how to read serial no.

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cx5bc Forum Member • Posts: 58
how to read serial no.

Hi, just wondering if someone can share how to read the serial no. Of. Em5.3 and 12-100?

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Brian Wadie
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one - locate serial number

two - read

If unable to see serial number on camera body, locate the box it came in

repeat one and two above

if this also fails note:

"it's also embedded in the EXIF data of every photo you have ever taken with it"

from an earlier post on the same subject

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OP cx5bc Forum Member • Posts: 58
Re: how to read serial no.

Hi,

Thanks. I can read the serial no. But want to find out when they were made and how many unit.

Guy Parsons
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cx5bc wrote:

Hi, just wondering if someone can share how to read the serial no. Of. Em5.3 and 12-100?

Some helpful clues at http://www.biofos.com/cornucop/hidden.html in Section 2 down towards the bottom of the page. Look for details about the MCS item which is found on page 3 of the camera service information and tells of the date of the motherboard. The CS item should be the camera's serial number that is on the outside of the camera.

As for the lens, I have no idea. I only know of the serial number laser engraved on or near the mount.

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cx5bc wrote:

Hi,

Thanks. I can read the serial no. But want to find out when they were made and how many unit.

sorry, this was not clear in your first post

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OP cx5bc Forum Member • Posts: 58
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Hi,

Thanks for the replies.

My last five digit is 10260. So I cannot figure out the year and month. If someone can help, please let me know.

JDLaing50 Senior Member • Posts: 2,279
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Brian Wadie wrote:

one - locate serial number

Making sure that it is right side up and read left to right.

two - read

If unable to see serial number on camera body, locate the box it came in

repeat one and two above

if this also fails note:

"it's also embedded in the EXIF data of every photo you have ever taken with it"

from an earlier post on the same subject

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cx5bc wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for the replies.

My last five digit is 10260. So I cannot figure out the year and month. If someone can help, please let me know.

The camera serial number tells you nothing as far as I know, the internal service menu will display the MCS number on its page 3 and the last 3 digits of that MCS number decode to year and month.

Just checked my E-M10 Mk2 and its MCS number ends in 001 so to my understanding that means 2010 or 2020 from the first "0" and the last two digits "01" are January. That model was released in 2015 so that means my motherboard is dated as January 2020. Which is quite odd as I bought it in early December of 2019.

So from my little experiment, I'm not sure what you would really learn from finding the date. Plus if the camera had had some repair that involved swapping out the motherboard then the date will be of the motherboard and not the camera.

The question is, why are you trying to learn the date of your camera?

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Another thought, look at the date printed on the battery that came with your camera (assuming it was bought new) the battery date may give a better clue as to approximately when the camera was assembled.

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Guy Parsons wrote:

Another thought, look at the date printed on the battery that came with your camera (assuming it was bought new) the battery date may give a better clue as to approximately when the camera was assembled.

That does not work.  Both my Oly cameras came with batteries made up to 2 years before the cameras first release date.

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Guy Parsons wrote:

The question is, why are you trying to learn the date of your camera?

One reason is when you try buying used. Especially lenses that were released more than 10 years ago, but are still sold. You could buy a lens that is only one year old, or one that is 11 years old, and that may influence how much you are willing to pay for it.

An older lens, even if looking pristine, may be more likely to suffer from problems like contact oxydation, broken ribbon cables or thickened oil/grease. It is also not unlikely that over the years some internal improvements or modifications were introduced.

With Panasonic, the serial number tells the manufacturing date. Not so with Olympus.

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cba_melbourne wrote:

Guy Parsons wrote:

Another thought, look at the date printed on the battery that came with your camera (assuming it was bought new) the battery date may give a better clue as to approximately when the camera was assembled.

That does not work. Both my Oly cameras came with batteries made up to 2 years before the cameras first release date.

Ditto it seems for mine, so if that is a definite year difference, then it is easy to take an approximate stab at when the camera was probably made, as it seems that the internal MCS number could be a bit of fiction.

As for me, I could not care less when the camera was born. All I want to know is when the camera will die.

I suppose a project for me could be to look at all my Pens and get the motherboard MCS dates, and compare that to their original battery dates and to the dates when I bought the camera. I guess all I might find is that cameras are often quite old by the time I buy them.

I date my batteries when I buy them and just about always the printed date is around 2 years earlier.

My OEM BLN-1 collection for my pair of E-P5.

That lot decodes for me that I bought the black E-P5 in September 2014, the two spare batteries in October 2014 and then the silver E-P5 in April 2015.

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cba_melbourne wrote:

Guy Parsons wrote:

The question is, why are you trying to learn the date of your camera?

One reason is when you try buying used. Especially lenses that were released more than 10 years ago, but are still sold. You could buy a lens that is only one year old, or one that is 11 years old, and that may influence how much you are willing to pay for it.

Yup, fair enough. The OP is talking E-M5 Mk3 and 12-100mm so I naively assumed it was a new purchase as being most likely.

With Panasonic, the serial number tells the manufacturing date.

Yes, that's nice.

Not so with Olympus.

Olympus does not like to tell us dates. They are probably even horrified that the way to get into the service menu escaped into the wild. Nobody gets their service manuals it seems.

Whereas if you can find a service manual for a Panasonic camera it tells their method. Once earlier with Panasonic Australia web site they actually gave (accidentally) the link to the service manual for one of their M4/3 cameras at release, it disappeared soon after.

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Guy Parsons wrote:

cba_melbourne wrote:

Guy Parsons wrote:

Another thought, look at the date printed on the battery that came with your camera (assuming it was bought new) the battery date may give a better clue as to approximately when the camera was assembled.

That does not work. Both my Oly cameras came with batteries made up to 2 years before the cameras first release date.

Ditto it seems for mine, so if that is a definite year difference, then it is easy to take an approximate stab at when the camera was probably made, as it seems that the internal MCS number could be a bit of fiction.

As for me, I could not care less when the camera was born. All I want to know is when the camera will die.

I suppose a project for me could be to look at all my Pens and get the motherboard MCS dates, and compare that to their original battery dates and to the dates when I bought the camera. I guess all I might find is that cameras are often quite old by the time I buy them.

I date my batteries when I buy them and just about always the printed date is around 2 years earlier.

My OEM BLN-1 collection for my pair of E-P5.

That lot decodes for me that I bought the black E-P5 in September 2014, the two spare batteries in October 2014 and then the silver E-P5 in April 2015.

The relatively old battery dates that come in new cameras makes me believe, that Olympus has batteries made in very large batches, possibly as far as 2 years apart.

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Guy Parsons wrote:

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Olympus does not like to tell us dates. They are probably even horrified that the way to get into the service menu escaped into the wild. Nobody gets their service manuals it seems.

If have never seen one (except for old vintage cameras). I suspect they only exist as electronic copies, only accessible online on their internal network. Password protected and with strict confidentiality clauses for the technicians.

Whereas if you can find a service manual for a Panasonic camera it tells their method. Once earlier with Panasonic Australia web site they actually gave (accidentally) the link to the service manual for one of their M4/3 cameras at release, it disappeared soon after.

For those of us that keep their cameras/lenses "for life", and possibly do their own small repairs, the availability of service manuals is an important advantage for Panasonic when choosing a new camera/lens.

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OP cx5bc Forum Member • Posts: 58
Re: Dating the camera

Hi Thanks all again.

No reason why, just wondering if when it was made. Thank you.

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