Purchasing a R6 and very confused about cards and lenses

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Sarah Is Confused New Member • Posts: 5
Purchasing a R6 and very confused about cards and lenses
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Hello everyone,

First post here. I have been photographing on my second hand, very beat up, 7D for years and have decided to take the plunge and buy a R6. I'm not very technology minded and having been using the equipment for so long I'm a bit confused about all the different options for cards. Google is telling me I should buy 2 "SanDisk 128GB Extreme Pro 300MB/s UHS-II SDXC Card", would you all agree with this?

I'm hoping to purchase a 70-200mm lens later in the year and wasn't sure if I should go for a secondhand (but like new) EF or a new (but with cash back) RF. Does anyone have an opinion on this?

I mostly photograph my children but I'm also taking a video course and plan to use the camera for family films. I also have a set of studio lights that I use for "photoshoots" with my children.

Thank you all so much, all advice is welcome.

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Sarah Is Confused wrote:

Hello everyone,

First post here. I have been photographing on my second hand, very beat up, 7D for years and have decided to take the plunge and buy a R6. I'm not very technology minded and having been using the equipment for so long I'm a bit confused about all the different options for cards. Google is telling me I should buy 2 "SanDisk 128GB Extreme Pro 300MB/s UHS-II SDXC Card", would you all agree with this?

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Sarah Is Confused wrote:

Hello everyone,

First post here. I have been photographing on my second hand, very beat up, 7D for years and have decided to take the plunge and buy a R6. I'm not very technology minded and having been using the equipment for so long I'm a bit confused about all the different options for cards. Google is telling me I should buy 2 "SanDisk 128GB Extreme Pro 300MB/s UHS-II SDXC Card", would you all agree with this?

I'm hoping to purchase a 70-200mm lens later in the year and wasn't sure if I should go for a secondhand (but like new) EF or a new (but with cash back) RF. Does anyone have an opinion on this?

I mostly photograph my children but I'm also taking a video course and plan to use the camera for family films. I also have a set of studio lights that I use for "photoshoots" with my children.

Thank you all so much, all advice is welcome.

"SanDisk 128GB Extreme Pro 300MB/s UHS-II SDXC Card" is a very good card, but if all you will do is photographing your children and family you don't necessarily need it, let alone two of them. One of them will be plentiful, or two 64GB ones if you want the best peace of mind for redundancy. Hell, even one 64GB is a good starting point if you wanna save the money for something else. Of course SD cards are quite cheap nowadays and / or if you have a large budget then sure go for 2 128GB ones.

About the 70-200, of course the RF one is the greatest right now but the EF version ii or iii is not too far behind. The best thing about the RF is it's quite light and compact (when collapsed), so bringing it on shoots feels less of a hassle. That, of course, comes with a much heftier price tag. Image quality and focus wise, the RF will be a bit better than the other two, but not by much and you'll need to pixel peep to see the difference. The images from the EF lenses will definitely be enough to make you happy. So in my opinion, consider their sizes / ergonomics and price more than image quality / focus speed.

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Rahto Senior Member • Posts: 1,165
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I suspect the fast SD card recommendation is based on the video specs of the R6 and not so relevant to shooting stills so if you plan on shooting a lot of video fast cards might be prudent. As for the 70-200 as already mentioned they should all work fine on the R6. The one difference is I don’t believe the new RF one works with tele converters if that is important to you. Both of the Canon F-4 and F-2.8 EF versions are compatible with both Canon 1.4x and 2x converters.

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OP Sarah Is Confused New Member • Posts: 5
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Thank you so much for explaining, I appreciate it.

One more question if you don't mind regarding the cards, is the 300MB/s one I should get? I'm guessing that's how fast it saves? If I'm doing video as well do I need this fast one?

Thanks again, I was very nervous posting here as you are all so knowledgeable and I haven't got a clue what I'm doing lol!

OP Sarah Is Confused New Member • Posts: 5
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Thank you guys, I appreciate all your time. This all makes much more sense now 😊

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Sarah Is Confused wrote:

Hello everyone,

First post here. I have been photographing on my second hand, very beat up, 7D for years and have decided to take the plunge and buy a R6. I'm not very technology minded and having been using the equipment for so long I'm a bit confused about all the different options for cards. Google is telling me I should buy 2 "SanDisk 128GB Extreme Pro 300MB/s UHS-II SDXC Card", would you all agree with this?

I'm hoping to purchase a 70-200mm lens later in the year and wasn't sure if I should go for a secondhand (but like new) EF or a new (but with cash back) RF. Does anyone have an opinion on this?

I mostly photograph my children but I'm also taking a video course and plan to use the camera for family films. I also have a set of studio lights that I use for "photoshoots" with my children.

Thank you all so much, all advice is welcome.

I don't shoot video and shoot very little action, but I understand that faster cards are very helpful for video and somewhat helpful for burst shooting of stills.  If your kids are in sports, that can matter.

EF lenses are just as good on R type cameras as they are on EF type cameras.

Where the RF lenses will help you is with the high speed display that improves your view in the view finder and the speed of burst shooting for sports.  They are also typically smaller and lighter.  The image quality is going to be better, but not that much.

That's my opinion, and it's worth what you paid for it.

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RexTremendae Forum Member • Posts: 90
Re: Purchasing a R6 and very confused about cards and lenses

Sarah Is Confused wrote:

Hello everyone,

First post here. I have been photographing on my second hand, very beat up, 7D for years and have decided to take the plunge and buy a R6. I'm not very technology minded and having been using the equipment for so long I'm a bit confused about all the different options for cards. Google is telling me I should buy 2 "SanDisk 128GB Extreme Pro 300MB/s UHS-II SDXC Card", would you all agree with this?

An alternative would be something like the Sony Tough CFExpress 128GB. It will give faster write speeds should you want to take advantage of the R6's burst speeds.

I'm hoping to purchase a 70-200mm lens later in the year and wasn't sure if I should go for a secondhand (but like new) EF or a new (but with cash back) RF. Does anyone have an opinion on this?

I would get the RF 70-200, it is substantially lighter and easier to handle than the EF 70-200's and it is just a smidge better optically. It's pricey but the light weight is worth it. Those old 70-200's are tanks, I never shot with my old heavy 70-200's unless I was being paid to use them, now I'm happy to walk around with the new RF lens.

I mostly photograph my children but I'm also taking a video course and plan to use the camera for family films. I also have a set of studio lights that I use for "photoshoots" with my children.

Again, the RF 70-200 is in elite territory here. I don't like making vast presumptions but I doubt you can do better than an R6/R5 paired with the RF 70-200 for video.

Another option could be the RF 100-500L. It has similar image quality and focus speeds but obviously a much larger range. The downside is the max aperture range of f/4.5-7.1 compared to constant f/2.8 on the RF 70-200.

Thank you all so much, all advice is welcome.

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Croomrider Regular Member • Posts: 478
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RexTremendae wrote:

Another option could be the RF 100-500L. It has similar image quality and focus speeds but obviously a much larger range. The downside is the max aperture range of f/4.5-7.1 compared to constant f/2.8 on the RF 70-200.

I think for her stated objective of taking pics of her kids, the 70-200L would be much better for both the speed and focal length than the 100-500L. It also covers the portrait range which she will use in her home studio. I think I would also go with the RF variant for the lighter weight and better fit to the mirrorless system if money wasn't a driving concern.

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RexTremendae wrote:

Sarah Is Confused wrote:

Hello everyone,

First post here. I have been photographing on my second hand, very beat up, 7D for years and have decided to take the plunge and buy a R6. I'm not very technology minded and having been using the equipment for so long I'm a bit confused about all the different options for cards. Google is telling me I should buy 2 "SanDisk 128GB Extreme Pro 300MB/s UHS-II SDXC Card", would you all agree with this?

An alternative would be something like the Sony Tough CFExpress 128GB. It will give faster write speeds should you want to take advantage of the R6's burst speeds.

The R6 uses two SD UHS-II slots and no CFex slots.

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RexTremendae wrote:

Sarah Is Confused wrote:

Hello everyone,

First post here. I have been photographing on my second hand, very beat up, 7D for years and have decided to take the plunge and buy a R6. I'm not very technology minded and having been using the equipment for so long I'm a bit confused about all the different options for cards. Google is telling me I should buy 2 "SanDisk 128GB Extreme Pro 300MB/s UHS-II SDXC Card", would you all agree with this?

An alternative would be something like the Sony Tough CFExpress 128GB. It will give faster write speeds should you want to take advantage of the R6's burst speeds.

The R6 uses two SD UHS-II slots and no CFex slots.

Oh yeah, my bad! I must have R5 on the brain since I've been waiting on one for over 2 months now... LOL

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Sarah, in contrast to the R5, the R6 uses two SD-card slots...
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...both of which are the faster UHS-II type.. While the non-UHS-II cards will work in your camera, they're significantly slower than UHS-II cards, which are still MUCH slower than the CFexpress cards your camera does NOT use but the R5 does.

I suggest you buy two type-UHS-II cards that are included in the first section of this article...

https://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/sd-memory-card-faq/fastest-memory-card/

...and also this page...

https://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/sd-memory-card-faq/

...if you want to know more about camera memory cards.

I hope you enjoy your new camera.

Also it's my OPINION that if you don't already own an EF-type lens of the length you want, buy the RF version and get higher quality and the convenience of not having to use a lens adapter.. That's certainly what I'm doing with my R5.

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Steve Balcombe Forum Pro • Posts: 14,268
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Master619 wrote:

Sarah Is Confused wrote:

Hello everyone,

First post here. I have been photographing on my second hand, very beat up, 7D for years and have decided to take the plunge and buy a R6. I'm not very technology minded and having been using the equipment for so long I'm a bit confused about all the different options for cards. Google is telling me I should buy 2 "SanDisk 128GB Extreme Pro 300MB/s UHS-II SDXC Card", would you all agree with this?

I'm hoping to purchase a 70-200mm lens later in the year and wasn't sure if I should go for a secondhand (but like new) EF or a new (but with cash back) RF. Does anyone have an opinion on this?

I mostly photograph my children but I'm also taking a video course and plan to use the camera for family films. I also have a set of studio lights that I use for "photoshoots" with my children.

Thank you all so much, all advice is welcome.

"SanDisk 128GB Extreme Pro 300MB/s UHS-II SDXC Card" is a very good card, but if all you will do is photographing your children and family you don't necessarily need it, let alone two of them. One of them will be plentiful, or two 64GB ones if you want the best peace of mind for redundancy. Hell, even one 64GB is a good starting point if you wanna save the money for something else. Of course SD cards are quite cheap nowadays and / or if you have a large budget then sure go for 2 128GB ones.

Yes, but to be more specific...

A UHS-I U3 card, which is *much* cheaper, will handle everything the R6 can throw at it except for one very high quality setting (4K 60 H265 with CLOG and HDR PQ) which you are unlikely to need. If did somehow need that, you would need a V60 card and the Sandisk card you mention falls short of that so for all that extra money you would actually gain nothing at all!

A UHS-I card is also sufficient for most stills shooting needs. In the worst case - shooting RAW plus the highest quality JPEG - you can shoot up to 91 frames before the buffer fills!

I disagree with Master619 in one respect - video eats up storage space so I would go for a couple of 128 GB cards. At the lower UHS-I U3 spec they are much more affordable so there is no need to risk running out of space.

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Sarah Is Confused wrote:

Hello everyone,

First post here. I have been photographing on my second hand, very beat up, 7D for years and have decided to take the plunge and buy a R6. I'm not very technology minded and having been using the equipment for so long I'm a bit confused about all the different options for cards. Google is telling me I should buy 2 "SanDisk 128GB Extreme Pro 300MB/s UHS-II SDXC Card", would you all agree with this?

Depends what you want to do and how tight the budget is.

The two things that require the highest speed are long sustained high speed (high frames per second) bursts of RAW files, and the highest quality video.

If you plan to take long bursts (more than a few seconds) at the maximum 20 frames per second (fps) in full RAW quality then you want a high speed card like the 300Mb/s UHS-II card.

If, however, you are either just using JPEG, or you will never take long bursts (no kid's sports or Birds in Flight) AND the budget is a bit tighter right now, then a Sandisk Extreme Pro 95Mb/s (or 170Mb/s) UHS-I card is probably sufficient.

Also, you only really NEED two cards if you are worried about losing files and plan to write the images to both cards simultaneously (or you just want a spare, which is always sensible, but it doesn't have to be an identical spare). Do you use two cards on your old 7D ?

For video, if you only ever plan to use the lower quality settings like Full HD (1080P), then again, the slower card will be fine. If you plan to use the highest quality 4K, then you may need the fastest card.

As for the size of the card, again it depends on what you want to do. A RAW file on R6 is probably around 30Mb, so a 128Gb card should hold 4,300 full quality RAW photos or maybe 14,000 JPEG photos. Will you ever need that much capacity between opportunities to download the photos ?

Full highest quality 4K video will eat card capacity, so if you are planning to shoot longer videos then more capacity is required.

I'm hoping to purchase a 70-200mm lens later in the year and wasn't sure if I should go for a secondhand (but like new) EF or a new (but with cash back) RF. Does anyone have an opinion on this?

I assume that you are referring to the EF 70-200mm f2.8 ii lens ? There is also a f4 version which is cheaper smaller and lighter.

Again, it depends on budget. As stated above, the RF version has benefits but is likely to cost more than even a good second hand EF f2.8, and a LOT more than a second hand f4 EF lens.

I mostly photograph my children but I'm also taking a video course and plan to use the camera for family films. I also have a set of studio lights that I use for "photoshoots" with my children.

Thank you all so much, all advice is welcome.

Colin

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quiquae Senior Member • Posts: 2,013
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Regarding the 70-200mm lens, I would recommend not going for the RF or EF F2.8L zoom, and getting one of the EF 70-200 F4 variants instead. The F2.8L ones are very nice, but too expensive and (in case of EF) bulky, such that I’m afraid you may find them overspec’ed for your needs as an amateur.

For F4 you have the following choices:

  • EF 70-200F4L IS II: the best of the bunch, and the most expensive
  • EF 70-200F4L IS : cheaper, very recently discontinued, still very good
  • EF 70-200F4L : cheaper still, very recently discontinued, IQ close to par with the IS version; it lacks stabilization, but your R6 conveniently has in-body stabilization
  • Tamron 70-210F4 : as cheap as the unstabilized 70-200F4L; this lens was getting rave reviews when it came out a couple of years ago, but as it is a third-party lens, you should solicit testimony about how well it works with the R6
  • RF 70-200F4? : rumored to be coming this year or next year. You can wait for it, but the problem is that a lens that isn’t in your hands isn’t going to produce photos for you.
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davel33 Senior Member • Posts: 2,164
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Two more things to consider is the RF lens has awesome focus speed and is dead on,  plus the RF lens has 5 stop of IS and at age 70 that helps me a LOT   The focus speed is very noticeable between RF and EF lens's as is the IS.   I would also try to buy RF if you dont already have an EF to cover that spot.

Go to local camera store and compare the two,  also please buy from a local store.

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Steve Balcombe Forum Pro • Posts: 14,268
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Andy01 wrote:

If, however, you are either just using JPEG, or you will never take long bursts (no kid's sports or Birds in Flight) AND the budget is a bit tighter right now, then a Sandisk Extreme Pro 95Mb/s (or 170Mb/s) UHS-I card is probably sufficient.

Absolutely. Even with a UHS-I card you can achieve more than 90 shot bursts. That would surely cover most casual sports shooting!

OP Sarah Is Confused New Member • Posts: 5
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I can't believe how helpful you've all been and it's very much appreciated! Thank you!

Eddie Rizk Contributing Member • Posts: 781
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Sarah Is Confused wrote:

I can't believe how helpful you've all been and it's very much appreciated! Thank you!

You are more than welcome.  People here answered all of my questions, when I was starting out.

Post some pictures, and tell us about your experience with the R6, and we'll be even.

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OP Sarah Is Confused New Member • Posts: 5
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I definitely will! Thanks again everyone 😊

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