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mi10t Pro, uses samsung bright s5khmx 108mp sensor, 4.3/5 GSMarena

Started Oct 12, 2020 | Discussions
DigiPainter Regular Member • Posts: 301
mi10t Pro, uses samsung bright s5khmx 108mp sensor, 4.3/5 GSMarena

So the Mi10t Pro has been reviewed.

It uses a lightning quick 144mhz LCD. Of course the contrast is not quite as good as OLED but its very good for an LCD, I thought the X3 LCD was awesome, and of course LCD's display higher sharpness, ie fonts look more detailed.

What I like is that the main camera is flappn awesome and it is another 5mp Macro that does a good job. I hope OEMs keep putting out good Macro lenses.

With Xiaomi seeming to favour the Samsung sensors, Sony is in for a battle with the IMX line. Still the IMX700 used in the P40 Pro is simply amazing and as close to Sony 1" sensor as we have gotten so far.
3 Recent mi 10's compared, reviews for each.

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10437&idPhone2=10082&idPhone3=10361

Droo Regular Member • Posts: 277
Re: mi10t Pro, uses samsung bright s5khmx 108mp sensor, 4.3/5 GSMarena

Any info on whether you can get 108 MP raw photos or is it 27 MP only? The Mi 10 Pro only produces 27 MP raw and 108 MP JPG photos if I understand it correctly.

I like the 108 MP JPGs here, even though GSMArena trashes them (as they normally do with high resolution photos). Lots of potential if you can get raw photos.

OP DigiPainter Regular Member • Posts: 301
Re: mi10t Pro, uses samsung bright s5khmx 108mp sensor, 4.3/5 GSMarena

My understanding, like most of these quad bayer type cameras is that it is only jpg you can use the 108mp, but the consensus is the 4x0.8um pixel size, is a far more pleasing output. 
I would like the p40 pro's 10x optical zoom, it could replace my rx100. but with no playstore makes it a bit gimped. Such a shame, imx700 and Leica lenses and good software. Speaking of which it was my understanding that it was the 5g huawei routers that had a security concern, not the phone devices?

Droo Regular Member • Posts: 277
Re: mi10t Pro, uses samsung bright s5khmx 108mp sensor, 4.3/5 GSMarena

It varies. The P40 Pro gets full resolution off the main camera, but only binned of the ultra wide one. The Xiaomi's apparently can get full resolution JPGs, but not RAW.

1.6 um seems to be a good size for pixels. Coincidientally, this is where I end up scaling the 50 MP RAW photos (1.22 um unbinned) to (30 MP).

OP DigiPainter Regular Member • Posts: 301
Re: mi10t Pro, uses samsung bright s5khmx 108mp sensor, 4.3/5 GSMarena

Droo wrote:

It varies. The P40 Pro gets full resolution off the main camera, but only binned of the ultra wide one. The Xiaomi's apparently can get full resolution JPGs, but not RAW.

1.6 um seems to be a good size for pixels. Coincidientally, this is where I end up scaling the 50 MP RAW photos (1.22 um unbinned) to (30 MP).

Xiaomi use the Samsung s20+ sensor, the 108mp Bright S5 line, they just do a better job than Samsung with it. Sensor size 1/1.33", pixel size 0.8 um but quad bayer so 3.2um. So big sensor and big pixels = LOTS of light, which in turn means good IQ.
The P40 Pro turns the notch up slightly further, it uses the Sony IMX700, which is a 1/1.22" sensor, as you said 1.22um x 4
What is impressive about the P40 Pro is the 10x Optical Zoom with OIS. That is ground breaking.
Huawei are using all the point and shoot camera tricks, quad bayer sensors, RGGB to RGB, Leica lenses is the premium delineation over other Phones.
Is no wonder they were #2 brand globally in q1 and 2 2019. Then they were lamed by the banning of playstore on them, which I do not get as I believe the security concern was with the mobile internetworking devices not the phones. Even so, they were dead set equal with samsung last quarter at 20% share. What has been the big mover is Xiaomi and downward Apple (I think this models pricing, especially the 5.4"mini will lift sales). Sam 20%, Hua 20%, Apple 14%, Xiaomi 10%. Oppo 9%........
https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-share/

And we are nearly at the holly grail in phone photography that is a 1" sensor, like the RX100 camera has been using for a decade. I think within 3 years we will be there
And if we are getting 10x optical zoom phones, well that could be the nail in the coffin for point and shoot cameras.
Although I think it would be odd to see Sony shoot itself in the foot with mobile sensors while still being the biggest game in camera sensors. Perhaps they too think mobile phones, being on you all the time, is the future of point and shoot photography......

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