Are there any 600mm lenses for the Sony mirrorless cameras on the horizon?

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zBernie
zBernie Contributing Member • Posts: 547
Are there any 600mm lenses for the Sony mirrorless cameras on the horizon?

I have a Sony a7iii and was wondering if there are any rumors of lenses which will fit this camera?  I believe the only two are the Sony 200-600mm f/5.6 and the Sony prime f/4, which is about $13k.  I thought that Tamron or Sigma might have a 600mm available by now.

-Thanks

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AZheaven Senior Member • Posts: 1,584
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zBernie wrote:

I have a Sony a7iii and was wondering if there are any rumors of lenses which will fit this camera? I believe the only two are the Sony 200-600mm f/5.6 and the Sony prime f/4, which is about $13k. I thought that Tamron or Sigma might have a 600mm available by now.

-Thanks

I haven't seen anything even rumored since last March. The only rumor lens wise that I saw for a wildlife zoom was a Tamron 200-400 f4. That was 8 months ago? But nothing recently. It would be nice if Tamron or Sigma offered up a 600mm or 800mm prime like Canon did, except not f11!!!

I gave up waiting for any 3rd party options and just bought the Sony 100-400. If I need longer I'll rent. Speaking of...I did rent the 200-600 and it was just too heavy for me. Nice lens but the weight was a bit too much. The 100-400 is so much easier to carry and hand hold.

Cavig1 Contributing Member • Posts: 585
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Just my opinion, but I wouldn’t hold out waiting for an inexpensive 500 or 600mm lens.  Even from a third party.  For example Sigma’s 500mm f4 costs $6000+   And from my experience, super-tele 3rd party lens don’t work as well on Sony cameras as Sony lens.

Sony may pull a Nikon and release a 500mm f5.6.  But that would eat into the 100-400 and 200-600 market share.  Not to mention, that the Nikon version costs $3500 (if you can get one).

The 200-600 and 100-400 are both amazingly good for the price.  Both also work very well with the 1.4x teleconvertor.

The 200-600 is a bit heavier.  Weight-wise, not much different from using a 150-600 Sigma C.  But it doesn’t extend and has much better balance (more weight towards the camera).  Plus, it gives you 200 more mms than the lighter and closer MFD 100-400. And every millimeter of reach helps.

Again in my opinion, you get a lot for your $2000-$2500 with the Sony zooms.  Rent one or both and you’ll be sold 👍

Good light and good shooting 😷

Cavig

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I do hope as I'm waiting as well.  I'm envious of Canon's 800 f11.  While Sony's 200-600 looks ok the times I truly wanted a 600+ lens are when I'm backpacking much to far to carry of that weight.  It would be great if Sigma could produce a 300-600 zoom factoring in weight and size.  I have no problem increasing my ISO

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dkeller Senior Member • Posts: 1,550
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Sigma doesn't have a great record of producing small or light lenses in this range.  I would think Tamron would be more likely.  I wonder how adapted Canon telephotos fit into this picture as they have a good selection.

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Ken Sky Regular Member • Posts: 407
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I'm getting the LEAE5 to use my Minolta 500mm f/8 reflex. To hell with the donuts!;-)

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QuietOC
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dkeller wrote:

Sigma doesn't have a great record of producing small or light lenses in this range. I would think Tamron would be more likely. I wonder how adapted Canon telephotos fit into this picture as they have a good selection.

My Sigma 600mm F8 is fairly small and light.

I am enjoying Canon telephotos, but none that long so far.

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AZheaven Senior Member • Posts: 1,584
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Cavig1 wrote:

Just my opinion, but I wouldn’t hold out waiting for an inexpensive 500 or 600mm lens. Even from a third party. For example Sigma’s 500mm f4 costs $6000+ And from my experience, super-tele 3rd party lens don’t work as well on Sony cameras as Sony lens.

Sony may pull a Nikon and release a 500mm f5.6. But that would eat into the 100-400 and 200-600 market share. Not to mention, that the Nikon version costs $3500 (if you can get one).

The 200-600 and 100-400 are both amazingly good for the price. Both also work very well with the 1.4x teleconvertor.

The 200-600 is a bit heavier. Weight-wise, not much different from using a 150-600 Sigma C. But it doesn’t extend and has much better balance (more weight towards the camera). Plus, it gives you 200 more mms than the lighter and closer MFD 100-400. And every millimeter of reach helps.

Again in my opinion, you get a lot for your $2000-$2500 with the Sony zooms. Rent one or both and you’ll be sold 👍

Good light and good shooting 😷

Cavig

I think you answered me and not the OP!

But I have to say I'm really enjoying the Sony 100-400. It's small and light and can easily be carried around on my Peak Design Slide Strap. I can hold my A7III/100-400 without shaking like Don Knotts in The Ghost and Mr. Chicken like I was holding the 200-600. I almost bought the 200-600 blind and glad I didn't. I had a good offer from Lensrental and rented one for a week. Now in all honesty I'm recovering from knee replacement and a thumb joint surgery, so I lost quite a bit of stamina and strength.

The main thing is now is that I'm getting out more and more and I'm having fun!

Dan_168 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,673
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zBernie wrote:

I have a Sony a7iii and was wondering if there are any rumors of lenses which will fit this camera? I believe the only two are the Sony 200-600mm f/5.6 and the Sony prime f/4, which is about $13k. I thought that Tamron or Sigma might have a 600mm available by now.

-Thanks

I am using both my Sigma 150-600 ( Nikon Mount) and Tamron 150-600 ( canon EF mount) on my Sony A7R IV occasionally, such as shooting timelapse for moon rise and stuffs like that, both works fine, but as a landscape guy I use them in manual focus only, main reason is I don't use my Sony as my main camera only used for backpacking and very long day hike, so for those trip I never bring a 600mm lens no matter that is Sony or Canon or whatever brand , so I don't really need a dedicated Sony mount version, but if I do, the 200-600 will do the job for me, i especially like the short zoom ring rotation travel distance, a quarter of a turn, you move from 200mm to 600mm already, also I am a huge of a internal zoom, so the Sony 200-600 checks all the boxes for me if I need a dedicated Sony zoom.

Maybe Sony will produce something like the Canon RF 600 and 800 type of lenses in the future, I personally will never buy one of those F11 primes lens, just too limiting with such small aperture.

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Cavig1 wrote:

Just my opinion, but I wouldn’t hold out waiting for an inexpensive 500 or 600mm lens. Even from a third party. For example Sigma’s 500mm f4 costs $6000+ And from my experience, super-tele 3rd party lens don’t work as well on Sony cameras as Sony lens.

Sony may pull a Nikon and release a 500mm f5.6. But that would eat into the 100-400 and 200-600 market share. Not to mention, that the Nikon version costs $3500 (if you can get one).

The 200-600 and 100-400 are both amazingly good for the price. Both also work very well with the 1.4x teleconvertor.

The 200-600 is a bit heavier. Weight-wise, not much different from using a 150-600 Sigma C. But it doesn’t extend and has much better balance (more weight towards the camera). Plus, it gives you 200 more mms than the lighter and closer MFD 100-400. And every millimeter of reach helps.

Again in my opinion, you get a lot for your $2000-$2500 with the Sony zooms. Rent one or both and you’ll be sold 👍

Good light and good shooting 😷

Cavig

Thanks.  The Sony 200-600 seems like a good deal.  I already have a Sony 70-300 so I would probably go with that over the 100-400.  Although a teleconverter is an option.

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I am getting the LA-EA5 to go with my Minolta 500mm AF also to have when I want to go really light for FF. I do have the Sigma and Sony 100-400mm and Sony 200-600G for my serious wildlife photography using FF. I watched a video on Youtube where a guy tested many A- mount lenses and LA-EA5 on the A7RIV. The last one he tested was the 500 Reflex Minolta AF and it looked pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V9_-PYvCHs

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burning1rr Contributing Member • Posts: 658
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AZheaven wrote:

I gave up waiting for any 3rd party options and just bought the Sony 100-400. If I need longer I'll rent. Speaking of...I did rent the 200-600 and it was just too heavy for me. Nice lens but the weight was a bit too much. The 100-400 is so much easier to carry and hand hold.

FWIW... This is true for pretty much all 600mm lenses. The Sony 200-600 is actually the easiest one to use all day, owing to the internal zoom and the short throw zoom ring.

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pollup Contributing Member • Posts: 748
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Cavig1 wrote:

Just my opinion, but I wouldn’t hold out waiting for an inexpensive 500 or 600mm lens. Even from a third party. For example Sigma’s 500mm f4 costs $6000+ And from my experience, super-tele 3rd party lens don’t work as well on Sony cameras as Sony lens.

Sony may pull a Nikon and release a 500mm f5.6. But that would eat into the 100-400 and 200-600 market share. Not to mention, that the Nikon version costs $3500 (if you can get one).

This doesn't seem like a good argument:

1) Every lens eats into other lenses' market share to some degree. Sony made a 20mm f1.8 which eats into the 16-35mm f2.8 market share, right? And their 12-24mm f2.8 also eats into the 16-35mm f2.8 market share. Even their 35mm f1.8 does. And yet, they still release those lenses.

The 200-600mm also eats into the 100-400mm market share, big time. So why they made it?

2) Because they don't really care about "lens market share". What they care about is total profit, regardless of the lens. I'm pretty sure Sony would love to make a 500mm f5.6 PF like Nikon, because that will increase that "total profit number", by bringing more people to the ecosystem. Sure, that will mean the 100-400 and 200-600 will sell fewer units, but overall, Sony will sell greater units.

So, I think we can drop that argument.

The 200-600 and 100-400 are both amazingly good for the price. Both also work very well with the 1.4x teleconvertor.

The 200-600 is a bit heavier. Weight-wise, not much different from using a 150-600 Sigma C. But it doesn’t extend and has much better balance (more weight towards the camera). Plus, it gives you 200 more mms than the lighter and closer MFD 100-400. And every millimeter of reach helps.

Again in my opinion, you get a lot for your $2000-$2500 with the Sony zooms. Rent one or both and you’ll be sold 👍

Good light and good shooting 😷

Cavig

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dkeller Senior Member • Posts: 1,550
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Sony has the 500mm.  It is very expensive, as are all primes in this range from any company--not to mention low demand due to the price.  I don't see Sony making 600mm prime which would be pretty much the same market and even more expensive.  For those working on a less than professional budget, the current zoom provides what most of us need and are willing to pay for.

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QuietOC
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dkeller wrote:

Sony has the 500mm. It is very expensive, as are all primes in this range from any company--not to mention low demand due to the price. I don't see Sony making 600mm prime which would be pretty much the same market and even more expensive...

The 600mm F4 GM OSS prime was released alongside the 200-600 G OSS last year. Sony offered two 500mm primes for A-mount a rebranded Minolta AF F8 mirror and the 500mm F4 G SSM from 2012. The later is the exact same price as the 600mm F4 GM OSS.

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dkeller Senior Member • Posts: 1,550
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Thank you.  I was thinking the Sony 500 was E mount but it is A mount.

It seems this range is pretty well filled with the 400 2.8 GM and 600 f4 GM if one happens to have a spouse that doesn't mind us paying $12000 or $13000 respectively.  LOL

Still looks like the long zooms are a safer choice for the rest of us.

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I have the 600/4 and had the 200-600.

The IQ on the 600 is just great and the AF speed is worth it if one can afford it. The weight is one of the best perks on this one too.

The 200-600 is very good. I gave mine to my sister and am about to get another. The weight is a little more than one might expect but not bad. I think the diameter of the lens is what makes it a little uncomfortable to hold. What I mean is, the 600 I know I'll mostly hold by the foot unless I'm shooting things in trees that need manual AF override in which case I move the foot to the top and rest the lens on/in my hand.

The 200-600 is used with a foot but it's size and weight are right where you (I) want to just hand hold it and ignore the foot...but... it's so large around that (for my hands at least) this doesn't feel comfortable so I can't "manhandle" it. Still, it had very good IQ for the price and good range and focuses pretty fast.

With on sensor AF they both do well with TCs (esp the 600).

I'd not hold my breath on 3rd party options (at least not new ones down the road). Long lenses are not cheap to RD well. I used the Sigma 500 with my D850 when on Nikon and really liked it. Heavy - but I liked the IQ quite well...and, for 4K used - it was relatively affordable.

Good luck in your decision making.

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Almazar80 Senior Member • Posts: 1,563
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The 200-600 Sony zoom is quite light for the type of lens that it is.  It is certainly lighter than my old 150-600 Tamron zoom.

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zBernie wrote:

Cavig1 wrote:

Just my opinion, but I wouldn’t hold out waiting for an inexpensive 500 or 600mm lens. Even from a third party. For example Sigma’s 500mm f4 costs $6000+ And from my experience, super-tele 3rd party lens don’t work as well on Sony cameras as Sony lens.

Sony may pull a Nikon and release a 500mm f5.6. But that would eat into the 100-400 and 200-600 market share. Not to mention, that the Nikon version costs $3500 (if you can get one).

The 200-600 and 100-400 are both amazingly good for the price. Both also work very well with the 1.4x teleconvertor.

The 200-600 is a bit heavier. Weight-wise, not much different from using a 150-600 Sigma C. But it doesn’t extend and has much better balance (more weight towards the camera). Plus, it gives you 200 more mms than the lighter and closer MFD 100-400. And every millimeter of reach helps.

Again in my opinion, you get a lot for your $2000-$2500 with the Sony zooms. Rent one or both and you’ll be sold 👍

Good light and good shooting 😷

Cavig

Thanks. The Sony 200-600 seems like a good deal. I already have a Sony 70-300 so I would probably go with that over the 100-400. Although a teleconverter is an option.

I own the G 200..600 and it's probably the best affordable 600 mm lens in the industry - in case you don't need 600 mm there are many options to go to 300..400 mm reach.

In case you have sujets that need the utmost enlargement the G 200..600 is maybe the reason to buy into the Sony eco system.

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The Sony FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS is not a perfect lens but it is no less than a steal for the money and it alone may be a reason for buying into the Sony system - if you are really into such long tele lenses

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PWPhotography Forum Pro • Posts: 10,804
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Both Sigma and Tamron only have EF/F/A-mount 150-600mm zoom that are good but not as good as Sony 200-600 G that latter has internal zooming and only need to rotate 1/4 turn from 200-600mm that is a huge advantage. Sony 200-600 G is relative affordable (that I own) and I'd not pickup Sigma or Tamron for just a few hundred less. I still trust OEM long lenses over third parties' ones.

For 600mm prime, both Sigma and Tamron never have. Sigma does have EF/F/A-mount 500mm/F4.0 super-tele. It's good but not as good as Canon/Ninon counterpart in optical quality and AF-C tracking, and gap is bigger with TCs. Personally I am waiting to see future FE 500/4.0 GM OSS that has the best balance of reach and size/weight in my opinion.

So the short answer is to get FE 100-600 G that is very good overall and relative affordable especially if you can get an EDU discount in USA.

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