Pany G9 vs Oly EM1 Mk III: which all round camera advice?

averacpa wrote:

Given the greatly discounted price on both G9 and the Mk III, for those who have used both cameras, which of the two is a better overall camera when considering video shooting might be 50%?

In terms of the video, the fact that the G9 can shoot 60fps in 4K is a distinct advantage; it gives you the option of creating high quality slow motion in the rendered video. I also like the IS Lock feature which produces freakishly stable video when you don't need to pan your shot (ie: it's more stable than regular IS that works ok with panning).

Dpreview did a comparison video of the EM1.3 and G9 that might help you decide. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB71SN-r25k&ab_channel=DPReview

larsbc wrote:

averacpa wrote:

Given the greatly discounted price on both G9 and the Mk III, for those who have used both cameras, which of the two is a better overall camera when considering video shooting might be 50%?

In terms of the video, the fact that the G9 can shoot 60fps in 4K is a distinct advantage; it gives you the option of creating high quality slow motion in the rendered video. I also like the IS Lock feature which produces freakishly stable video when you don't need to pan your shot (ie: it's more stable than regular IS that works ok with panning).

Dpreview did a comparison video of the EM1.3 and G9 that might help you decide. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB71SN-r25k&ab_channel=DPReview

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I've been impressed with C-AF in the G9 with both the P-L 12-35/2.8 v!, and more recently the Oly 12-100/4.0 Pro. Unfortunately G9's phenomenal Video IS-lock doesn't function with the Oly, but it does with my smart adapted Canon 100-400-II when IBIS is used and OIS switch off on lens at startup. Go figure!

And the G9's low light performance is flat amazing in both stills and video. Below is link to short 4K60p video in my studio with very dimmed lighting - corners barely visible to naked eye - ISO 10,000, 12-35@ 35mm, f/2.8, 1/30 sec, demonstrating C-AF that for the most part is accurate with minimal pulsation in a range of 2-20'. Also absent is any trace of macro-blocking in shadows, with a fine-grain pattern, and the ability to produce a true photographic black of (R,G,B 0,0,0) in captured frames - thus excellent colors for the situation, as well as very good detail. At least 1 EV improvement over GH5 in IQ...

https://vimeo.com/292529325

Thanks for the replies.

So with the listed Oly lenses that I have, what kind of performance deterioration would I expect?  Is it only toward stabilization when shooting video, or will image stabilization be negatively impacted?

Also, for video shooting, what kind of lenses are typically recommended for a family setting?  I want to enjoy my granddaughter and be able to capture both still and video.

Andrew

averacpa wrote:

Also, for video shooting, what kind of lenses are typically recommended for a family setting? I want to enjoy my granddaughter and be able to capture both still and video.

I've had the 12-35/2.8 forever so I can't compare it to the 12-60/2.8-4.  I find the 12-35 to work well indoors in most rooms where there are multiple pot lights in the ceiling (ie: not great for living rooms lit with, say, a couple of standing corner lamps).  In poorer light I'll use my 15/1.7 which is wide enough and fast enough for most indoor situations.

Just remember to use 24 or 30 fps when shooting in low light.

Pete Berry wrote:

larsbc wrote:

I've been impressed with C-AF in the G9 with both the P-L 12-35/2.8 v!,

Yes, me too.  I don't usually use c-af for my videos but earlier this year I used it to film my daughter at some of her horse lessons and it did well tracking her as she rode towards and away from me. Since then, I used its face tracking AF for some birthday videos and it worked pretty well in that scenario, too.  Although I think I should've used tracking AF so it stuck with a singe person's face.

There's definitely an huge improve in AF vs. my GX7, G85 and GX9.

And the G9's low light performance is flat amazing in both stills and video. Below is link to short 4K60p video in my studio with very dimmed lighting - corners barely visible to naked eye - ISO 10,000, 12-35@ 35mm, f/2.8, 1/30 sec, demonstrating C-AF that for the most part is accurate with minimal pulsation in a range of 2-20'. Also absent is any trace of macro-blocking in shadows, with a fine-grain pattern, and the ability to produce a true photographic black of (R,G,B 0,0,0) in captured frames - thus excellent colors for the situation, as well as very good detail. At least 1 EV improvement over GH5 in IQ...

https://vimeo.com/292529325

Wow, that's very impressive!

Look at at the em1mk2 cheap and video af  for kids is faultless.

Don

Oboyle wrote:

I think there's a $500+ difference between them. You might want to throw the Em1ii into the mix as the video features are identical to the markiii and its priced about the same as the G9. With the G9 you're getting a much larger and higher res evf than the olys and 2 uhs-ii card slots vs just 1 uhs-ii and 1 uhs 1 slot with the olys. Oly claims better ibis but they're both so good you'd be hard pressed to see the difference. Panny DFD works pretty well for CAF but the Oly will serve you better if you're planning to shoot video that way. I mostly use manual focus with peaking when I shoot with my G9.

In my experience, video C-AF in the G9 with the 12-100/4.0 is unexpectedly very good - at least in the 4K60p I normally shoot - very little hunting or the 3-step polka.