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Fall colors 2020

Started Oct 3, 2020 | Discussions
Maoby
Maoby Veteran Member • Posts: 5,479
Fall colors 2020
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Good season to compare my Lumix GX7 with the Sigma sd Quattro H

Duel µ4 / 3 against Quattro H

https://www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72157716236172227

My Lumix DMC-GX7 (2013) and the Sigma sd Quattro H (2016-17)

Panasonic Lumix GX7 (2013)
16.1 MP sensor (4592 x 3448)
Price: $ 1,000.00 USD
The photo was taken with the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 75mm f1.8
(multiplication factor of 2) Micro 4/3
ISO 125-25600

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Sigma sd Quattro H (2016-17)
25.56 MP (6192 x 4128) sensor
Price: $ 1,200 USD
Photos were taken with the Sigma 24-105mm F4 DG OS HSM Art
(with a multiplication factor of 1.3) APS-H
ISO 100-6400

Lumix DMC-GX7 (2013) / Sigma sd Quattro H (2016-17)

N°01 Lumix GX7 (2013)

N°01 Sigma Quattro H (2016-17)

N°03 Lumix GX7 (2013)

N°03 Sigma Quattro H (2016-17)

Your turn to judge
https://www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72157716236172227
Your remarks are welcome!

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Joe Lynch Veteran Member • Posts: 3,186
Re: Fall colors 2020
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I enjoyed going through your Flickr album, photos from both cameras look good to me.

Joe

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Maoby
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Re: Fall colors 2020
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Gary from Seattle Veteran Member • Posts: 7,852
Re: Fall colors 2020

I don't know; which was more accurate? Boosting saturation in post is very easy if that is what you want to do. I usually find I can boost saturation about +3 without the image looking phony with my EM-1's. Backlit, depending, I may boost saturation more if there is significant shadowing.

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Jozef M Senior Member • Posts: 2,199
Re: Fall colors 2020

Both photos look great, but the Quattro wins if you like more detail.

I wonder if the comparison of the cameras at iso 1600 and picturing a low lightning scene is also in favor of the Sigma.

Jozef.

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Maoby
OP Maoby Veteran Member • Posts: 5,479
Re: Fall colors 2020

Saturation is one factor among many
Here I apply a minimum of retouching to remain fair between each camera.
The Sigma is by default much more saturated.

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Maoby
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Re: Fall colors 2020

For me, the Sigma completely collapses at 1600 ISO
https://www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72157716236172227/with/50411418238/

N°21 Lumix GX7 (1600 ISO)

N°21 Sigma Quattro H (1600 ISO)

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Joe Lynch Veteran Member • Posts: 3,186
Re: Fall colors 2020

Yep, Lumix wins in low light, I think.  Won't be able to see the Lumix photo for another 4 weeks, however. 

Joe

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JosephScha Veteran Member • Posts: 7,249
Re: Fall colors 2020

The main difference I see is in brightness of reds.  I bet with some simple editing you could get your GX7 pictures to look a lot more like the Sigma camera.

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Jozef M Senior Member • Posts: 2,199
Re: Fall colors 2020

Maoby wrote:

For me, the Sigma completely collapses at 1600 ISO
https://www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72157716236172227/with/50411418238/

N°21 Lumix GX7 (1600 ISO)

N°21 Sigma Quattro H (1600 ISO)

Yes, iso1600 looks horrible from a Sigma Foveon sensor, it's IQ is even worse than I thought.

Thanks for posting.

Jozef.

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Maoby
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Re: Fall colors 2020

Of course, it is still possible to interact on the render.
By the way, it is not always easy to modify a color, without modifying the whites.

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Joe Lynch Veteran Member • Posts: 3,186
Re: Fall colors 2020

Check the EXIF date on the Lumix shot above.

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