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EOS M50 Service Refresh Program

Started Oct 14, 2020 | Polls
RLight Senior Member • Posts: 4,416
EOS M50 Service Refresh Program
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The cat is out of the bag; the EOS M50 Mark II is an EOS M50 with updated AF and streaming firmware.

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Rather than grumble about having to pay to get software, I have a novel idea: The EOS M50 (KISS M) is one the best selling cameras of all time, as I say in real life, every situation is unique and deserves a unique answer, life it not one size fits all. I doubt Canon will release a firmware upgrade for existing EOS M50 owners btw...

.

I propose Canon introduce a EOS M50 (KISS M) refresh / trade-in program. For a fee, which I'm putting up for vote, you get the following...

.

Firmware upgrade enabling M50 II performance and features

.

New Battery (because batteries are a consumable; after 2 years of use or even storage, they've bled both their peak capability and total number of cycles); this will help the, shall we say, needs improvement battery life of the M50.

.

Service cleaning (sensor, EVF and exterior casing)

.

(Optional): Refurbished EF-M 15-45 (if sent with the unit)

.

This does a couple things for existing EOS M50 owners (and there are alot of them hence why I'm proposing it as this is a unique corner case worth discussing)...

1. Gives a fiscally conservative path to upgrade for existing owners

2. Eco-friendly solution rather than "trashing" the former camera, cables, chargers and packaging for yet another one

3. Addresses pesky dust and spots that accumulate on the sensor (as the M does not share the R's sensor guard)

4. Addresses diminished battery life over long use of the unit, like the iPhone battery replacement program

5. (Optional) A "refurbished" replacement of the 15-45 lens with one that's guaranteed to meet centering standards. Folks around here know copy variance on that lens in particular, and again it's widely owned, is a big deal. How much would you pay to guarantee you get a "sharp" copy of this lens?

.

This does a couple things for Canon...

1. Software is free, and process can be largely streamlined reducing labor making this a high-margin venture, and again, there's a large audience for this service making it worth consideration.

2. Batteries are cheap "at cost". They are traditionally high margin items, think 70-90% margin where a $30 battery costs Canon less than $5 to produce.

3. The EF-M 15-45 is also a "cheap" lens to produce. To cherry pick them, which they probably have a QC department and set aside the better ones, could be pretty easily implemented as an added step to the QC process for use here.

4. It's a more eco-friendly solution than the traditional box-buy approach.

.

Thoughts? Putting up for vote...

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Yes, I'm in, for $100 body only or (optional) $150 with 15-45 lens
33.3% 9  votes
Yes, I'm in, for $50 body only or (optional) $100 with 15-45 lens
29.6% 8  votes
No, terrible idea, for whatever reason (feel free to comment)
37.0% 10  votes
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Craig Smith Contributing Member • Posts: 500
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program
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Fuji gives out feature updates via firmware for free.

Canon could do the same as a "Thank You" to all the loyal M50 customers.

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OP RLight Senior Member • Posts: 4,416
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program

Craig Smith wrote:

Fuji gives out feature updates via firmware for free.

Canon could do the same as a "Thank You" to all the loyal M50 customers.

That should be option 0, except to put bluntly, Canon ain't gonna do that, they've wouldn't have gone to the hassle of an EOS M50 Mark II if they had any intent of making that an option.

I (very) sincerely share you sentiment. I'll leave it at that.

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This poll is:

A. Entertainment and food for thought

B. Dead Serious (hint hint, Canon execs, DPR forums are Google Crawled)

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If we got say 500 (or more) responses to this poll, Canon may take notice. It's akin to a virtual recall.

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Sittatunga Veteran Member • Posts: 5,406
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program

RLight wrote:

The cat is out of the bag; the EOS M50 Mark II is an EOS M50 with updated AF and streaming firmware.

.

Rather than grumble about having to pay to get software, I have a novel idea: The EOS M50 (KISS M) is one the best selling cameras of all time, as I say in real life, every situation is unique and deserves a unique answer, life it not one size fits all. I doubt Canon will release a firmware upgrade for existing EOS M50 owners btw...

Are you talking about something like this perhaps?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dpreview.com/news/2162791126/ricoh-will-let-pentax-k-1-owners-update-their-cameras-to-a-mark-ii-for-550.amp

Only $550/£450/€500...

Thoughts? Putting up for vote...

OP RLight Senior Member • Posts: 4,416
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program

Sittatunga wrote:

RLight wrote:

The cat is out of the bag; the EOS M50 Mark II is an EOS M50 with updated AF and streaming firmware.

.

Rather than grumble about having to pay to get software, I have a novel idea: The EOS M50 (KISS M) is one the best selling cameras of all time, as I say in real life, every situation is unique and deserves a unique answer, life it not one size fits all. I doubt Canon will release a firmware upgrade for existing EOS M50 owners btw...

Are you talking about something like this perhaps?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dpreview.com/news/2162791126/ricoh-will-let-pentax-k-1-owners-update-their-cameras-to-a-mark-ii-for-550.amp

Only $550/£450/€500...

Thoughts? Putting up for vote...

Actually more like this...

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/self-help-center/canon-maintenance-service

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The 7-point service runs $49 and the 18-point service runs $129; both do a firmware upgrade.

I'm proposing they include the EOS M50 Mark II firmware, for the service, and possibly throw in a spare battery as between the cleaning, upgrade and battery, it's a "new" camera. And they already do this I might add.

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This is not, far fetched, and hence please vote.

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Sittatunga Veteran Member • Posts: 5,406
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program

RLight wrote:

Sittatunga wrote:

RLight wrote:

The cat is out of the bag; the EOS M50 Mark II is an EOS M50 with updated AF and streaming firmware.

.

Rather than grumble about having to pay to get software, I have a novel idea: The EOS M50 (KISS M) is one the best selling cameras of all time, as I say in real life, every situation is unique and deserves a unique answer, life it not one size fits all. I doubt Canon will release a firmware upgrade for existing EOS M50 owners btw...

Are you talking about something like this perhaps?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dpreview.com/news/2162791126/ricoh-will-let-pentax-k-1-owners-update-their-cameras-to-a-mark-ii-for-550.amp

Only $550/£450/€500...

Thoughts? Putting up for vote...

Actually more like this...

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/self-help-center/canon-maintenance-service

.

The 7-point service runs $49 and the 18-point service runs $129; both do a firmware upgrade.

I'm proposing they include the EOS M50 Mark II firmware, for the service, and possibly throw in a spare battery as between the cleaning, upgrade and battery, it's a "new" camera. And they already do this I might add.

.

This is not, far fetched, and hence please vote.

Canon don't service EOS M cameras here (just a sensor clean for £40, or £50 for FF cameras); the basic service charge for an EOS R is £100, which includes cleaning, checking and a firmware upgrade but there's no mention of a new battery.

OP RLight Senior Member • Posts: 4,416
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program

Sittatunga wrote:

RLight wrote:

Sittatunga wrote:

RLight wrote:

The cat is out of the bag; the EOS M50 Mark II is an EOS M50 with updated AF and streaming firmware.

.

Rather than grumble about having to pay to get software, I have a novel idea: The EOS M50 (KISS M) is one the best selling cameras of all time, as I say in real life, every situation is unique and deserves a unique answer, life it not one size fits all. I doubt Canon will release a firmware upgrade for existing EOS M50 owners btw...

Are you talking about something like this perhaps?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dpreview.com/news/2162791126/ricoh-will-let-pentax-k-1-owners-update-their-cameras-to-a-mark-ii-for-550.amp

Only $550/£450/€500...

Thoughts? Putting up for vote...

Actually more like this...

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/self-help-center/canon-maintenance-service

.

The 7-point service runs $49 and the 18-point service runs $129; both do a firmware upgrade.

I'm proposing they include the EOS M50 Mark II firmware, for the service, and possibly throw in a spare battery as between the cleaning, upgrade and battery, it's a "new" camera. And they already do this I might add.

.

This is not, far fetched, and hence please vote.

Canon don't service EOS M cameras here (just a sensor clean for £40, or £50 for FF cameras); the basic service charge for an EOS R is £100, which includes cleaning, checking and a firmware upgrade but there's no mention of a new battery.

There’s not, I’m suggesting they do a special program just for the M50 that includes a battery.

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Photato
Photato Veteran Member • Posts: 3,152
Whats wrong with just a firmware upgrade ?
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Remember that this is an “affordable” camera, so for many it wouldn’t worth the US$300 that such program could cost.

I’m not against it but if I was a M50 owner I’d rather pay but no more than $80 for just the firmware. Download, Install, ready.

Canon and others have done updates for a fee before,.

IMO they should provide the firmware upgrade for M50 owners, ideally for $50 or free since it is just a minor update.

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prospects Regular Member • Posts: 285
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program
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RLight wrote:

The cat is out of the bag; the EOS M50 Mark II is an EOS M50 with updated AF and streaming firmware.

.

Rather than grumble about having to pay to get software, I have a novel idea: The EOS M50 (KISS M) is one the best selling cameras of all time, as I say in real life, every situation is unique and deserves a unique answer, life it not one size fits all. I doubt Canon will release a firmware upgrade for existing EOS M50 owners btw...

.

I propose Canon introduce a EOS M50 (KISS M) refresh / trade-in program. For a fee, which I'm putting up for vote, you get the following...

.

Firmware upgrade enabling M50 II performance and features

.

New Battery (because batteries are a consumable; after 2 years of use or even storage, they've bled both their peak capability and total number of cycles); this will help the, shall we say, needs improvement battery life of the M50.

.

Service cleaning (sensor, EVF and exterior casing)

.

(Optional): Refurbished EF-M 15-45 (if sent with the unit)

.

This does a couple things for existing EOS M50 owners (and there are alot of them hence why I'm proposing it as this is a unique corner case worth discussing)...

1. Gives a fiscally conservative path to upgrade for existing owners

2. Eco-friendly solution rather than "trashing" the former camera, cables, chargers and packaging for yet another one

3. Addresses pesky dust and spots that accumulate on the sensor (as the M does not share the R's sensor guard)

4. Addresses diminished battery life over long use of the unit, like the iPhone battery replacement program

5. (Optional) A "refurbished" replacement of the 15-45 lens with one that's guaranteed to meet centering standards. Folks around here know copy variance on that lens in particular, and again it's widely owned, is a big deal. How much would you pay to guarantee you get a "sharp" copy of this lens?

.

This does a couple things for Canon...

1. Software is free, and process can be largely streamlined reducing labor making this a high-margin venture, and again, there's a large audience for this service making it worth consideration.

2. Batteries are cheap "at cost". They are traditionally high margin items, think 70-90% margin where a $30 battery costs Canon less than $5 to produce.

3. The EF-M 15-45 is also a "cheap" lens to produce. To cherry pick them, which they probably have a QC department and set aside the better ones, could be pretty easily implemented as an added step to the QC process for use here.

4. It's a more eco-friendly solution than the traditional box-buy approach.

.

Thoughts? Putting up for vote...

While it’s a neat idea, it would probably never ever happen.

Considering the manpower needs for these, I doubt it’ll cost only US$50-100. How would this be streamlined to reduce labour and time considering the ship in-service-ship out process?

It’s easier to make a new camera in bulk rather than opening up existing cameras for a service in bulk. One occurs in a factory sequence, while another is fully manual by a technician.

Jotoco Regular Member • Posts: 233
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program

prospects wrote:

RLight wrote:

The cat is out of the bag; the EOS M50 Mark II is an EOS M50 with updated AF and streaming firmware.

.

Rather than grumble about having to pay to get software, I have a novel idea: The EOS M50 (KISS M) is one the best selling cameras of all time, as I say in real life, every situation is unique and deserves a unique answer, life it not one size fits all. I doubt Canon will release a firmware upgrade for existing EOS M50 owners btw...

.

I propose Canon introduce a EOS M50 (KISS M) refresh / trade-in program. For a fee, which I'm putting up for vote, you get the following...

.

Firmware upgrade enabling M50 II performance and features

.

New Battery (because batteries are a consumable; after 2 years of use or even storage, they've bled both their peak capability and total number of cycles); this will help the, shall we say, needs improvement battery life of the M50.

.

Service cleaning (sensor, EVF and exterior casing)

.

(Optional): Refurbished EF-M 15-45 (if sent with the unit)

.

This does a couple things for existing EOS M50 owners (and there are alot of them hence why I'm proposing it as this is a unique corner case worth discussing)...

1. Gives a fiscally conservative path to upgrade for existing owners

2. Eco-friendly solution rather than "trashing" the former camera, cables, chargers and packaging for yet another one

3. Addresses pesky dust and spots that accumulate on the sensor (as the M does not share the R's sensor guard)

4. Addresses diminished battery life over long use of the unit, like the iPhone battery replacement program

5. (Optional) A "refurbished" replacement of the 15-45 lens with one that's guaranteed to meet centering standards. Folks around here know copy variance on that lens in particular, and again it's widely owned, is a big deal. How much would you pay to guarantee you get a "sharp" copy of this lens?

.

This does a couple things for Canon...

1. Software is free, and process can be largely streamlined reducing labor making this a high-margin venture, and again, there's a large audience for this service making it worth consideration.

2. Batteries are cheap "at cost". They are traditionally high margin items, think 70-90% margin where a $30 battery costs Canon less than $5 to produce.

3. The EF-M 15-45 is also a "cheap" lens to produce. To cherry pick them, which they probably have a QC department and set aside the better ones, could be pretty easily implemented as an added step to the QC process for use here.

4. It's a more eco-friendly solution than the traditional box-buy approach.

.

Thoughts? Putting up for vote...

While it’s a neat idea, it would probably never ever happen.

Considering the manpower needs for these, I doubt it’ll cost only US$50-100. How would this be streamlined to reduce labour and time considering the ship in-service-ship out process?

It’s easier to make a new camera in bulk rather than opening up existing cameras for a service in bulk. One occurs in a factory sequence, while another is fully manual by a technician.

Canon will never do this, but this does not need to open the camera in any way.

Each technician would have a SD card with the firmware file and grab the camera, pop it in, go through menu and hit update. This would take less than 1 minute for each camera. I bet I could do this for a 100 cameras an hour with about 10 SD cards.

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Jotoco Regular Member • Posts: 233
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program
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If this was an option o would want just the firmware, none of the other crap.

And I would pay exactly zero dollars to trade in my kit lens for another kit lens that might be slightly better. I don't use often.

My camera has over 30k shutters and less than 50 of those were with the kit lens.

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prospects Regular Member • Posts: 285
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program

Jotoco wrote:

prospects wrote:

RLight wrote:

The cat is out of the bag; the EOS M50 Mark II is an EOS M50 with updated AF and streaming firmware.

.

Rather than grumble about having to pay to get software, I have a novel idea: The EOS M50 (KISS M) is one the best selling cameras of all time, as I say in real life, every situation is unique and deserves a unique answer, life it not one size fits all. I doubt Canon will release a firmware upgrade for existing EOS M50 owners btw...

.

I propose Canon introduce a EOS M50 (KISS M) refresh / trade-in program. For a fee, which I'm putting up for vote, you get the following...

.

Firmware upgrade enabling M50 II performance and features

.

New Battery (because batteries are a consumable; after 2 years of use or even storage, they've bled both their peak capability and total number of cycles); this will help the, shall we say, needs improvement battery life of the M50.

.

Service cleaning (sensor, EVF and exterior casing)

.

(Optional): Refurbished EF-M 15-45 (if sent with the unit)

.

This does a couple things for existing EOS M50 owners (and there are alot of them hence why I'm proposing it as this is a unique corner case worth discussing)...

1. Gives a fiscally conservative path to upgrade for existing owners

2. Eco-friendly solution rather than "trashing" the former camera, cables, chargers and packaging for yet another one

3. Addresses pesky dust and spots that accumulate on the sensor (as the M does not share the R's sensor guard)

4. Addresses diminished battery life over long use of the unit, like the iPhone battery replacement program

5. (Optional) A "refurbished" replacement of the 15-45 lens with one that's guaranteed to meet centering standards. Folks around here know copy variance on that lens in particular, and again it's widely owned, is a big deal. How much would you pay to guarantee you get a "sharp" copy of this lens?

.

This does a couple things for Canon...

1. Software is free, and process can be largely streamlined reducing labor making this a high-margin venture, and again, there's a large audience for this service making it worth consideration.

2. Batteries are cheap "at cost". They are traditionally high margin items, think 70-90% margin where a $30 battery costs Canon less than $5 to produce.

3. The EF-M 15-45 is also a "cheap" lens to produce. To cherry pick them, which they probably have a QC department and set aside the better ones, could be pretty easily implemented as an added step to the QC process for use here.

4. It's a more eco-friendly solution than the traditional box-buy approach.

.

Thoughts? Putting up for vote...

While it’s a neat idea, it would probably never ever happen.

Considering the manpower needs for these, I doubt it’ll cost only US$50-100. How would this be streamlined to reduce labour and time considering the ship in-service-ship out process?

It’s easier to make a new camera in bulk rather than opening up existing cameras for a service in bulk. One occurs in a factory sequence, while another is fully manual by a technician.

Canon will never do this, but this does not need to open the camera in any way.

Each technician would have a SD card with the firmware file and grab the camera, pop it in, go through menu and hit update. This would take less than 1 minute for each camera. I bet I could do this for a 100 cameras an hour with about 10 SD cards.

Wasn’t OP’s idea was to bundle a servicing of the M50 parts and sensors + new batteries + firmware update?
Pretty sure it’ll be required to open the camera.

What you’re referring to is just a firmware update, which Canon would never do because there’s already a Mark II anyway.

trungtran Senior Member • Posts: 1,747
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program
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Just wait for a firmware update for the mark2 and try and load it on the M50

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Jotoco Regular Member • Posts: 233
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program

prospects wrote:

Jotoco wrote:

prospects wrote:

RLight wrote:

The cat is out of the bag; the EOS M50 Mark II is an EOS M50 with updated AF and streaming firmware.

.

Rather than grumble about having to pay to get software, I have a novel idea: The EOS M50 (KISS M) is one the best selling cameras of all time, as I say in real life, every situation is unique and deserves a unique answer, life it not one size fits all. I doubt Canon will release a firmware upgrade for existing EOS M50 owners btw...

.

I propose Canon introduce a EOS M50 (KISS M) refresh / trade-in program. For a fee, which I'm putting up for vote, you get the following...

.

Firmware upgrade enabling M50 II performance and features

.

New Battery (because batteries are a consumable; after 2 years of use or even storage, they've bled both their peak capability and total number of cycles); this will help the, shall we say, needs improvement battery life of the M50.

.

Service cleaning (sensor, EVF and exterior casing)

.

(Optional): Refurbished EF-M 15-45 (if sent with the unit)

.

This does a couple things for existing EOS M50 owners (and there are alot of them hence why I'm proposing it as this is a unique corner case worth discussing)...

1. Gives a fiscally conservative path to upgrade for existing owners

2. Eco-friendly solution rather than "trashing" the former camera, cables, chargers and packaging for yet another one

3. Addresses pesky dust and spots that accumulate on the sensor (as the M does not share the R's sensor guard)

4. Addresses diminished battery life over long use of the unit, like the iPhone battery replacement program

5. (Optional) A "refurbished" replacement of the 15-45 lens with one that's guaranteed to meet centering standards. Folks around here know copy variance on that lens in particular, and again it's widely owned, is a big deal. How much would you pay to guarantee you get a "sharp" copy of this lens?

.

This does a couple things for Canon...

1. Software is free, and process can be largely streamlined reducing labor making this a high-margin venture, and again, there's a large audience for this service making it worth consideration.

2. Batteries are cheap "at cost". They are traditionally high margin items, think 70-90% margin where a $30 battery costs Canon less than $5 to produce.

3. The EF-M 15-45 is also a "cheap" lens to produce. To cherry pick them, which they probably have a QC department and set aside the better ones, could be pretty easily implemented as an added step to the QC process for use here.

4. It's a more eco-friendly solution than the traditional box-buy approach.

.

Thoughts? Putting up for vote...

While it’s a neat idea, it would probably never ever happen.

Considering the manpower needs for these, I doubt it’ll cost only US$50-100. How would this be streamlined to reduce labour and time considering the ship in-service-ship out process?

It’s easier to make a new camera in bulk rather than opening up existing cameras for a service in bulk. One occurs in a factory sequence, while another is fully manual by a technician.

Canon will never do this, but this does not need to open the camera in any way.

Each technician would have a SD card with the firmware file and grab the camera, pop it in, go through menu and hit update. This would take less than 1 minute for each camera. I bet I could do this for a 100 cameras an hour with about 10 SD cards.

Wasn’t OP’s idea was to bundle a servicing of the M50 parts and sensors + new batteries + firmware update?
Pretty sure it’ll be required to open the camera.

What you’re referring to is just a firmware update, which Canon would never do because there’s already a Mark II anyway.

And that would be terribly inefficient. And linking services like this would be illegal in some countries. Here in Brazil I am sure it is.

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OP RLight Senior Member • Posts: 4,416
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program
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trungtran wrote:

Just wait for a firmware update for the mark2 and try and load it on the M50

Oh that's an easy one to defeat; code signing. Poof, you're not going to win that. And it's easy to implement these days too for the mfgr but impossible for us mere mortals (or anyone else) to defeat.

They don't even need to go that far though, there's probably an internal check for the model number applicability ie serial-prefix or model number match that will "lock out" M50 owners.

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Eddie Rizk Senior Member • Posts: 1,224
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program

RLight wrote:

trungtran wrote:

Just wait for a firmware update for the mark2 and try and load it on the M50

Oh that's an easy one to defeat; code signing. Poof, you're not going to win that. And it's easy to implement these days too for the mfgr but impossible for us mere mortals (or anyone else) to defeat.

They don't even need to go that far though, there's probably an internal check for the model number applicability ie serial-prefix or model number match that will "lock out" M50 owners.

Aren't they using a newer processor, anyway?  I don't know that the software for the Digix 8 would work on the Digix 7 even with no protection.

Also, are we all dismissing any new functionality the Digix 8 could bring to the party?

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trungtran Senior Member • Posts: 1,747
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program
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Eddie Rizk wrote:

RLight wrote:

trungtran wrote:

Just wait for a firmware update for the mark2 and try and load it on the M50

Oh that's an easy one to defeat; code signing. Poof, you're not going to win that. And it's easy to implement these days too for the mfgr but impossible for us mere mortals (or anyone else) to defeat.

They don't even need to go that far though, there's probably an internal check for the model number applicability ie serial-prefix or model number match that will "lock out" M50 owners.

Aren't they using a newer processor, anyway? I don't know that the software for the Digix 8 would work on the Digix 7 even with no protection.

Also, are we all dismissing any new functionality the Digix 8 could bring to the party?

Unless they decided to use the same name for the processor. The Digic 8 was on the M50

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/cameras/eos-dslr-and-mirrorless-cameras/mirrorless/eos-m50-ef-m-15-45mm-is-stm-kit

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nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,074
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program

Eddie Rizk wrote:

RLight wrote:

trungtran wrote:

Just wait for a firmware update for the mark2 and try and load it on the M50

Oh that's an easy one to defeat; code signing. Poof, you're not going to win that. And it's easy to implement these days too for the mfgr but impossible for us mere mortals (or anyone else) to defeat.

They don't even need to go that far though, there's probably an internal check for the model number applicability ie serial-prefix or model number match that will "lock out" M50 owners.

Aren't they using a newer processor, anyway?

No, the same processor.

I don't know that the software for the Digix 8 would work on the Digix 7 even with no protection.

The original M50 was also DIGIC 8.  The older M5 and M6 were DIGIC 7.

Also, are we all dismissing any new functionality the Digix 8 could bring to the party?

Eddie Rizk Senior Member • Posts: 1,224
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program

nnowak wrote:

Eddie Rizk wrote:

RLight wrote:

trungtran wrote:

Just wait for a firmware update for the mark2 and try and load it on the M50

Oh that's an easy one to defeat; code signing. Poof, you're not going to win that. And it's easy to implement these days too for the mfgr but impossible for us mere mortals (or anyone else) to defeat.

They don't even need to go that far though, there's probably an internal check for the model number applicability ie serial-prefix or model number match that will "lock out" M50 owners.

Aren't they using a newer processor, anyway?

No, the same processor.

I don't know that the software for the Digix 8 would work on the Digix 7 even with no protection.

The original M50 was also DIGIC 8. The older M5 and M6 were DIGIC 7.

Also, are we all dismissing any new functionality the Digix 8 could bring to the party?

I stand corrected.

I misread another thread.

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nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,074
Re: EOS M50 Service Refresh Program
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Eddie Rizk wrote:

nnowak wrote:

Eddie Rizk wrote:

RLight wrote:

trungtran wrote:

Just wait for a firmware update for the mark2 and try and load it on the M50

Oh that's an easy one to defeat; code signing. Poof, you're not going to win that. And it's easy to implement these days too for the mfgr but impossible for us mere mortals (or anyone else) to defeat.

They don't even need to go that far though, there's probably an internal check for the model number applicability ie serial-prefix or model number match that will "lock out" M50 owners.

Aren't they using a newer processor, anyway?

No, the same processor.

I don't know that the software for the Digix 8 would work on the Digix 7 even with no protection.

The original M50 was also DIGIC 8. The older M5 and M6 were DIGIC 7.

Also, are we all dismissing any new functionality the Digix 8 could bring to the party?

I stand corrected.

I misread another thread.

It is understandable.  Most people were expecting the M50 II to include something else new besides a firmware update.

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