Anybody using the R5 Clarity adjustment?

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poppyjk
poppyjk Contributing Member • Posts: 892
Anybody using the R5 Clarity adjustment?

I have been trying to maximize in camera jpg image quality/sharpness while using the EF 100-400 v2 on the R5 with 1.4X and 2X TC.

Today I added +2 Clarity and like it in addition to Fine Detail Picture Style at default; Peripheral illum corr - ON, Distortion correction - ON, Digital Lens Optimizer - Standard; Auto Lighting Optimizer - Standard.

Interested in hearing other peoples' settings with TC's on the EF 100-400 v2 or with TC's in general.

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Amir Menahem Forum Member • Posts: 59
Re: Anybody using the R5 Clarity adjustment?

The clarity effects the raw files?

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Re: Anybody using the R5 Clarity adjustment?

Amir Menahem wrote:

The clarity effects the raw files?

If you open raw files in DPP you will see the same settings as applied in camera.

I've been having good results with Clarity +1 and Saturation +1 in camera in Standard Profile.

I wish I could add clarity in DPP to my older raw files.

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Zeee Forum Pro • Posts: 21,949
Re: Anybody using the R5 Clarity adjustment?
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I don't do any in camera settings because it can low it down.

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Actual burst length with my JPG settings
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Zeee wrote:

I don't do any in camera settings because it can low it down.

When recording RAW + large fine JPG to the CFExpress card with the settings I listed and H+ 12fps I get 133 shots before the camera slows. The manual lists 160 shots as the theoretical maximum.

With recording separately RAW to CFExpress and large fine JPG to SD UHS II with the settings I listed and drive mode set to H+12fps, I get 92 shots before the camera slows.

Recording large fine JPG's only with my settings to the SD UHS II I got 354 shots at H+ 12fps before the camera slowed. The Manual says to expect 190 shots in the burst of large fine JPG's to a SD card. I suppose the Manual was referring to SD UHS I performance.

I don't see the problem of the processor being slowed down with my JPG settings. So I won't worry about it versus the clear advantage of the comprehensive in camera JPG processing.

Canon has put a magnificent processor in the R5.

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Adam2 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,982
Re: Anybody using the R5 Clarity adjustment?

Chris Jacobs wrote:

Amir Menahem wrote:

The clarity effects the raw files?

If you open raw files in DPP you will see the same settings as applied in camera.

I've been having good results with Clarity +1 and Saturation +1 in camera in Standard Profile.

I wish I could add clarity in DPP to my older raw files.

What’s the point when shooting RAW?  None that I see as the clarity is added in post and that can be accomplished with any PP software.

Zeee Forum Pro • Posts: 21,949
Re: Actual burst length with my JPG settings

poppyjk wrote:

Zeee wrote:

I don't do any in camera settings because it can low it down.

When recording RAW + large fine JPG to the CFExpress card with the settings I listed and H+ 12fps I get 133 shots before the camera slows. The manual lists 160 shots as the theoretical maximum.

With recording separately RAW to CFExpress and large fine JPG to SD UHS II with the settings I listed and drive mode set to H+12fps, I get 92 shots before the camera slows.

Recording large fine JPG's only with my settings to the SD UHS II I got 354 shots at H+ 12fps before the camera slowed. The Manual says to expect 190 shots in the burst of large fine JPG's to a SD card. I suppose the Manual was referring to SD UHS I performance.

I don't see the problem of the processor being slowed down with my JPG settings. So I won't worry about it versus the clear advantage of the comprehensive in camera JPG processing.

Canon has put a magnificent processor in the R5.

I can hardly wait to get mine. Should be within 10 days. Good info however I don’t use DPP so it doesn’t really matter. If I did I’d probably still do it all in DPP but that is just me.

I always use DPP to cull before importing to LR. I noticed that even if NR is turned off in camera DPP applies it.

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Chris Jacobs
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Re: Anybody using the R5 Clarity adjustment?

Adam2 wrote:

Chris Jacobs wrote:

Amir Menahem wrote:

The clarity effects the raw files?

If you open raw files in DPP you will see the same settings as applied in camera.

I've been having good results with Clarity +1 and Saturation +1 in camera in Standard Profile.

I wish I could add clarity in DPP to my older raw files.

What’s the point when shooting RAW? None that I see as the clarity is added in post and that can be accomplished with any PP software.

If you open raw files in DPP you will see the same settings as applied in camera.

Saves me a step in processing later.

Also, if I transfer from my camera to phone the images are already slightly processed which is nice. I don't think you can process them in camera after it's taken.

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stevvi Contributing Member • Posts: 720
Re: Anybody using the R5 Clarity adjustment?

Chris Jacobs wrote:

Adam2 wrote:

Chris Jacobs wrote:

Amir Menahem wrote:

The clarity effects the raw files?

If you open raw files in DPP you will see the same settings as applied in camera.

I've been having good results with Clarity +1 and Saturation +1 in camera in Standard Profile.

I wish I could add clarity in DPP to my older raw files.

What’s the point when shooting RAW? None that I see as the clarity is added in post and that can be accomplished with any PP software.

If you open raw files in DPP you will see the same settings as applied in camera.

Saves me a step in processing later.

Also, if I transfer from my camera to phone the images are already slightly processed which is nice. I don't think you can process them in camera after it's taken.

You can process RAW in camera to jpeg or heif, clarity included if you so wish. "Play" menu, tab 3.

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Re: Actual burst length with my JPG settings
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Zeee wrote:

poppyjk wrote:

Zeee wrote:

I don't do any in camera settings because it can low it down.

When recording RAW + large fine JPG to the CFExpress card with the settings I listed and H+ 12fps I get 133 shots before the camera slows. The manual lists 160 shots as the theoretical maximum.

With recording separately RAW to CFExpress and large fine JPG to SD UHS II with the settings I listed and drive mode set to H+12fps, I get 92 shots before the camera slows.

Recording large fine JPG's only with my settings to the SD UHS II I got 354 shots at H+ 12fps before the camera slowed. The Manual says to expect 190 shots in the burst of large fine JPG's to a SD card. I suppose the Manual was referring to SD UHS I performance.

I don't see the problem of the processor being slowed down with my JPG settings. So I won't worry about it versus the clear advantage of the comprehensive in camera JPG processing.

Canon has put a magnificent processor in the R5.

I can hardly wait to get mine. Should be within 10 days. Good info however I don’t use DPP so it doesn’t really matter. If I did I’d probably still do it all in DPP but that is just me.

I always use DPP to cull before importing to LR. I noticed that even if NR is turned off in camera DPP applies it.

Confusing!

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Zeee Forum Pro • Posts: 21,949
Re: Actual burst length with my JPG settings

stevvi wrote:

Zeee wrote:

poppyjk wrote:

Zeee wrote:

I don't do any in camera settings because it can low it down.

When recording RAW + large fine JPG to the CFExpress card with the settings I listed and H+ 12fps I get 133 shots before the camera slows. The manual lists 160 shots as the theoretical maximum.

With recording separately RAW to CFExpress and large fine JPG to SD UHS II with the settings I listed and drive mode set to H+12fps, I get 92 shots before the camera slows.

Recording large fine JPG's only with my settings to the SD UHS II I got 354 shots at H+ 12fps before the camera slowed. The Manual says to expect 190 shots in the burst of large fine JPG's to a SD card. I suppose the Manual was referring to SD UHS I performance.

I don't see the problem of the processor being slowed down with my JPG settings. So I won't worry about it versus the clear advantage of the comprehensive in camera JPG processing.

Canon has put a magnificent processor in the R5.

I can hardly wait to get mine. Should be within 10 days. Good info however I don’t use DPP so it doesn’t really matter. If I did I’d probably still do it all in DPP but that is just me.

I always use DPP to cull before importing to LR. I noticed that even if NR is turned off in camera DPP applies it.

Confusing!

What part? I don't use DPP to edit so applying in camera settings like Clarity does not matter as LR won't recognize them.

I do use DPP to pre-edit or cull. Whatever you want to call it. I use Quick Check - Full Screen. The reason is DPP's downsizing algorithm for 'fit to screen' display is very good and contrasty which creates the illusion of sharpness. Here I delete unwanted and unusable files. When done then I import into LR.

I have in Camera NR (high ISO and long exposure) set to off. When I open a file in DPP basic NR is applied because I set up that way in the preferences. I could shut it off in the preferences but it wouldn't matter because basic NR is applied automatically, in the RAW Data and we can't control that. Unless I'm missing something we can't shut NR off completely in the camera.

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stevvi Contributing Member • Posts: 720
Re: Actual burst length with my JPG settings
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Zeee wrote:

stevvi wrote:

Zeee wrote:

poppyjk wrote:

Zeee wrote:

I don't do any in camera settings because it can low it down.

When recording RAW + large fine JPG to the CFExpress card with the settings I listed and H+ 12fps I get 133 shots before the camera slows. The manual lists 160 shots as the theoretical maximum.

With recording separately RAW to CFExpress and large fine JPG to SD UHS II with the settings I listed and drive mode set to H+12fps, I get 92 shots before the camera slows.

Recording large fine JPG's only with my settings to the SD UHS II I got 354 shots at H+ 12fps before the camera slowed. The Manual says to expect 190 shots in the burst of large fine JPG's to a SD card. I suppose the Manual was referring to SD UHS I performance.

I don't see the problem of the processor being slowed down with my JPG settings. So I won't worry about it versus the clear advantage of the comprehensive in camera JPG processing.

Canon has put a magnificent processor in the R5.

I can hardly wait to get mine. Should be within 10 days. Good info however I don’t use DPP so it doesn’t really matter. If I did I’d probably still do it all in DPP but that is just me.

I always use DPP to cull before importing to LR. I noticed that even if NR is turned off in camera DPP applies it.

Confusing!

What part? I don't use DPP to edit so applying in camera settings like Clarity does not matter as LR won't recognize them.

I do use DPP to pre-edit or cull. Whatever you want to call it. I use Quick Check - Full Screen. The reason is DPP's downsizing algorithm for 'fit to screen' display is very good and contrasty which creates the illusion of sharpness. Here I delete unwanted and unusable files. When done then I import into LR.

I have in Camera NR (high ISO and long exposure) set to off. When I open a file in DPP basic NR is applied because I set up that way in the preferences. I could shut it off in the preferences but it wouldn't matter because basic NR is applied automatically, in the RAW Data and we can't control that. Unless I'm missing something we can't shut NR off completely in the camera.

It was confusing that, in one paragraph, you state you don't use DPP and then in the next you state you do use DPP. Now you've clarified that you use DPP as an image (pre)viewer and not an editor, it makes sense.

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Zeee Forum Pro • Posts: 21,949
Re: Actual burst length with my JPG settings
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stevvi wrote:

Zeee wrote:

stevvi wrote:

Zeee wrote:

poppyjk wrote:

Zeee wrote:

I don't do any in camera settings because it can low it down.

When recording RAW + large fine JPG to the CFExpress card with the settings I listed and H+ 12fps I get 133 shots before the camera slows. The manual lists 160 shots as the theoretical maximum.

With recording separately RAW to CFExpress and large fine JPG to SD UHS II with the settings I listed and drive mode set to H+12fps, I get 92 shots before the camera slows.

Recording large fine JPG's only with my settings to the SD UHS II I got 354 shots at H+ 12fps before the camera slowed. The Manual says to expect 190 shots in the burst of large fine JPG's to a SD card. I suppose the Manual was referring to SD UHS I performance.

I don't see the problem of the processor being slowed down with my JPG settings. So I won't worry about it versus the clear advantage of the comprehensive in camera JPG processing.

Canon has put a magnificent processor in the R5.

I can hardly wait to get mine. Should be within 10 days. Good info however I don’t use DPP so it doesn’t really matter. If I did I’d probably still do it all in DPP but that is just me.

I always use DPP to cull before importing to LR. I noticed that even if NR is turned off in camera DPP applies it.

Confusing!

What part? I don't use DPP to edit so applying in camera settings like Clarity does not matter as LR won't recognize them.

I do use DPP to pre-edit or cull. Whatever you want to call it. I use Quick Check - Full Screen. The reason is DPP's downsizing algorithm for 'fit to screen' display is very good and contrasty which creates the illusion of sharpness. Here I delete unwanted and unusable files. When done then I import into LR.

I have in Camera NR (high ISO and long exposure) set to off. When I open a file in DPP basic NR is applied because I set up that way in the preferences. I could shut it off in the preferences but it wouldn't matter because basic NR is applied automatically, in the RAW Data and we can't control that. Unless I'm missing something we can't shut NR off completely in the camera.

It was confusing that, in one paragraph, you state you don't use DPP and then in the next you state you do use DPP. Now you've clarified that you use DPP as an image (pre)viewer and not an editor, it makes sense.

I see. Sorry about that.

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souvikdgp Regular Member • Posts: 183
Re: Anybody using the R5 Clarity adjustment?

I own R6 and I applied clarity +2 in DPP in couple of occasions. But images were too saturated to my linking. So have stopped using it. May be R5 has better results with clarity settings.

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