Does Godox X1N TTL Flash Trigger Set work with Sony flashes

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Bird Photo New Member • Posts: 12
Does Godox X1N TTL Flash Trigger Set work with Sony flashes

As the title states:

Does Godox X1N TTL Wireless Flash Trigger Set work with sony flashes

From my understanding this answer is YES but I was struggling to confirm that completely.

My HVL20 just died on me and I'd like to now switch to a radio trigger system.  That way I can use both flashes off camera with confidence.  I have a HVL 60 and 43 and want to insure if I got this that it would communicate between both flashes and camera.

From my understanding, radio trigger is better than line of sight because it gives you a more accurate connection/could use it in cause of a large event where I need to set my flash behind subjects or off to the sides of view.

Additionally all my lenses (except one) are manual everything (focus/aperture) so the camera doesn't register the length of course.  Will this cause the trigger not to work or do I just need to manually set it?  With TTL will it still do it's thing or is part of that "thing" having the length of the lens?

Thank you

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sybersitizen Forum Pro • Posts: 18,118
Re: Does Godox X1N TTL Flash Trigger Set work with Sony flashes

Bird Photo wrote:

From my understanding this answer is YES but I was struggling to confirm that completely.

Where did you pick up that info?

The X1N system is for Nikon gear.

My HVL20 just died on me and I'd like to now switch to a radio trigger system. That way I can use both flashes off camera with confidence. I have a HVL 60 and 43 and want to insure if I got this that it would communicate between both flashes and camera.

Look at the Godox triggers and receivers for Sony, like these:

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Controller-Bluetooth-Smartphone-Compatible/dp/B07XCWPR35

From my understanding, radio trigger is better than line of sight because it gives you a more accurate connection/could use it in cause of a large event where I need to set my flash behind subjects or off to the sides of view.

Additionally all my lenses (except one) are manual everything (focus/aperture) so the camera doesn't register the length of course. Will this cause the trigger not to work or do I just need to manually set it? With TTL will it still do it's thing or is part of that "thing" having the length of the lens?

That shouldn't be a problem.

kli
kli Veteran Member • Posts: 3,668
Re: Does Godox X1N TTL Flash Trigger Set work with Sony flashes

Bird Photo wrote:

As the title states:

Does Godox X1N TTL Wireless Flash Trigger Set work with sony flashes

Well, it'll fire any godox-receiver-equipped flashes, but it'd be better to get an X2T-S, XPro-S, or Flashpoint R2 Pro II-S transmitter, so you get remote power/group, TTL, Zoom, and HSS control, too.

The N means "Nikon". If you saw someone posting about using an X1T-N on a Sony camera, check the date. It could be from before Godox came out with Sony-compatible gear.

... I have a HVL 60 and 43 and want to insure if I got this that it would communicate between both flashes and camera.

No. An X1T-S will not communicate directly with an HVL60 or HVL43. The Godox gear uses radio signalling, not Sony's built-in "WL" smart optical wireless system to communicate with off-camera flashes. It's a completely different and incompatible system.

To use legacy Sony speedlights with a Godox transmitter, you have to add X1R-S receivers to the feet of the sony speedlights. I'm not that familiar with Sony speedlights, but they need to use the newer multi-interface hotshoe. If they're the old iISO foot, they'll need MI adapters to use the receivers.

And it may just make more sense to get Godox TT685-S speedlights with built-in Godox radio transceivers for off-camera use, instead.

From my understanding, radio trigger is better than line of sight

Errr... Radio triggers don't require line of sight, is why they're better than optical triggering.

because it gives you a more accurate connection

Not necessarily. Radio can have radio interference issues. Particularly since 2.4 GHz is used by everything these days. But range and reliability are typically better than with optical system, particularly outdoors in bright sunlight.

/could use it in cause of a large event where I need to set my flash behind subjects or off to the sides of view.

True. You do not need visual line-of-sight with radio; radio waves can go through solid objects.

Additionally all my lenses (except one) are manual everything (focus/aperture) so the camera doesn't register the length of course. Will this cause the trigger not to work or do I just need to manually set it?

You won't have auto zoom, but that's about it. You can manually set the zoom if you want.

With TTL will it still do it's thing or is part of that "thing" having the length of the lens?

Not having TTL distance reporting may have an effect on TTL accuracy/consistency. But TTL has bigger problems with Sony and Godox gear. Godox's gear tends to underexpose when used with Sony and apertures wider than f/4.

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OP Bird Photo New Member • Posts: 12
Re: Does Godox X1N TTL Flash Trigger Set work with Sony flashes

sybersitizen wrote:

Bird Photo wrote:

From my understanding this answer is YES but I was struggling to confirm that completely.

Where did you pick up that info?

The X1N system is for Nikon gear.

I copy and pasted the wrong name 😅

My HVL20 just died on me and I'd like to now switch to a radio trigger system. That way I can use both flashes off camera with confidence. I have a HVL 60 and 43 and want to insure if I got this that it would communicate between both flashes and camera.

Look at the Godox triggers and receivers for Sony, like these:

thank you!

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Controller-Bluetooth-Smartphone-Compatible/dp/B07XCWPR35

From my understanding, radio trigger is better than line of sight because it gives you a more accurate connection/could use it in cause of a large event where I need to set my flash behind subjects or off to the sides of view.

Additionally all my lenses (except one) are manual everything (focus/aperture) so the camera doesn't register the length of course. Will this cause the trigger not to work or do I just need to manually set it? With TTL will it still do it's thing or is part of that "thing" having the length of the lens?

That shouldn't be a problem.

perfect I’ll google the right name!

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OP Bird Photo New Member • Posts: 12
Re: Does Godox X1N TTL Flash Trigger Set work with Sony flashes

kli wrote:

Bird Photo wrote:

As the title states:

Does Godox X1N TTL Wireless Flash Trigger Set work with sony flashes

Well, it'll fire any godox-receiver-equipped flashes, but it'd be better to get an X2T-S, XPro-S, or Flashpoint R2 Pro II-S transmitter, so you get remote power/group, TTL, Zoom, and HSS control, too.

The N means "Nikon". If you saw someone posting about using an X1T-N on a Sony camera, check the date. It could be from before Godox came out with Sony-compatible gear.

So I was attempting to copy and paste and didn't realize I had selected the Nikon version instead.

... I have a HVL 60 and 43 and want to insure if I got this that it would communicate between both flashes and camera.

No. An X1T-S will not communicate directly with an HVL60 or HVL43. The Godox gear uses radio signalling, not Sony's built-in "WL" smart optical wireless system to communicate with off-camera flashes. It's a completely different and incompatible system.

To use legacy Sony speedlights with a Godox transmitter, you have to add X1R-S receivers to the feet of the sony speedlights. I'm not that familiar with Sony speedlights, but they need to use the newer multi-interface hotshoe. If they're the old iISO foot, they'll need MI adapters to use the receivers.

And it may just make more sense to get Godox TT685-S speedlights with built-in Godox radio transceivers for off-camera use, instead.

So on further searching, I am looking for a commander and receiver so that whatever commander is on my sony it'll communicate to the sony flashes. I know that even the receiver is wireless but unfortunately I have problems with line of sight and I feel that doing a commander/receiver combo will help eliminate that.

I could just purchase another used HVL 20 but that'll be $90 and i figured I could get a commander/receiver for roughly that price (cheap one at least).

True. You do not need visual line-of-sight with radio; radio waves can go through solid objects.

This is where I'd prefer to not get another line of sight trigger.

A fellow photographer has YongNuo gear but from my understanding that is canon/nikon only and would not work with my sony speedlights??

Thank you for responding!!

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kli
kli Veteran Member • Posts: 3,668
Re: Does Godox X1N TTL Flash Trigger Set work with Sony flashes

Bird Photo wrote:

kli wrote:

So on further searching, I am looking for a commander and receiver so that whatever commander is on my sony it'll communicate to the sony flashes. I know that even the receiver is wireless but unfortunately I have problems with line of sight and I feel that doing a commander/receiver combo will help eliminate that.

Commander/receiver pairings can be either optical or radio. But since your speedlights are not radio-equipped (only the "RM" units are), you have to add a radio receiver onto the foot of each flash, and use a radio transmitter on the camera hotshoe as your commander unit, if you want to do radio.

You can do this with a Godox 2.4 GHz transmitter (X2T-S ($60), Xpro-S, or Flashpoint R2 Pro II-S, $70).

I could just purchase another used HVL 20 but that'll be $90 and i figured I could get a commander/receiver for roughly that price (cheap one at least).

The Godox combo of an X1T-S ($40) and an XPro-S ($70) is about $110.

Cactus V6II transceivers are $90 apiece, so $180.

If you find cheaper radio triggers, like, say, the Yongnuo RF-603 II transceivers, they will be manual only (no TTL, or HSS), no power control, no group control, no camera menu communication (the RF-605s will give you group on/off control, but that's it). They also may not work well in the Sony multi-interface hotshoe.

Yes, a TT685-S and Xpro-S would be $180 as a combo. But consider that the OEM equivalent of a Sony HVL-F60RM ($500) + FA-WRC1M ($350) is going to be $850. As built-in radio flash gear goes, this is the low-cost stuff.

True. You do not need visual line-of-sight with radio; radio waves can go through solid objects.

This is where I'd prefer to not get another line of sight trigger.

Then radio is your best choice. But I would recommend considering selling a Sony speedlight and getting a Godox TT685-S ($110) or TT600S ($65) instead, so you don't have to mess about with an add-on receiver. The TT600S is single-pin manual only on-camera, but the built-in radio transceiver allows for M power control, group control, and and HSS.

And a built-in radio receiver is simply more convenient. You won't forget it if you bring the flash. You don't need additional batteries for it, and it simplifies/speeds up setup and is more robust than sandwiching a receiver between a lightstand and your light.

A fellow photographer has YongNuo gear but from my understanding that is canon/nikon only and would not work with my sony speedlights??

The RT gear is Canon-only. The 622 gear is only Canon and Nikon (although Yongnuo has said they're working on Sony support with the YN-560-TX Pro about a year ago, they haven't yet delivered on that promise, and nobody knows when, if ever, it will arrive. They still haven't released working firmware that allows integration between the older 622/560 gear). The 560/60x gear is single-pin manual only, but can work on Sony to fire a flash remotely.

But if you're already used to a TTL/HSS capable system, such as the Sony "smart" optical wireless system, you may want those same features over radio, particularly remote power/group control and HSS.

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OP Bird Photo New Member • Posts: 12
Re: Does Godox X1N TTL Flash Trigger Set work with Sony flashes

kli wrote:

Commander/receiver pairings can be either optical or radio. But since your speedlights are not radio-equipped (only the "RM" units are), you have to add a radio receiver onto the foot of each flash, and use a radio transmitter on the camera hotshoe as your commander unit, if you want to do radio.

You can do this with a Godox 2.4 GHz transmitter (X2T-S ($60), Xpro-S, or Flashpoint R2 Pro II-S, $70).

Perfect!!  Man I'm sorry it took me a hot minute to understand but I am now at the point of understanding!!

I think I'll depart with the F43 and keep the trusty 60 (had it since 2012??).

I really appreciate your help and this is opening me up to a whole other world!

I feel so dense because I had posed the question but am such a sony fan I couldn't imagine getting something else.  Now I'm kicking myself but thankfully everything is in good condition so I can sell!

I'm excited to be confident in my OCF set up

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kli
kli Veteran Member • Posts: 3,668
Re: Does Godox X1N TTL Flash Trigger Set work with Sony flashes

Bird Photo wrote:

Perfect!! Man I'm sorry it took me a hot minute to understand but I am now at the point of understanding!!

You're welcome, and no worries.  It's a lot of information to swallow and get through at first.

Also, I screwed up in my post. The Godox receiver, if you still want to add that onto the foot of a Sony HVL speedlight, is the X1R-S. The X1T is a transmitter. [facepalm].

I feel so dense because I had posed the question but am such a sony fan I couldn't imagine getting something else.

We all did that. OEM speedlights cost a lot and we get used to them and love them. Looking for an add-on solution rather than a replacement is only natural. And early on when this whole Strobist thing started up in 2006, it was the only way to get one off-camera over radio. But today, cheap 3rd-party controlled speedlights are a thing.

Good luck and welcome to a brighter world!

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