Then, there was one: Sony leaving Brazil

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rhlpetrus Forum Pro • Posts: 26,131
Then, there was one: Sony leaving Brazil
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As I considered starting a ML system, Nikon, my dslr system, left Brazil. I waited a bit, but more and more felt it would make sense to go with either Canon or Sony, as both had good presence in the country, Sony a major player in cameras, video, TV sets, games, etc.

They have just announced they are moving out, including closing a plant that makes TV sets in Manaus, a free-commerce zone.

Brazil’s economic and political situation is a total shame, but we are not the only such country in the Americas, and I include NA in that list.

Anyway, practical issue, it seems it’ll be Canon. Not nice not to have choices.

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LarryRC Contributing Member • Posts: 722
Re: Then, there was one: Sony leaving Brazil

rhlpetrus wrote:

As I considered starting a ML system, Nikon, my dslr system, left Brazil. I waited a bit, but more and more felt it would make sense to go with either Canon or Sony, as both had good presence in the country, Sony a major player in cameras, video, TV sets, games, etc.

They have just announced they are moving out, including closing a plant that makes TV sets in Manaus, a free-commerce zone.

Brazil’s economic and political situation is a total shame, but we are not the only such country in the Americas, and I include NA in that list.

Anyway, practical issue, it seems it’ll be Canon. Not nice not to have choices.

Really sorry to hear that is happening.  With all that is happening to lose more jobs is hard.

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Blame rest with Brazilian Gov. (Insane) manufacturing requirement to sell electronic
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The blame rest entirely with the Brazilian Government.  Brazil has an INSANE local manufacturing requirements on foreign companies to sell electronic.  That means foreign companies must setup expensive local factories just to sell a $100 USD phone. This WAS feasible when HDTV was popular & expensive.  But the HDTV price has fallen through the floor, It no longer makes sense to keep a factory open with hundreds if worker making cheap electronic that no longer sells.

Sony join a long list of Japanese, Chinese, Korean companies pulling out of Brazil.

With less competitors, less consumer choices, price of goods will always increase. Its simple economic that Brazilian politician fail to understand.  While I applaud the intention of manufacturing requirements to keep the locals employed (but) reality often falls short of theoretical.  Like they said, the road to hell đŸ˜ˆ is paved with the good đŸ˜‡intention.

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Austinian
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Re: Then, there was one: Sony leaving Brazil
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rhlpetrus wrote:

As I considered starting a ML system, Nikon, my dslr system, left Brazil. I waited a bit, but more and more felt it would make sense to go with either Canon or Sony, as both had good presence in the country, Sony a major player in cameras, video, TV sets, games, etc.

They have just announced they are moving out, including closing a plant that makes TV sets in Manaus, a free-commerce zone.

Brazil’s economic and political situation is a total shame, but we are not the only such country in the Americas, and I include NA in that list.

Anyway, practical issue, it seems it’ll be Canon. Not nice not to have choices.

If all those other companies are pulling out, I wouldn't count on Canon not following them eventually. Unfortunate situation all around.

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ZilverHaylide Contributing Member • Posts: 663
Re: Then, there was one: Sony leaving Brazil
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So, being abandoned first by Nikon, then by Sony, is that what people mean by "getting a Brazilian"?!

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Re: Blame rest with Brazilian Gov. (Insane) manufacturing requirement to sell electronic
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007peter wrote:

The blame rest entirely with the Brazilian Government. Brazil has an INSANE local manufacturing requirements on foreign companies to sell electronic. That means foreign companies must setup expensive local factories just to sell a $100 USD phone. This WAS feasible when HDTV was popular & expensive. But the HDTV price has fallen through the floor, It no longer makes sense to keep a factory open with hundreds if worker making cheap electronic that no longer sells.

Sony join a long list of Japanese, Chinese, Korean companies pulling out of Brazil.

With less competitors, less consumer choices, price of goods will always increase. Its simple economic that Brazilian politician fail to understand. While I applaud the intention of manufacturing requirements to keep the locals employed (but) reality often falls short of theoretical. Like they said, the road to hell đŸ˜ˆ is paved with the good đŸ˜‡intention.

Basically correct, but not a quick short story. It all started with automakers, just few, building plants here in the 1950’s with a promuse of a closed market. VW, Ford, GM, basically. Then FIAT sqeezed in in the 1970s. Even today, a small group tries to keep the market for themselves, obstructing any attempt for opening the economy. Electronics followed, including computers, etc.

The current pres started promising a change, forget it (besides, he and his family border on the lunatic, following the extreme right in the US, re climate change, vaccines, Covid, etc).

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LarryRC Contributing Member • Posts: 722
Re: Blame rest with Brazilian Gov. (Insane) manufacturing requirement to sell electronic

rhlpetrus wrote:

007peter wrote:

The blame rest entirely with the Brazilian Government. Brazil has an INSANE local manufacturing requirements on foreign companies to sell electronic. That means foreign companies must setup expensive local factories just to sell a $100 USD phone. This WAS feasible when HDTV was popular & expensive. But the HDTV price has fallen through the floor, It no longer makes sense to keep a factory open with hundreds if worker making cheap electronic that no longer sells.

Sony join a long list of Japanese, Chinese, Korean companies pulling out of Brazil.

With less competitors, less consumer choices, price of goods will always increase. Its simple economic that Brazilian politician fail to understand. While I applaud the intention of manufacturing requirements to keep the locals employed (but) reality often falls short of theoretical. Like they said, the road to hell đŸ˜ˆ is paved with the good đŸ˜‡intention.

Basically correct, but not a quick short story. It all started with automakers, just few, building plants here in the 1950’s with a promuse of a closed market. VW, Ford, GM, basically. Then FIAT sqeezed in in the 1970s. Even today, a small group tries to keep the market for themselves, obstructing any attempt for opening the economy. Electronics followed, including computers, etc.

The current pres started promising a change, forget it (besides, he and his family border on the lunatic, following the extreme right in the US, re climate change, vaccines, Covid, etc).

Sorry to hear that. I still have tickets to visit Brazil in Nov and Dec. Im afraid it wont happen as the flights arent even happening at present. Not just sorry i cant visit but for the popke of Brazil given what is happening.  I lived in the Andes of Venezuela for almost a decade before that government was destroyed causing much hardship.

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Photo Pete Veteran Member • Posts: 5,423
Re: Then, there was one: Sony leaving Brazil

ZilverHaylide wrote:

So, being abandoned first by Nikon, then by Sony, is that what people mean by "getting a Brazilian"?!

I’m not sure it is appropriate making jokes of a situation like this. What are you... some sort of Brazil Nut?

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Re: Blame rest with Brazilian Gov. (Insane) manufacturing requirement to sell electronic
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LarryRC wrote:

rhlpetrus wrote:

007peter wrote:

The blame rest entirely with the Brazilian Government. Brazil has an INSANE local manufacturing requirements on foreign companies to sell electronic. That means foreign companies must setup expensive local factories just to sell a $100 USD phone. This WAS feasible when HDTV was popular & expensive. But the HDTV price has fallen through the floor, It no longer makes sense to keep a factory open with hundreds if worker making cheap electronic that no longer sells.

Sony join a long list of Japanese, Chinese, Korean companies pulling out of Brazil.

With less competitors, less consumer choices, price of goods will always increase. Its simple economic that Brazilian politician fail to understand. While I applaud the intention of manufacturing requirements to keep the locals employed (but) reality often falls short of theoretical. Like they said, the road to hell đŸ˜ˆ is paved with the good đŸ˜‡intention.

Basically correct, but not a quick short story. It all started with automakers, just few, building plants here in the 1950’s with a promuse of a closed market. VW, Ford, GM, basically. Then FIAT sqeezed in in the 1970s. Even today, a small group tries to keep the market for themselves, obstructing any attempt for opening the economy. Electronics followed, including computers, etc.

The current pres started promising a change, forget it (besides, he and his family border on the lunatic, following the extreme right in the US, re climate change, vaccines, Covid, etc).

Sorry to hear that. I still have tickets to visit Brazil in Nov and Dec. Im afraid it wont happen as the flights arent even happening at present. Not just sorry i cant visit but for the popke of Brazil given what is happening. I lived in the Andes of Venezuela for almost a decade before that government was destroyed causing much hardship.

I think traveling long flights will be safe only after a vaccine is in place, at least that’s my and my family’s view, as Brazil and the US still have a pandemic out of control, and Europe is undergoing an expected ressurgence of cases. What did people expected, really? This virus has zero seasonal pattern, just strict isolation now and a vaccine next can keep it under control.

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