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Giving up on Panasonic gx7... I think.

Started Aug 26, 2020 | Discussions
OP robmarshall77 Junior Member • Posts: 27
Re: Giving up on Panasonic gx7... I think.

Thanks for all the replies guys. Very useful. I'm now thinking I'll sell the body but not the lenses. My reasons for this are as follows:  I've heard that the gx80 doesn't have the so-called shutter shock that this cam does. I always noticed that the gx7 shutter was pretty noisy. I remember handling the gx80 in a shop and preferring the size to the gx7. I also understand that it has a superior IS system than the the 7 and a better and faster autofocus system.

This is quite a list of upgrades if they are all true and what is more these can be had used for very low prices. What do you guys think about the gx80?

The Canon gx7 markii has arrived and I'm liking the feel of it but so far I haven't had much chance to get out there and shoot with it. I hope it doesn't suffer too much from the dreaded dust on the lens problem, which I hear it is prone to.

jalywol
jalywol Forum Pro • Posts: 12,301
Re: Giving up on Panasonic gx7... I think.

robmarshall77 wrote:

Thanks for all the replies guys. Very useful. I'm now thinking I'll sell the body but not the lenses. My reasons for this are as follows: I've heard that the gx80 doesn't have the so-called shutter shock that this cam does. I always noticed that the gx7 shutter was pretty noisy. I remember handling the gx80 in a shop and preferring the size to the gx7. I also understand that it has a superior IS system than the the 7 and a better and faster autofocus system.

This is quite a list of upgrades if they are all true and what is more these can be had used for very low prices. What do you guys think about the gx80?

If you like it, it solves all the problems of the GX7...except the menu system is the same, which you mentioned you had some issues with.  The AF is a little better, but is still not going to be the greatest for tracking, if that's what you are looking for.

I'd suggest you get one of the 20MP bodies instead, if you were going to stick with Panasonic.

HOWEVER, I think you might want to look at Canon's M series of cameras instead, as you seem to be much more comfortable with their user interface, if you still want an interchangeable lens system.  The M50, for instance, might suit you better, as it also has PDAF tracking, if you are looking for that, too.

The Canon gx7 markii has arrived and I'm liking the feel of it but so far I haven't had much chance to get out there and shoot with it. I hope it doesn't suffer too much from the dreaded dust on the lens problem, which I hear it is prone to.

OP robmarshall77 Junior Member • Posts: 27
Re: Giving up on Panasonic gx7... I think.

Thanks for your reply. Yes, the m series Canons are something I thought about. Do you have any experience with them yourself?

jalywol
jalywol Forum Pro • Posts: 12,301
Re: Giving up on Panasonic gx7... I think.

robmarshall77 wrote:

Thanks for your reply. Yes, the m series Canons are something I thought about. Do you have any experience with them yourself?

Yes, I do.  I bought an RP a year or so ago, so I decided to switch my smaller bodied cameras from M43 to the Canon M series.  I got an M50, which is a very nice little camera, with the 15-45mm and the 55-200mm kit.

Advantages?  Better sensor, good handling, good EVF.  It is missing a second control wheel, which is a bit annoying, but can be set up to work around that.

Disadvantages?  For me, since I shoot long telephoto quite extensively, there is no native long (over 200mm) lens; you have to use adapted EF lenses for that, and they are a lot bigger.  So, I ended up going back to M43 primarily because there are lots of native, high quality, long lenses.

However, as a stand-alone system, if the M series native lens selection has what you need it's quite a good option. IQ is excellent, and it's an enjoyable system to use.

If you can find a way to try one out in person, you should be able to judge whether you are more comfortable with it than with your M43s.

-J

MrALLCAPS
MrALLCAPS Senior Member • Posts: 2,089
Re: Giving up on Panasonic gx7... I think.

robmarshall77 wrote:

As stated at the beginning of this thread, I'm giving up on this on camera. I say "I think" cos I won't sell it just yet but I never really got on with it. The real testament to this is that I never found myself taking out and using it.

Well, that solves your problem. Your bad. How can you even understand how to use a camera, if you Never use it?

It feels awkward and unbalanced in the hand imo, not really super carry around like a great compact, nor reassuring like a dSLR but lost in between.

Ok, in your opinion. I found the GX7 to be one of the most comfortable to use cameras. In fact, I wish my GX7 MkIII had at least a screw on grip like the GX7.

The menus are complicated and I always found myself having to remember how to change settings, also there are so many of them, something that I thought when I first got the camera would be great.

Really?? Well, yeah, your opinion. I found it easy to use.

This is just reading like you never gave the camera a chance in the 1st place.

The photos I did take with it were always a bit *meh*, and I'm sure this is more about me a photographer than the camera, but I never found myself wanting to get better with it. I've got the f1.7 prime (cheap version) and even with this things didn't really improve, images just looked flat (admittedly jpegs, I don't really have the patience for post processing and raw) so maybe this more of my bad!

I find M43 as a whole has a flat rendering, but with the right lens, you can get some good output.

Anyway, what have I changed to? Well, I've just bought a used (but mint) Canon g7xii.

A point-and-shoot?

O.K.

A strange downward move perhaps, but I'm hoping to get out and take more photos and recreate the buzz I got from using my old s90, which I loved using and gave me great results as and inconspicuous little travel cam and lovely Canon colors. I've read good things about the g7xii so I'm quite excited. What do you all think, am I giving up on m43 too easily?

Way too easily. But you already made a move to what you're comfortable with, so go ahead and enjoy.

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Rmark
Rmark Senior Member • Posts: 1,187
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I had a similar feeling about my GX8, it simply felt strange after several years of using an Olympus EM1, plus several years of using E series Olympus DSLR’s. At first I thought it might be the shape, rangefinder vs faux DSLR, then I thought it might be the different menu structure.

However, the  GX8 is now my most used and actually favorite camera. I decided to make an effort to learn the menu’ s , work with physical controls and found a lot to like about the Panasonic approach. Sometimes it takes a little extra effort.

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OP robmarshall77 Junior Member • Posts: 27
Re: Giving up on Panasonic gx7... I think.

Well, not sure this thread is dead, but I'm going to try to revive because of my excitement at another camera acquisition: the Fuji x-t20 and excellent 18-55 kit lens. A used buy, again at an excellent price and condition, I'm already in love with this little camera.

Great size and weight (small but not too small, light but not too light), solid build quality, really good feeling in the hand, fantastically customizable, lovely non-attention grabbing looks, best kit lens I've ever tried, Fuji film simulations a real Aladdin's cave waiting to be discovered, I could go on. As you can tell, I quite like this camera and am excited about the future with it.

Strange thing is, I also really like the little Canon. Some of you more experienced photographers are probably thinking.... duh... well, yeah, you have to have different tools for different jobs. Thing is I started out looking for a one size fits all Swiss army style tool, but I now I think I am going to join the ranks of people who own more than one camera, even as smart phones makers are trying to convince us that we don't need any camera except theirs!

Isola Verde
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robmarshall77 wrote:

Well, not sure this thread is dead, but I'm going to try to revive because of my excitement at another camera acquisition: the Fuji x-t20 and excellent 18-55 kit lens. A used buy, again at an excellent price and condition, I'm already in love with this little camera.

And only (almost) 4 years since....

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4080721

Hope it works out for you!

Peter

Great size and weight (small but not too small, light but not too light), solid build quality, really good feeling in the hand, fantastically customizable, lovely non-attention grabbing looks, best kit lens I've ever tried, Fuji film simulations a real Aladdin's cave waiting to be discovered, I could go on. As you can tell, I quite like this camera and am excited about the future with it.

Strange thing is, I also really like the little Canon. Some of you more experienced photographers are probably thinking.... duh... well, yeah, you have to have different tools for different jobs. Thing is I started out looking for a one size fits all Swiss army style tool, but I now I think I am going to join the ranks of people who own more than one camera, even as smart phones makers are trying to convince us that we don't need any camera except theirs!

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