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Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original

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pbm2 Regular Member • Posts: 167
Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original

I currently have three E-M1 bodies (original).  I do almost all portrait and model work.  But as the new bodies are coming out some older bodies are lowering in price (EM5 II).  Is it time to move along?  I have ten lenses, a E-PL1 and E-PL9, so I am vested in the Olympus line and not looking to move away from Olympus yet.  Oh, and I do not have the financial resources to go to the newer E-M1's.  There is nothing wrong with my gear, other than getting old.  Thoughts are greatly appreciated!

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Overrank
Overrank Senior Member • Posts: 5,465
Re: Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original

pbm2 wrote:

I currently have three E-M1 bodies (original). I do almost all portrait and model work. But as the new bodies are coming out some older bodies are lowering in price (EM5 II). Is it time to move along? I have ten lenses, a E-PL1 and E-PL9, so I am vested in the Olympus line and not looking to move away from Olympus yet. Oh, and I do not have the financial resources to go to the newer E-M1's. There is nothing wrong with my gear, other than getting old. Thoughts are greatly appreciated!

What do you expect to gain through moving to newer equipment ? I apart from the high res shot mode on the EM5 it doesn’t offer many advantages, and I wouldn’t expect that was particularly useful for portraiture

Skeeterbytes Forum Pro • Posts: 23,186
Re: Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original
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I shot a few years with a pair of E-M1s, then swapped in an E-M1ii and found it was better at everything, so replaced the second E-M1 with the newer model.

If you try one you'll quickly find an E-M1ii (or M1iii) is your new favorite camera. The only downsides are a different battery and the FAS for folks who prefer the simple flip display.

Cheers

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OP pbm2 Regular Member • Posts: 167
Re: Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original
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What to gain? newer technology? Honestly I haven't found much reason to move along, other than the fact they are getting old.  One body has over 70k... I just wasn't sure I was missing something.  The M10 IV offers a sensor to the Pen-f.  I had a M10 II and really liked it till the shutter died.

OP pbm2 Regular Member • Posts: 167
Re: Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original

Skeeterbytes wrote:

I shot a few years with a pair of E-M1s, then swapped in an E-M1ii and found it was better at everything, so replaced the second E-M1 with the newer model.

If you try one you'll quickly find an E-M1ii (or M1iii) is your new favorite camera. The only downsides are a different battery and the FAS for folks who prefer the simple flip display.

Cheers

Rick

My two reasons not to jump to E-M1 II is battery ( I have a lot of batteries which would work with a M5 II) and price.  Any of the E-M1's beyond the original are too far out of my price range... I am thinking that I am best off where I am with the bodies.

Jer81 Regular Member • Posts: 351
Re: Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original

pbm2 wrote:

I currently have three E-M1 bodies (original). I do almost all portrait and model work. But as the new bodies are coming out some older bodies are lowering in price (EM5 II). Is it time to move along? I have ten lenses, a E-PL1 and E-PL9, so I am vested in the Olympus line and not looking to move away from Olympus yet. Oh, and I do not have the financial resources to go to the newer E-M1's. There is nothing wrong with my gear, other than getting old. Thoughts are greatly appreciated!

If you live in Europe get a E-M1 Mark II for about €1300 euro new from a official dealer. Claim your free f/1.2 prime and sell it for €700 or more. That way ithe new body will cost you only €600.

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Bassam Guy Veteran Member • Posts: 4,890
Re: Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original

pbm2 wrote:

Skeeterbytes wrote:

I shot a few years with a pair of E-M1s, then swapped in an E-M1ii and found it was better at everything, so replaced the second E-M1 with the newer model.

If you try one you'll quickly find an E-M1ii (or M1iii) is your new favorite camera. The only downsides are a different battery and the FAS for folks who prefer the simple flip display.

Cheers

Rick

My two reasons not to jump to E-M1 II is battery ( I have a lot of batteries which would work with a M5 II) and price. Any of the E-M1's beyond the original are too far out of my price range... I am thinking that I am best off where I am with the bodies.

I think the M5 II, unless considering Panasonic, would be your most sensible step. For portraiture alone, there is little to gain from the M5 II except, maybe, a lower shutter release count. Model work, however, could demand some capabilities the M4 II has that the M1 I does not have.

I don't know the M1 1 enough to know what it lacks that the Mr II provides, so I guess there's no reason for my post. Oh, well. I've gone and posted it. So there.

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OP pbm2 Regular Member • Posts: 167
Re: Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original

Interesting thought... but I am in the USA.

Herrbill Regular Member • Posts: 263
Re: Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original
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For your type of photography, I would stick with with what you have. I used the mark 1 up to recently and was very pleased with its performance. I moved up to the mark iii because I needed better focusing for BIF.

Cheers

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shinndigg Veteran Member • Posts: 4,690
Have you considered selling...
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Some of your equipment? Keh, Roberts (used photo pro), mpb, precision camera all purchase used equipment. And you can get something newer.

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OP pbm2 Regular Member • Posts: 167
Re: Have you considered selling...

shinndigg wrote:

Some of your equipment? Keh, Roberts (used photo pro), mpb, precision camera all purchase used equipment. And you can get something newer.

Oh yes... I am fairly versed on eBay... and Olympus does offer a trade program... If I did upgrade I would be selling...

shinndigg Veteran Member • Posts: 4,690
Or...

http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/e-m10-mark-iii.html

EM 10 Mk III for $379

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Overrank
Overrank Senior Member • Posts: 5,465
Re: Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original

It is just a tool wrote:

pbm2 wrote:

I currently have three E-M1 bodies (original). I do almost all portrait and model work. But as the new bodies are coming out some older bodies are lowering in price (EM5 II). Is it time to move along? I have ten lenses, a E-PL1 and E-PL9, so I am vested in the Olympus line and not looking to move away from Olympus yet. Oh, and I do not have the financial resources to go to the newer E-M1's. There is nothing wrong with my gear, other than getting old. Thoughts are greatly appreciated!

If you live in Europe get a E-M1 Mark II for about €1300 euro new from a official dealer. Claim your free f/1.2 prime and sell it for €700 or more. That way ithe new body will cost you only €600.

Of course with a glut of new f/1.2s coming into the market the price might go down in the next few weeks

Overrank
Overrank Senior Member • Posts: 5,465
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pbm2 wrote:

What to gain? newer technology? Honestly I haven't found much reason to move along, other than the fact they are getting old. One body has over 70k... I just wasn't sure I was missing something. The M10 IV offers a sensor to the Pen-f. I had a M10 II and really liked it till the shutter died.

Apart from the weather sealing, AF and (probably) build quality the EM10 mk ii and EM1 Mk i are not a million miles apart, and a low shutter count EM10 is <£200

Jer81 Regular Member • Posts: 351
Re: Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original

Overrank wrote:

It is just a tool wrote:

pbm2 wrote:

I currently have three E-M1 bodies (original). I do almost all portrait and model work. But as the new bodies are coming out some older bodies are lowering in price (EM5 II). Is it time to move along? I have ten lenses, a E-PL1 and E-PL9, so I am vested in the Olympus line and not looking to move away from Olympus yet. Oh, and I do not have the financial resources to go to the newer E-M1's. There is nothing wrong with my gear, other than getting old. Thoughts are greatly appreciated!

If you live in Europe get a E-M1 Mark II for about €1300 euro new from a official dealer. Claim your free f/1.2 prime and sell it for €700 or more. That way ithe new body will cost you only €600.

Of course with a glut of new f/1.2s coming into the market the price might go down in the next few weeks

Are there any signs of new f/1.2 primes?

What could they improve? Possible Sync IS?

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ahaslett
ahaslett Forum Pro • Posts: 12,662
Re: Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original

I finally upgraded my EM1.1 to EM1.2 last November, grey market for £760.  I was amazed by the difference in IQ from RAW.  Having already owned an A7R2 for a couple of years, I had not expected such a visible step up - 20Mpix plays 42Mpix etc etc

The AF, controls etc are also much better and it does pixel shift Hi-Res, which can be useful. It really is a great camera.

Given the stock clearance Olympus seem to be having on EM1.2 in Europe, maybe your opportunity will come.  I’d be happy to buy used in the U.K. from a reputable dealer but grey market was cheaper with a better guarantee.

Andrew

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Skeeterbytes Forum Pro • Posts: 23,186
Re: Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original

It is just a tool wrote:

Overrank wrote:

It is just a tool wrote:

pbm2 wrote:

I currently have three E-M1 bodies (original). I do almost all portrait and model work. But as the new bodies are coming out some older bodies are lowering in price (EM5 II). Is it time to move along? I have ten lenses, a E-PL1 and E-PL9, so I am vested in the Olympus line and not looking to move away from Olympus yet. Oh, and I do not have the financial resources to go to the newer E-M1's. There is nothing wrong with my gear, other than getting old. Thoughts are greatly appreciated!

If you live in Europe get a E-M1 Mark II for about €1300 euro new from a official dealer. Claim your free f/1.2 prime and sell it for €700 or more. That way ithe new body will cost you only €600.

Of course with a glut of new f/1.2s coming into the market the price might go down in the next few weeks

Are there any signs of new f/1.2 primes?

What could they improve? Possible Sync IS?

Nah, wishful thinking. No glut looms and certainly no design refreshes. Still rumors of a 12/1.2 yet to come. We'll see about that I suppose.

Cheers,

Rick

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Grimstod Contributing Member • Posts: 598
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I have just upgraded from the EM1 to the new EM1.2 and I must say that the original camera met all my daytime photography needs but for astrophotography I wish I had upgraded earlier. I am now testing an Em1.3 on lone from Olympus.

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Overrank
Overrank Senior Member • Posts: 5,465
Re: Is it time to upgrade from the E-M1 original

It is just a tool wrote:

Overrank wrote:

It is just a tool wrote:

pbm2 wrote:

I currently have three E-M1 bodies (original). I do almost all portrait and model work. But as the new bodies are coming out some older bodies are lowering in price (EM5 II). Is it time to move along? I have ten lenses, a E-PL1 and E-PL9, so I am vested in the Olympus line and not looking to move away from Olympus yet. Oh, and I do not have the financial resources to go to the newer E-M1's. There is nothing wrong with my gear, other than getting old. Thoughts are greatly appreciated!

If you live in Europe get a E-M1 Mark II for about €1300 euro new from a official dealer. Claim your free f/1.2 prime and sell it for €700 or more. That way ithe new body will cost you only €600.

Of course with a glut of new f/1.2s coming into the market the price might go down in the next few weeks

Are there any signs of new f/1.2 primes?

What could they improve? Possible Sync IS?

I mean the ones people have got free being sold to cover the cost of the EM1 mk ii (See two para above)

john isaacs Veteran Member • Posts: 8,444
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pbm2 wrote:

I currently have three E-M1 bodies (original). I do almost all portrait and model work. But as the new bodies are coming out some older bodies are lowering in price (EM5 II). Is it time to move along? I have ten lenses, a E-PL1 and E-PL9, so I am vested in the Olympus line and not looking to move away from Olympus yet. Oh, and I do not have the financial resources to go to the newer E-M1's. There is nothing wrong with my gear, other than getting old. Thoughts are greatly appreciated!

I would not "upgrade" from an E-M1 to an E-M5mkII.  I had two E-M1's and an E-M5mkII.  The E-M5mkII was an upgrade from an E-M5, and that was one of the best upgrades you could do, primarily because it got anti-shock and electronic shutter and much better ergonomics with the function buttons.

The E-M1's simply have better continuous AF, and for some modeling work that is necessary.  The E-M1 also has a well placed Fn1 button which I use as Set Home function.  This can be used to switch positions of the AF target when rotating the camera between portrait and landscape orientation.  These two features, in my opinion, make the E-M1 a much better camera for portrait and model shooting.

I kept the E-M5mkII because I like using it with the f/1.8 primes; it's a much smaller package.  The fact that it used the same batteries as the E-M1 was a plus.  I took an E-M5mkII and E-M1 on a 3-week trip to Colorado and China; in Colorado the E-M1 shutter failed and I shot the entire China portion with the E-M5mkII.  But I had no big lenses on that trip.

The optimal upgrade from an E-M1 is to an E-M1mkII.  I bought one E-M1mkII, and liked it so much I bought a second and sold both of my E-M1's.  It's a bit bigger, doesn't take the viewfinder accessories, but the batteries are much better, the flash is much better, and C-AF is so much better I can use that camera for much of my sports and wildlife shooting.

I would recommend that you upgrade one of your E-M1's to an E-M1mkII.  I bet that you will be convinced to find resources to upgrade more.

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