Could switch back to Fuji

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Rico Schiekel
Rico Schiekel Regular Member • Posts: 411
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Ah, just forgot. I'm also quite happy with the 28mm f/2.8 AI-s (or AI) on the FTZ.

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MSullivan Regular Member • Posts: 197
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The one thing that is certain is that the minute you switch back Nikon will immediately announce the 28.

Most likely the 28 will be f/2 or f/2.8. A 28 f/4 prime makes little sense.

The current roadmap goes through the end of 2021, so they should arrive sometime in the next 14 months.

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sdias Contributing Member • Posts: 505
Re: Could switch back to Fuji

vegetaleb wrote:

Though I am starting to think I will have to go back to Fuji, this is why:

Which Fuji lens would you go back to if you go back to Fuji to provide a 28mm FOV? Is it the 18mm f/2?

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OP vegetaleb Senior Member • Posts: 2,495
Re: Could switch back to Fuji

sdias wrote:

vegetaleb wrote:

Though I am starting to think I will have to go back to Fuji, this is why:

Which Fuji lens would you go back to if you go back to Fuji to provide a 28mm FOV? Is it the 18mm f/2?

The x100v + WCL 28mm adapter

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James Stirling
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Re: significant in one direction, not the other

peripheralfocus wrote:

James Stirling wrote:

I disagree the difference between 24mm and 28mm is quite significant , whether you are shooting a confined space or want a broader view on a landscape .

Jim, I agree with you that the difference is significant when you want to go wider -- i.e. when the problem is that the 28mm isn't wide enough.

But in the other direction -- i.e. when you want the narrower AOV of a 28mm and all you have in your bag is a 24mm -- I don't see a big practical difference. Just shoot with the 24mm and crop out the extra bits you don't need, or, as was suggested, step forward a meter or two.

On a 24-megapixel camera, cropping 12% (horizontal AOV) out of an image to give the field of view of a 28mm lens has a very small downside, IMO, unless you are making very big enlargements and inspecting them (too) closely.

When I bought a 24-megapixel camera, which has a lot of surplus resolution for my needs, I began planning my prime lens purchases with cropping in mind. So a 28mm lens is really two lenses in my mind -- a 28mm and, via cropping, a 35mm.

To me, this practical implication is one of the seldom mentioned advantages of the high resolutions that the megapixel race begat.

True as a landscape guy I tend to think of the wide part more

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sdias Contributing Member • Posts: 505
Re: Could switch back to Fuji

vegetaleb wrote:

sdias wrote:

vegetaleb wrote:

Though I am starting to think I will have to go back to Fuji, this is why:

Which Fuji lens would you go back to if you go back to Fuji to provide a 28mm FOV? Is it the 18mm f/2?

The x100v + WCL 28mm adapter

OK, thanks, yes that's certainly compact. The Nikon Z6 with any lens is a different camera. Not sure you could get that level of compact/light weight combo from Nikon.

Just a thought only, the Iphone 11 camera is about 26mm, as a stop gap until a 28mm eventuates.

NCB Senior Member • Posts: 1,580
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The Z50 + 16-50 would take you back to APS-C, and is small, light and excellent quality.

The 16-50 is 24-75 equivalent so does your required 28mm with no problem.

It means you can stick with the Z ecosystem.

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Cetsix Junior Member • Posts: 44
Re: significant in one direction, not the other

I agree. And the OP think that the Z6 has a much better IQ, i think there is room for some crops.

"I have the Z6 with 24-70 f4 and 35 f1.8 S since March, I am very satisfied by the IQ of the Z6 and its lenses, I could never reach this level of details with the Fuji X-T3 and X-T20 I had before even with the legendary 16 f1.4."

YetAnotherUnsername Regular Member • Posts: 373
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Damn, this is an expensive journey for one focal length. Getting a used Nikkor 28mm 1.4 or 1.8 prime woth an adapter could be a good option if you're desperate for the focal length.

Another option could be to pick up a used Fuji X10 or X70, which gives you a portable 27mm equivalent.

Selling your Nikon Z gear to buy a Fuji X100 seems like an expensive way to limit the kind of photos you can take.

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YetAnotherUnsername Regular Member • Posts: 373
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Or a used Ricoh GR

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KR Photo Contributing Member • Posts: 978
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DaveR43 wrote:

Maybe keep an eye out for a low use 24-50 zoom being sold from a Z 5 kit?

Or buy the 24-50 anyway, if you can get hold of one.

Light, small, covers the range you are interested in, no need for FTZ.

As a stop-gap until the 28 mm arrives.

Exactly what I am doing, and I also own the 24-70 f/4.

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vegetaleb wrote:

goldaccess wrote:

Since nobody knows when you'd get the 28mm you might be better served elsewhere.

(Though I wonder what you have actually though back in March because there's no dated printed on the roadmap.)

People kept saying that the 24-70 f4 is light and small while it's neither in my personal opinion after real usage, unfortunately there are no rental service for cameras in my country

I switch from Fuji X-H1 with 16-55mm f2.8 and my Z6 with 24-70mm f4 for sure is lighter and more comfortable to carry around. If you came from an X-T3 with 18-55mm, you may have a valid point ...

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Ruekon Senior Member • Posts: 1,604
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Well, you bought into a closed system (at least so far). Imho Nikon should have skipped the 24-50/4-6.3 and put more effort into the 28mm instead. If sufficiently fast, the 28mm could have been a killer kit lens for the Z5 -- maybe along with a programmable control ring and some digital zoom in the firmware.

Which lenses did you exactly have with Fuji (note that 24mm and 35mm have a different field of view with full frame)?

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Re: Could switch back to Fuji

Ruekon wrote:

Well, you bought into a closed system (at least so far). Imho Nikon should have skipped the 24-50/4-6.3 and put more effort into the 28mm instead. If sufficiently fast, the 28mm could have been a killer kit lens for the Z5 -- maybe along with a programmable control ring and some digital zoom in the firmware.

Which lenses did you exactly have with Fuji (note that 24mm and 35mm have a different field of view with full frame)?

The xf 23 f2 and xf 16 f1.4

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Brian Homer
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vegetaleb wrote:

Ruekon wrote:

Well, you bought into a closed system (at least so far). Imho Nikon should have skipped the 24-50/4-6.3 and put more effort into the 28mm instead. If sufficiently fast, the 28mm could have been a killer kit lens for the Z5 -- maybe along with a programmable control ring and some digital zoom in the firmware.

Which lenses did you exactly have with Fuji (note that 24mm and 35mm have a different field of view with full frame)?

The xf 23 f2 and xf 16 f1.4

Given your desire for a 28mm you didn't actually have a 28mm equivalent in Fuji then? As 23 = 35 and 16=24.

I'm perfectly happy with my 28mm F 1.8 G lens on the FTZ.  The 28mm Z on the roadmap isn't an S lens but I guess I'll get one as it should be compact and 28mm is my favourite street/documentary foal length. Until then the F lens does absolutely fine.

And I find the 24-70 f4 a great lens too - not too big and given the high iso performance of the Z6 sensor great even in low light.

Of course Fujis are nice cameras - I have an X100F - but the Nikon Full Frame I find best for challenging circumstances and most serious work.

That said I rarely carry the Z6s for casual/walk round shooting

So the combo of X100F (with both adapters) and my Z6 set up gives me good options.

If its affordable its a good route - maybe get a Fuji body and 18mm for when you want to go light?

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Re: Could switch back to Fuji

vegetaleb wrote:

sdias wrote:

vegetaleb wrote:

Though I am starting to think I will have to go back to Fuji, this is why:

Which Fuji lens would you go back to if you go back to Fuji to provide a 28mm FOV? Is it the 18mm f/2?

The x100v + WCL 28mm adapter

Recently sold my Fuji XT3, Xh1 Nd bunch of Fuji lenses. Kept  the 351,4 and  56 1.2, also the x100v. Have a z6 and kit zoom and 35, 50, 85 1.8 and couldn’t be happier. Were away for the first time in a year and I was going to take the X100v to supplement my Nikon Z kit, but decided to leave it at home. Use to have wclx100 with x100f, was pretty good but sold both.

i am looking for a 28mm for the Z6. I don’t mind manual focus, especially at that focal length or wider. Thinking about  the Zeiss 28 2.8, or Voigtlander 28 f2 Ultron.

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michaeladawson Forum Pro • Posts: 14,782
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You can look elsewhere, but I don’t understand why you would move back to Fuji.  Are you going to buy the 18mm?  Not one of their highest quality lenses.

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Sukuwea Enikkusu Junior Member • Posts: 31
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Fuji has bad ergonomics. A 800g lens on Nikon will feel like a 300-400g lens on Fuji.

I used the 90mm on my xt3 and it felt so heavy while I can easy handhold a Sigma 35mm 1.4 with FTZ. Just buy the 28mm 1.8g, it is great and still better and cheaper than the Fuji 23mm 1.4 and balances really well.

Jeff_0000 Regular Member • Posts: 475
Re: Sony 28mm on Nikon Z6?

The OP wants a lightweight 28mm setup. The Sony + Techart combo is lighter than Nikon + FTZ

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Sukuwea Enikkusu Junior Member • Posts: 31
Re: Sony 28mm on Nikon Z6?

Than an Iphone might be the best bet.

The 18mm of Fuji is pretty ok tho, not the best iq but certainly enough to take great pictures.

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