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Need advice regarding buying an EOS RP

Started Aug 21, 2020 | Questions
KLO82 Senior Member • Posts: 1,527
Re: Need advice regarding buying an EOS RP

danferrin wrote:

KLO82 wrote:

danferrin wrote:

I wouldn’t recommend the RP for birds in flight, sports or fast moving children, but for just about everything else I shoot, I love it, and even though it could be better for fast moving children, it almost always nails focus on my grandchildren's eyes.

Are you saying that the AF is good, but frame rate is not for shooting fast moving children?

My issue photographing my young grandchildren is not frame rate, but EVF lag. I always shor with at least one flash, so I’m shooting in single shot mode and trying to follow the kids while they play. The image I capture is rarely the image I saw in the EVF when I pressed the shutter release.

See the page 393 of user manual. Change the viewfinder performance from the default "power saving" to "smooth" and see if that helps.  I am not an RP user, so I can't speak from my own experience.

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MatsP
MatsP Senior Member • Posts: 2,629
Re: Need advice regarding buying an EOS RP

Sittatunga wrote:

kesariraju wrote:

No honorific warranted. You make a good point about lens selection. The day may come though, when you want something in between 35 and 600, and if so, don’t overlook used EF lenses.

@danferrin, thanks for your comment, point noted.

The RP is better though by a long way,its very user friendly and produces great images.The Fuji does better 4K video though.I'd suggest SAVEing with the Xmas sales being a good time you can "Santa" yourself.It'll be a great pressy!

I mostly have EF/s glass but the 35RF is a must for interior shooting.The 24-240 is a versatile good light piece of glass.

For telephoto I have Sigma 150/600Sports,its HEAVY but works pretty well.The RF 600/800 look pretty good too(once the price comes down).A major weight advantage.Enjoy.

@viska thanks for your comment. Based on the price history in Japan, November, and February seems to be the months where the cameras have the lowest prices. So I will try to buy it in November. I do like the 24-240 but decided on 35mm as my first lens, also the 24-240 kit is out of my budget :).

Don't ignore the 24-105 f/4-7.1. That's the equivalent of a Fuji APS-C 16-70mm f/2.7-4.7 or a 12-57mm f/2-3.5 micro four-thirds lens. A very useful, lightweight combination with the 35mm f/1.8. I don't know about Japan, but the Canon UK price for a kit with the RP body and that lens is £1400 compared to the body plus EF adapter price of £1220.

I bought a RP with 24-105/4-7.1 for SEK 14990 (roughly 1500$ or €) including VAT. I must say I'm very satisfied with both the camera and the lens. Only complaint is corner sharpness at 24 mm which is worse than on my old 24-105 L but not so bad it's unusable. You don't see it on a screen at normal view distance. Otherwise those two lenses are equally sharp, maybe the little one is even sharper in the centre.

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Canon EOS RP Canon EF 50mm F1.4 USM Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM Canon RF 24-105mm F4.0-7.1 IS STM
danferrin Contributing Member • Posts: 730
Re: Need advice regarding buying an EOS RP

KLO82 wrote:

danferrin wrote:

KLO82 wrote:

danferrin wrote:

I wouldn’t recommend the RP for birds in flight, sports or fast moving children, but for just about everything else I shoot, I love it, and even though it could be better for fast moving children, it almost always nails focus on my grandchildren's eyes.

Are you saying that the AF is good, but frame rate is not for shooting fast moving children?

My issue photographing my young grandchildren is not frame rate, but EVF lag. I always shor with at least one flash, so I’m shooting in single shot mode and trying to follow the kids while they play. The image I capture is rarely the image I saw in the EVF when I pressed the shutter release.

See the page 393 of user manual. Change the viewfinder performance from the default "power saving" to "smooth" and see if that helps. I am not an RP user, so I can't speak from my own experience.

I’ve tried both settings.  I’m not happy with the lag time on either setting.  That being said, the camera almost always nails the focus.  It just misses the expression a bit too often.

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NormSchultze Contributing Member • Posts: 594
Re: Need advice regarding buying an EOS RP

Of course shutter speed stops the train. What else would stop it !. Why would you use a slow speed to stop the train, unless you were intending to pan.

But the camera/lens combo is plenty good enough to sharply render the scene with the fast mover.  So it's plenty good enough for kids and cars and such.

I'm happy with mine, tho it does have some shortcomings.  But it is a lot lighter than my 5D4 rig.   And that's good.

JustUs7 Senior Member • Posts: 4,327
Re: Need advice regarding buying an EOS RP
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NormSchultze wrote:

Of course shutter speed stops the train. What else would stop it !. Why would you use a slow speed to stop the train, unless you were intending to pan.

But the camera/lens combo is plenty good enough to sharply render the scene with the fast mover. So it's plenty good enough for kids and cars and such.

I'm happy with mine, tho it does have some shortcomings. But it is a lot lighter than my 5D4 rig. And that's good.

You were the one that said the AF was fast enough to stop the train.

The AF in the RP is plenty good enough to stop the Sunset Limited Amtrak Train 2) at 79 mph. That should be fast enough to stop your kid ! Or a bird. NASCAR ? Maybe.

I really enjoy my RP as well, but it has some limitations.  These can be mitigated with planning. The 5 FPS is closer to 2 or 3 FPS if you want any hope of tracking something and keeping it in focus. I find using zone AF with tracking somewhat helps. But better is careful planning and selective shooting using Spot AF. I rarely try bursts. EVF lag can still lead to some misses. A train is a giant target moving in a clear direction with zero deviation. A kids eye moving erratically in an EVF is a much harder target.

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bionet Senior Member • Posts: 1,133
Re: Need advice regarding buying an EOS RP

kesariraju wrote:

Buttons are customizable

I usually adapt to the default way rather than customizing my own.

Customizing the R cameras is really useful, more so than with DSLRs. Optimal setup depends a lot on what you are shooting (e.g. landscape vs. action) and what your personal preferences are. Some very useful features are disabled by default, like moving the AF point with the touch screen. The RP "grew" a lot on me after I started to customize it.

Maybe I am wrong, but I thought spot metering was a common feature, both my Olympus and Fuji have it. My max speed is 1-2 photos per minute, I can't comprehend anything beyond that. Personally I would like to capture the moments with my eyes and then just take a photo to remember it.

Nowadays it is common, but on SLRs I think it required additional hardware. My 350D did not have it, neither all film SLRs I had. I just wanted to point out the RP is not a beginner's camera at the core, for general photography it has everything you need.

OP kesariraju Forum Member • Posts: 71
Re: Need advice regarding buying an EOS RP

Thanks for the comments,
Went to the Yodobashi store for some other purposes, tried out both R and Rp. Amazed by the feel of R. It felt like a brick in the hand(in a positive way). My Fujifilm felt tiny when compared to it. The combination of R and 24-105 f4 is just huge. I really liked the combination and feel though. Rp felt nice in hand, 35 mm was attached to it and it felt nice.

Sony seems to be preparing a new entry-level full-frame camera. Let's see how things progress in the next three months.

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