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Anyone using the G95/G90/G91?

Started Oct 14, 2020 | Discussions
Henry Richardson Forum Pro • Posts: 21,959
Anyone using the G95/G90/G91?
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In another thread someone lamented that there was no smaller version of the G9. The G95/G90/G91 is smaller/lighter and doesn't seem to give up too much. I see that at Amazon the G9 is $997.99 and the G95 + 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 is also $997.99.

I don't recall seeing any posts here from anyone using the G95/G90/G91. Just from a quick look at specs compared to the very nice G9 and fast perusal of the review here it isn't clear why no one likes it. Looks like a winner at a good price. Certainly, for people who want the largest size then the G9 is the one to get and the price is very attractive too, but the G95/G90/G91 also looks quite good and is smaller/lighter.

https://mirrorlesscomparison.com/preview/panasonic-g95-vs-g9-vs-g90/

Next time I am in Yodobashi or Bic Camera I will pick it up and take a look at it.  I haven't once looked at it.  Not sure why.  I don't need anything, but with Olympus possibly being gone and it not being clear how much more development Panasonic will do on m4/3 then the existing bodies to use with our lenses may be what we have to choose from.  Fortunately, there are lots of good ones.

Unfortunately, it is part of the typical Panasonic clown show as far as naming. Anyone else tired of many names for the same camera? My GX7II is logically named here in Japan as is the GX7III since it is clear they are successors to the GX7. GX85, GX80, GX9, GX8, etc. confuses everyone and you feel the need to specify several names in a thread so people know what you are talking about. Same thing for my TX1 (ZS100, TZ100, etc.).

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Samuel Dilworth
Samuel Dilworth Senior Member • Posts: 1,391
The 4K video has a catch
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Henry Richardson wrote:

In another thread someone lamented that there was no smaller version of the G9. The G95/G90/G91 is smaller/lighter and doesn't seem to give up too much. I see that at Amazon the G9 is $997.99 and the G95 + 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 is also $997.99.

I don't recall seeing any posts here from anyone using the G95/G90/G91. Just from a quick look at specs compared to the very nice G9 and fast perusal of the review here it isn't clear why no one likes it.

I don’t have the camera, and I can tell you why. And it’s one way it significantly differs from the G9:

The interest I would have in such a camera would be to dabble in video with a little more enthusiasm. But the G90 has a heavy crop when shooting 4K video. That is restrictive because the picture quality suffers, since frames come from a fraction of the frame area (so more noise, less dynamic range, and less detail), but also because it changes the angle of view of my lenses, breaking my already marginal wide-angle options.

You need to go to a G9 or GH5 to get rid of the 4K crop.

AlmostDoctor Senior Member • Posts: 1,257
Re: The 4K video has a catch
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Samuel Dilworth wrote:

Henry Richardson wrote:

In another thread someone lamented that there was no smaller version of the G9. The G95/G90/G91 is smaller/lighter and doesn't seem to give up too much. I see that at Amazon the G9 is $997.99 and the G95 + 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 is also $997.99.

I don't recall seeing any posts here from anyone using the G95/G90/G91. Just from a quick look at specs compared to the very nice G9 and fast perusal of the review here it isn't clear why no one likes it.

I don’t have the camera, and I can tell you why. And it’s one way it significantly differs from the G9:

The interest I would have in such a camera would be to dabble in video with a little more enthusiasm. But the G90 has a heavy crop when shooting 4K video. That is restrictive because the picture quality suffers, since frames come from a fraction of the frame area (so more noise, less dynamic range, and less detail), but also because it changes the angle of view of my lenses, breaking my already marginal wide-angle options.

You need to go to a G9 or GH5 to get rid of the 4K crop.

This is why, if you want high performance m43 body that is somewhat small, EM5III is the only real option.

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Pete_W
Pete_W Senior Member • Posts: 2,838
Re: Anyone using the G95/G90/G91?
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Yes, I've had a G95 for about 6 months. Great camera, really like using it.

I mostly shoot stills and find the output to be great. Ergonomics are really good although I would prefer a tilty screen to the FAS, but that's just a personal view.

I rarely shoot video, and when I do it's maximum 2 mins and I don't even bother with 4K so the complaints about the crop are meaningless for me.

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Trolleyman Senior Member • Posts: 1,048
Re: Anyone using the G95/G90/G91?

Had mine since January, no complaints and does all I wanted and expected.

No idea about the video aspect, but for stills its very good, would be nigh on perfect if it had a joystick. Naming structure made sense to me, I had a G80 and bought the newer model called a G90.

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OP Henry Richardson Forum Pro • Posts: 21,959
Re: The 4K video has a catch

Samuel Dilworth wrote:

I don’t have the camera, and I can tell you why. And it’s one way it significantly differs from the G9:

The interest I would have in such a camera would be to dabble in video with a little more enthusiasm. But the G90 has a heavy crop when shooting 4K video. That is restrictive because the picture quality suffers, since frames come from a fraction of the frame area (so more noise, less dynamic range, and less detail), but also because it changes the angle of view of my lenses, breaking my already marginal wide-angle options.

You need to go to a G9 or GH5 to get rid of the 4K crop.

I don't pay any attention to video specs since I don't use my cameras for making video.  People who do care though should carefully evaluate video capabilities.  For you I think you are right that the G9 or GH5 is a better choice.

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Helen
Helen Veteran Member • Posts: 7,606
Re: Anyone using the G95/G90/G91?
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Henry Richardson wrote:

Unfortunately, it is part of the typical Panasonic clown show as far as naming. Anyone else tired of many names for the same camera? My GX7II is logically named here in Japan as is the GX7III since it is clear they are successors to the GX7. GX85, GX80, GX9, GX8, etc. confuses everyone and you feel the need to specify several names in a thread so people know what you are talking about. Same thing for my TX1 (ZS100, TZ100, etc.).

You missed one name variant of the G90/91/95 - in the Japanese market, it’s the G99! Even more weirdly, the G95 and G99 have a 1.24M dot LCD monitor, whilst the G90 and G91 have a 1.04M dot OLED monitor - what’s THAT about, I wonder? Oh, and according to Panasonic’s Canadian website, although they still call it the G95 as in the US, Canada gets the G90/91 spec OLED monitor! Yet Australia gets the G95 with the LCD monitor, like the US. No wonder Panasonic only puts the model number on the adhesive serial number label these days... 

OP Henry Richardson Forum Pro • Posts: 21,959
Japan G99 body is about $1050-1100

Henry Richardson wrote:

In another thread someone lamented that there was no smaller version of the G9. The G95/G90/G91 is smaller/lighter and doesn't seem to give up too much. I see that at Amazon the G9 is $997.99 and the G95 + 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 is also $997.99.

G99 (Japan name) costs more like $1050-1100 for the body only.

I don't recall seeing any posts here from anyone using the G95/G90/G91. Just from a quick look at specs compared to the very nice G9 and fast perusal of the review here it isn't clear why no one likes it. Looks like a winner at a good price. Certainly, for people who want the largest size then the G9 is the one to get and the price is very attractive too, but the G95/G90/G91 also looks quite good and is smaller/lighter.

https://mirrorlesscomparison.com/preview/panasonic-g95-vs-g9-vs-g90/

Next time I am in Yodobashi or Bic Camera I will pick it up and take a look at it. I haven't once looked at it. Not sure why. I don't need anything, but with Olympus possibly being gone and it not being clear how much more development Panasonic will do on m4/3 then the existing bodies to use with our lenses may be what we have to choose from. Fortunately, there are lots of good ones.

Unfortunately, it is part of the typical Panasonic clown show as far as naming. Anyone else tired of many names for the same camera? My GX7II is logically named here in Japan as is the GX7III since it is clear they are successors to the GX7. GX85, GX80, GX9, GX8, etc. confuses everyone and you feel the need to specify several names in a thread so people know what you are talking about. Same thing for my TX1 (ZS100, TZ100, etc.).

I just discovered that in Japan the name is G99. Elsewhere it is G95 or G90 or G91 or ??? Total clown show.

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Jim Scarff Regular Member • Posts: 342
The Panasonic G90 has a built-in flash, the G9 does not.
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Having a flash is often very useful in still photography, including providing fill flash in difficult lighting conditions.

Per most camera makers, "professional" photographers don't want a built-in flash since they have an external flashes. But for folks traveling or doing long hikes, an external flash is just something extra to carry.

Daniel Cox, former LUMIX ambassador, was/is a big fan of the G90 because of the flash.

"About the only disappointment I had with the release of the Lumix G9 is the fact it was missing a built-in flash. I’ve heard from both Nikon and now Lumix that pros don’t want a built-in flash, and I say bunk in triplicate. Build it tough, build it stout, and I would buy a camera with one over a camera without every time."
More comments by Cox and good photos that demonstrate the value of a flash for outdoor nature photos can be seen at the following link.

G90 Review on Natural Exposures

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kalisti
kalisti Senior Member • Posts: 1,181
Re: Anyone using the G95/G90/G91?

Henry Richardson wrote:

In another thread someone lamented that there was no smaller version of the G9. The G95/G90/G91 is smaller/lighter and doesn't seem to give up too much. I see that at Amazon the G9 is $997.99 and the G95 + 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 is also $997.99.

It gives up lots tbh.

AF system, high spec video, battery life, thumb stick/fn buttons/lever, the viewfinder size, battery grip (ok you can use the g85 grip but the buttons are not the same, build quality and sealing, dual slots, theres more, that just off the top of my head.

Whether any of that is important to you is personal of course.

Having the G9 and having used the G90, I would be sad if I had to swap.

I think the G90 will come into its own when its price is a little further from the G9. As it stands, size and perhaps the flash are the only up sides, oh and unlimited video recording.

I can understand why people have gone for the G90, size is an important factor.

I was looking for something that fit in my hand like a 6D but had all the modern features and lens selection I needed. MFT and the G9 has been perfect so far, and yes I bought a flash and trigger, I wont be going back to on camera very often now.

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OP Henry Richardson Forum Pro • Posts: 21,959
Not just the name is different

Helen wrote:

Henry Richardson wrote:

Unfortunately, it is part of the typical Panasonic clown show as far as naming. Anyone else tired of many names for the same camera? My GX7II is logically named here in Japan as is the GX7III since it is clear they are successors to the GX7. GX85, GX80, GX9, GX8, etc. confuses everyone and you feel the need to specify several names in a thread so people know what you are talking about. Same thing for my TX1 (ZS100, TZ100, etc.).

You missed one name variant of the G90/91/95 - in the Japanese market, it’s the G99! Even more weirdly, the G95 and G99 have a 1.24M dot LCD monitor, whilst the G90 and G91 have a 1.04M dot OLED monitor - what’s THAT about, I wonder? Oh, and according to Panasonic’s Canadian website, although they still call it the G95 as in the US, Canada gets the G90/91 spec OLED monitor! Yet Australia gets the G95 with the LCD monitor, like the US. No wonder Panasonic only puts the model number on the adhesive serial number label these days...

I didn't realize that there were also all those strange differences. Very weird. I thought it was just the name. It makes me wonder about my GX7II and TX1 also?

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Helen
Helen Veteran Member • Posts: 7,606
Re: Not just the name is different

Henry Richardson wrote:

Helen wrote:

Henry Richardson wrote:

Unfortunately, it is part of the typical Panasonic clown show as far as naming. Anyone else tired of many names for the same camera? My GX7II is logically named here in Japan as is the GX7III since it is clear they are successors to the GX7. GX85, GX80, GX9, GX8, etc. confuses everyone and you feel the need to specify several names in a thread so people know what you are talking about. Same thing for my TX1 (ZS100, TZ100, etc.).

You missed one name variant of the G90/91/95 - in the Japanese market, it’s the G99! Even more weirdly, the G95 and G99 have a 1.24M dot LCD monitor, whilst the G90 and G91 have a 1.04M dot OLED monitor - what’s THAT about, I wonder? Oh, and according to Panasonic’s Canadian website, although they still call it the G95 as in the US, Canada gets the G90/91 spec OLED monitor! Yet Australia gets the G95 with the LCD monitor, like the US. No wonder Panasonic only puts the model number on the adhesive serial number label these days...

I didn't realize that there were also all those strange differences. Very weird. I thought it was just the name. It makes me wonder about my GX7II and TX1 also?

As far as I am aware, this is the only model where there have been differences on this scale - it’s very puzzling.

OP Henry Richardson Forum Pro • Posts: 21,959
I handled G99 today
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I was at Yodobashi today and played a bit with the G99.  Price is high here in Japan.  Much higher than in the States.  The G9 was right next to it so I had a chance to compare the size of both.  Yes, the G99 is somewhat smaller than the G9.  I have handled the G9 several times since it first came out so nothing new for me.

I don't need any new cameras now.  In m4/3 I have 4 Olympus bodies and 2 Panasonic bodies plus a few other non-m4/3 cameras.  But it is good to check out what else is available that can use my lenses.  Someday I might need or want a new body.  At the price of the G99 in Japan though I doubt I would get one.

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