...

I'm considering swapping my 14mm for the 10-24... I know the 14 is a better lens... but the versatility and OIS could help me... I never bring a tripod, so 10-24 technically better in low light like sunrise or sunset shots when stopped down.

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pgarth wrote:

In Australia, I can buy the old 10-24mmF4 R IOS for $1111. The new XF10-24mmF4 R OIS WR can be pre ordered for $1599, an extra $488 or 44% more. Just about every review I have read of the old 10-24mm IOS R have all drawn attention to the fact this lens doesn't have weather resistance, no marked aperture scale on the aperture ring, and no lock the to stop accidentally changing the selected f stop. It also give 1 stop better IOS.

As I have never used the old lens, I would be interested to know if you believe the $488 premium to be worth it in the long run?

Definitely YES.

I'm looking to buy one, the v1. I hope to find some used v1, in excellent condition, at reasonable prices

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For me, it isn't worth the cost.  Although I do wish my current 10-24 had a marked aperture ring, that's really just a minor preference.  I don't normally shoot in adverse conditions so the WR isn't necessary for my style.  The optics haven't changed from what I've read, so it would basically not be any improvement for me except the plus of the aperture ring.

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biza43 Forum Pro • Posts: 13,021
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For some yes, for others no.

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I have the old lens and find it wonderful and you can also add me to the list of people who don't like going out in the rain to shoot, however, a few years ago my wife and I traveled to Ireland for 2 weeks and every day was off and on rain so I always had to scramble to protect my camera and lens, sometimes at a moments notice. I can see the value of having a WR set-up for my trips, or at home, even if it's just a few lenses for certain instances where I have no alternative. Great peace of mind.

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noorhe Junior Member • Posts: 36
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It also depends on whether you will be doing video. I believe the new lens has been designed keeping in mind the videographers and will be more video friendly. X Summit mentioned that it will be good for video (something to that effect).

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pgarth wrote:

In Australia, I can buy the old 10-24mmF4 R IOS for $1111. The new XF10-24mmF4 R OIS WR can be pre ordered for $1599, an extra $488 or 44% more. Just about every review I have read of the old 10-24mm IOS R have all drawn attention to the fact this lens doesn't have weather resistance, no marked aperture scale on the aperture ring, and no lock the to stop accidentally changing the selected f stop. It also give 1 stop better IOS.

As I have never used the old lens, I would be interested to know if you believe the $488 premium to be worth it in the long run?

The aperture scale and the better IOS is something to consider and you get what you see. WR resistance doesn't hurt of course but is may be a little bit overrated. First, few people actually use the lens in bad weather of dusty environments. Second, if this is the case, WR doesn't probably give the protection you need. Look at the warranty conditions and you know what I mean.

I have no indication that the image quality will improved too. The current one seems to be just fine as many have reported.

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Craig268 wrote:

pgarth wrote:

In Australia, I can buy the old 10-24mmF4 R IOS for $1111. The new XF10-24mmF4 R OIS WR can be pre ordered for $1599, an extra $488 or 44% more. Just about every review I have read of the old 10-24mm IOS R have all drawn attention to the fact this lens doesn't have weather resistance, no marked aperture scale on the aperture ring, and no lock the to stop accidentally changing the selected f stop. It also give 1 stop better IOS.

As I have never used the old lens, I would be interested to know if you believe the $488 premium to be worth it in the long run?

Or stated another way, will your photography improve by 44%? It's like buying a new car or new tv costing 44% more to replace what you had.

I've been using the current version of the 10-24. It's a magnificent lens and there's no way I'd trade up because the new and improved version won't improve anything for me over the first version by 44%.

Similar logic applies to the new 50 f/1 versus the 56 f/1.2 lens.

Older gear has its quirks but the latest and greatest new gear isn't always beneficial if you're functioning completely well with what was state-of-the-art a couple of years ago.

For some, WR alone is easily worth the extra price.

Similar logic applies with new 50/f1 vs 56/f1.2.

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pgarth wrote:

In Australia, I can buy the old 10-24mmF4 R IOS for $1111. The new XF10-24mmF4 R OIS WR can be pre ordered for $1599, an extra $488 or 44% more. Just about every review I have read of the old 10-24mm IOS R have all drawn attention to the fact this lens doesn't have weather resistance, no marked aperture scale on the aperture ring, and no lock the to stop accidentally changing the selected f stop. It also give 1 stop better IOS.

As I have never used the old lens, I would be interested to know if you believe the $488 premium to be worth it in the long run?

Unless you need WR just go with the old one...you can pick up a used one for even cheaper, it's price will drop even more in the coming months...I got all my fuji lenses used & no issues.

If you want WR & the other features it's still best to wait a bit for reviews & also buy it on sale...so the key is patience lol.

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I would be happy with either lens.

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WDeranged Regular Member • Posts: 119
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From what I'm hearing image quality will be the same.  OIS is slightly improved but it barely matters when you're shooting this wide.  So it seems that the biggest difference will be weather sealing and the marked aperture ring.  There doesn't seem to be much in it to me.

Still, I'll be interested to read the reviews when it's released.

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pgarth wrote:

In Australia, I can buy the old 10-24mmF4 R IOS for $1111. The new XF10-24mmF4 R OIS WR can be pre ordered for $1599, an extra $488 or 44% more. Just about every review I have read of the old 10-24mm IOS R have all drawn attention to the fact this lens doesn't have weather resistance, no marked aperture scale on the aperture ring, and no lock the to stop accidentally changing the selected f stop. It also give 1 stop better IOS.

As I have never used the old lens, I would be interested to know if you believe the $488 premium to be worth it in the long run?

I think the increased features worth, but prob not pre-order price. Wait for half a year or so for the next flash sale / Fuji rebate.

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