70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL

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aaronkick111 Forum Member • Posts: 84
70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL
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So I currently have the 70-200mm which i hardly use much and hardly ever at 2.8. So was wondering if anyone had experience with both lenses and how big a difference there as at say F/8 for landscape work?

And if it is a good idea to trade the 70-200mm to buy the 70-300mm and money towards another lens?

And how well the AF-P works on the FTZ adapter on a Z6

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cosmicnode Veteran Member • Posts: 5,642
Re: 70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL
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aaronkick111 wrote:

So I currently have the 70-200mm which i hardly use much and hardly ever at 2.8. So was wondering if anyone had experience with both lenses and how big a difference there as at say F/8 for landscape work?

And if it is a good idea to trade the 70-200mm to buy the 70-300mm and money towards another lens?

And how well the AF-P works on the FTZ adapter on a Z6

I did exactly that for motorsport. I rarely used it at F2.8 and the extra 100 mm is far more useful , it's a sharp and fast focussing lens with good VR.

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OP aaronkick111 Forum Member • Posts: 84
Re: 70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL

cosmicnode wrote:

aaronkick111 wrote:

So I currently have the 70-200mm which i hardly use much and hardly ever at 2.8. So was wondering if anyone had experience with both lenses and how big a difference there as at say F/8 for landscape work?

And if it is a good idea to trade the 70-200mm to buy the 70-300mm and money towards another lens?

And how well the AF-P works on the FTZ adapter on a Z6

I did exactly that for motorsport. I rarely used it at F2.8 and the extra 100 mm is far more useful , it's a sharp and fast focussing lens with good VR.

Wouldn’t use massively for action. More for landscape and some wildlife

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Barleyman
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Re: 70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL
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I haven't seen an issues with my AFP 70-300 on the Z6.  It focuses very quickly.

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OP aaronkick111 Forum Member • Posts: 84
Re: 70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL

Barleyman wrote:

I haven't seen an issues with my AFP 70-300 on the Z6. It focuses very quickly.

Looks good tbf

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kenw
kenw Veteran Member • Posts: 6,309
Re: 70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL

For real world stopped down landscape testing I find cameralabs has the most useful review images:

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-af-p-70-300mm-f4-5-5-6e-ed-vr-review/2/

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-70-200mm-f2-8e-review/2/

From the samples in there it looks like you give up very little IQ at F/8 between the two lenses.

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OP aaronkick111 Forum Member • Posts: 84
Re: 70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL
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kenw wrote:

For real world stopped down landscape testing I find cameralabs has the most useful review images:

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-af-p-70-300mm-f4-5-5-6e-ed-vr-review/2/

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-70-200mm-f2-8e-review/2/

From the samples in there it looks like you give up very little IQ at F/8 between the two lenses.

Thanks for this think this may be a good option

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FuhTeng
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Re: 70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL

aaronkick111 wrote:

kenw wrote:

For real world stopped down landscape testing I find cameralabs has the most useful review images:

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-af-p-70-300mm-f4-5-5-6e-ed-vr-review/2/

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-70-200mm-f2-8e-review/2/

From the samples in there it looks like you give up very little IQ at F/8 between the two lenses.

Thanks for this think this may be a good option

While bench tests are of dubious utility for outright sharpness, I appreciate them for relative purposes - https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-70-300mm-vr-af-p/3

Sure, the FL is better but it certainly should be! However at f/8, I don't think anyone could tell the difference even at 100%. I have both lenses but I always use the AFP for landscapes. So much easier to carry and the length improvement is significant.

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OP aaronkick111 Forum Member • Posts: 84
Re: 70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL

FuhTeng wrote:

aaronkick111 wrote:

kenw wrote:

For real world stopped down landscape testing I find cameralabs has the most useful review images:

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-af-p-70-300mm-f4-5-5-6e-ed-vr-review/2/

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-70-200mm-f2-8e-review/2/

From the samples in there it looks like you give up very little IQ at F/8 between the two lenses.

Thanks for this think this may be a good option

While bench tests are of dubious utility for outright sharpness, I appreciate them for relative purposes - https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-70-300mm-vr-af-p/3

Sure, the FL is better but it certainly should be! However at f/8, I don't think anyone could tell the difference even at 100%. I have both lenses but I always use the AFP for landscapes. So much easier to carry and the length improvement is significant.

so you have both? I currently have the 70-200mm so if i never use 2.8 and want something lighter for landscape would you say it makes sense to trade the 70-200mm

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Snapshotx7 Regular Member • Posts: 290
Re: 70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL
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aaronkick111 wrote:

FuhTeng wrote:

aaronkick111 wrote:

kenw wrote:

For real world stopped down landscape testing I find cameralabs has the most useful review images:

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-af-p-70-300mm-f4-5-5-6e-ed-vr-review/2/

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-70-200mm-f2-8e-review/2/

From the samples in there it looks like you give up very little IQ at F/8 between the two lenses.

Thanks for this think this may be a good option

While bench tests are of dubious utility for outright sharpness, I appreciate them for relative purposes - https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-70-300mm-vr-af-p/3

Sure, the FL is better but it certainly should be! However at f/8, I don't think anyone could tell the difference even at 100%. I have both lenses but I always use the AFP for landscapes. So much easier to carry and the length improvement is significant.

so you have both? I currently have the 70-200mm so if i never use 2.8 and want something lighter for landscape would you say it makes sense to trade the 70-200mm

You answered your own question if you never use the 70-200 at 2.8.  The weight, size, cost, and purpose of the 70-200 2.8 is based on using it at 2.8 at some point.

I sold my 70-200 2.8 VR2 because as a hobbyist that doesn't shoot portraits or action shots very often, the weight and size just wasn't worth it.  The 70-200 sat on the shelf most of the time because it was too cumbersome to bring on most trips.

I now have a 70-300 AF-P that I use with my Z6 and I bring it with me every time I bring my camera now because it's compact, light, and has excellent image quality stopped down to f8 and still very good image quality wide open.  That extra 5% of potentially better image quality is not worth the weight, size, and cost of the 2.8 for my uses.

For landscape use I'd absolutely get the 70-300 over the 70-200.  At $550 the 70-300 doesn't break the bank either.  You could just keep the 70-200 for now and just buy the 70-300 to try out for awhile.

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OP aaronkick111 Forum Member • Posts: 84
Re: 70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL

Snapshotx7 wrote:

aaronkick111 wrote:

FuhTeng wrote:

aaronkick111 wrote:

kenw wrote:

For real world stopped down landscape testing I find cameralabs has the most useful review images:

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-af-p-70-300mm-f4-5-5-6e-ed-vr-review/2/

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-70-200mm-f2-8e-review/2/

From the samples in there it looks like you give up very little IQ at F/8 between the two lenses.

Thanks for this think this may be a good option

While bench tests are of dubious utility for outright sharpness, I appreciate them for relative purposes - https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-70-300mm-vr-af-p/3

Sure, the FL is better but it certainly should be! However at f/8, I don't think anyone could tell the difference even at 100%. I have both lenses but I always use the AFP for landscapes. So much easier to carry and the length improvement is significant.

so you have both? I currently have the 70-200mm so if i never use 2.8 and want something lighter for landscape would you say it makes sense to trade the 70-200mm

You answered your own question if you never use the 70-200 at 2.8. The weight, size, cost, and purpose of the 70-200 2.8 is based on using it at 2.8 at some point.

I sold my 70-200 2.8 VR2 because as a hobbyist that doesn't shoot portraits or action shots very often, the weight and size just wasn't worth it. The 70-200 sat on the shelf most of the time because it was too cumbersome to bring on most trips.

I now have a 70-300 AF-P that I use with my Z6 and I bring it with me every time I bring my camera now because it's compact, light, and has excellent image quality stopped down to f8 and still very good image quality wide open. That extra 5% of potentially better image quality is not worth the weight, size, and cost of the 2.8 for my uses.

For landscape use I'd absolutely get the 70-300 over the 70-200. At $550 the 70-300 doesn't break the bank either. You could just keep the 70-200 for now and just buy the 70-300 to try out for awhile.

And you have just confirmed for me it has been sat in my bag but when i went away the other day i didnt want to carry it with me as a just in case i need it lens. I brought it originally thinking i would shoot low light sports but never happened

so i think ill just get the afp

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FuhTeng
FuhTeng Senior Member • Posts: 1,261
Re: 70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL

aaronkick111 wrote:

FuhTeng wrote:

aaronkick111 wrote:

kenw wrote:

For real world stopped down landscape testing I find cameralabs has the most useful review images:

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-af-p-70-300mm-f4-5-5-6e-ed-vr-review/2/

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-70-200mm-f2-8e-review/2/

From the samples in there it looks like you give up very little IQ at F/8 between the two lenses.

Thanks for this think this may be a good option

While bench tests are of dubious utility for outright sharpness, I appreciate them for relative purposes - https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-70-300mm-vr-af-p/3

Sure, the FL is better but it certainly should be! However at f/8, I don't think anyone could tell the difference even at 100%. I have both lenses but I always use the AFP for landscapes. So much easier to carry and the length improvement is significant.

so you have both? I currently have the 70-200mm so if i never use 2.8 and want something lighter for landscape would you say it makes sense to trade the 70-200mm

Yes aaron, I certainly think you can sell the FL for the AFP. I use the FL for wildlife and sports and it's my main money-maker as I use it for portraits so there's no way I'll get ride of it.

However, I won't get rid of the 70-300 because it's too small and flexible and good for other things, namely landscapes. I love that it's also apparently a bit weather-sealed too, which has made it comfortable use in light adverse weather.

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Karl-FR
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Re: 70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL

aaronkick111 wrote:

So I currently have the 70-200mm which i hardly use much and hardly ever at 2.8. So was wondering if anyone had experience with both lenses and how big a difference there as at say F/8 for landscape work?

And if it is a good idea to trade the 70-200mm to buy the 70-300mm and money towards another lens?

And how well the AF-P works on the FTZ adapter on a Z6

Hi arronkick,

I'm in similar situation as you. I have a 70-200 f2.8 (Sigma Sport version 1.8kg) wich is too heavy for my landscape trips.

I was looking for a solution, I have done a thread about it but I'm not decided yet.

The AFP is very tenting (Price, weight and size) but the native Nikkor 24-200 is an very compact option too. What do you think about it ?

Z6 + 24-200 = ~1kg2 // Z6+ 70-300 = ~2kg

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Mach Schnell Senior Member • Posts: 2,985
F/2.8 for landscapes? Yes!
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Sometimes the f/2.8 aperture of the 70-200 can be pretty useful for landscapes. I took the lens on my last landscape photo shoot and used it more than any other lens. Here is an example at f/2.8.

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OP aaronkick111 Forum Member • Posts: 84
Re: F/2.8 for landscapes? Yes!

Mach Schnell wrote:

Sometimes the f/2.8 aperture of the 70-200 can be pretty useful for landscapes. I took the lens on my last landscape photo shoot and used it more than any other lens. Here is an example at f/2.8.

Lovely shot

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OP aaronkick111 Forum Member • Posts: 84
Re: 70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL
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Karl-FR wrote:

aaronkick111 wrote:

So I currently have the 70-200mm which i hardly use much and hardly ever at 2.8. So was wondering if anyone had experience with both lenses and how big a difference there as at say F/8 for landscape work?

And if it is a good idea to trade the 70-200mm to buy the 70-300mm and money towards another lens?

And how well the AF-P works on the FTZ adapter on a Z6

Hi arronkick,

I'm in similar situation as you. I have a 70-200 f2.8 (Sigma Sport version 1.8kg) wich is too heavy for my landscape trips.

I was looking for a solution, I have done a thread about it but I'm not decided yet.

The AFP is very tenting (Price, weight and size) but the native Nikkor 24-200 is an very compact option too. What do you think about it ?

Z6 + 24-200 = ~1kg2 // Z6+ 70-300 = ~2kg

I like the idea of the native 24-200mm but dont like overlapping focal length and i love the 24-70mm f4

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kenw
kenw Veteran Member • Posts: 6,309
Re: 70-300mm AFP FX vs 70-200mm 2.8 FL

FuhTeng wrote:

aaronkick111 wrote:

kenw wrote:

For real world stopped down landscape testing I find cameralabs has the most useful review images:

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-af-p-70-300mm-f4-5-5-6e-ed-vr-review/2/

https://www.cameralabs.com/nikon-70-200mm-f2-8e-review/2/

From the samples in there it looks like you give up very little IQ at F/8 between the two lenses.

Thanks for this think this may be a good option

While bench tests are of dubious utility for outright sharpness, I appreciate them for relative purposes - https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-70-300mm-vr-af-p/3

Sure, the FL is better but it certainly should be! However at f/8, I don't think anyone could tell the difference even at 100%. I have both lenses but I always use the AFP for landscapes. So much easier to carry and the length improvement is significant.

The nice thing with cameralabs is that in addition to the standard test chart shots which are often of little utility for landscape they actually go outside and take comparison images of a distant landscape scene for easy side by side comparisons of performance in a real world landscape shooting situation.

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