Youtube poisoning?

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57even Forum Pro • Posts: 14,801
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Dareshooter wrote:

Jonsi wrote:

I don't think you're supposed to spend every waking hour on YouTube watching every unboxing video you can find. Maybe just pick someone you like, and stick to them. This goes for any type of content and is quite successful at combating repetition.

I never got the point of unboxing videos. Is packing material more interesting than I give it credit for?

I find them pretty useful when I can't sleep and there's no cricket on the telly. Doze off in next to no time.

I doze off to the cricket...

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JustUs7 Contributing Member • Posts: 947
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On a positive note, thanks to YouTube I have:

- replaced a motherboard on a dryer saving hundreds of $.

- repaired a dishwasher saving hundreds of $.

- repaired a washing machine.

- replaced the electric motor and power window mechanism in four different car doors saving more cash.

Even on jobs we elected to hire out due to time and equipment needed, we saved money and had the work done right by knowing what we wanted done and having a reasonable idea of what the job costs. Paid a little more than initial expectations, but learned what we needed to solve the problem we were having.

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HRC2016 Senior Member • Posts: 6,002
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If YouTube wasn't around what would those people be doing for a living?

At least we can turn them off.

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All Bushs Fault Regular Member • Posts: 204
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What exactly are you looking for that two weeks of research did not fulfill?

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threw the lens
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Instead of unboxing videos I'd like to see reboxing videos in case we have to send stuff back.

You know, sometimes the way stuff is packed amazes me when I have to repack it. It's like factories are presided over by Origami Commissars.

markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,091
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threw the lens wrote:

Instead of unboxing videos I'd like to see reboxing videos in case we have to send stuff back.

You know, sometimes the way stuff is packed amazes me when I have to repack it. It's like factories are presided over by Origami Commissars.

Yes! In my excitement when unboxing I never remember how everything fits back in.

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lost alaskan
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JustUs7 wrote:

On a positive note, thanks to YouTube I have:

- replaced a motherboard on a dryer saving hundreds of $.

- repaired a dishwasher saving hundreds of $.

- repaired a washing machine.

- replaced the electric motor and power window mechanism in four different car doors saving more cash.

Even on jobs we elected to hire out due to time and equipment needed, we saved money and had the work done right by knowing what we wanted done and having a reasonable idea of what the job costs. Paid a little more than initial expectations, but learned what we needed to solve the problem we were having.

Me too. I've replaced four car window mechanisms. $350-500. My cost: $40.  Any fifteen year old kid could do.

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Steve_in_Texas
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I don't follow any photo / camera stuff on youtube.

I do follow some electronic and car repair / technology talkers.  Some of these folks have a million youtube views per video and they also get sponsors from (an often) value added Patreon subscription.  Patreon alone is bringing them over $20K US per month.

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BrentSchumer
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It seems weird to seek out, dislike, and complain about optional content.  Clearly a lot of people like this stuff or it wouldn't be produced.  I find the camera reviews enjoyable, as it's fun to hear about the latest features and tradeoffs.  Especially when local photography groups are no longer meeting...

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Light Pilgrim wrote:

Are you not wondering how is it that people have so much to say on youtube about pretty much nothing? Last 2 weeks I was doing too much research on R5 and what I realized is how much irrelevant, repeated information is out there. I amazes me that people always think that their opinion matters even though they know that the same thing has been discussed and is available on-line already. I think you have 5% of content that is unique and the rest is unboxing. How many unboxing videos you need on-line for the same camera?

It is not just this, but I seriously have a feeling that folks do not have anybody to talk to so they turn their cameras on and broadcast how they day went on-line and why they are angry and what they deserve better:-)

I think that we live in an age where protecting the mind is the most difficult and most needed skill that people need to possess. There is just too much info that is useless.

Everyone wants a piece of the pie.  You know there are people out there that make ALL their money on YouTube, right?

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markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,091
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Light Pilgrim wrote:

Are you not wondering how is it that people have so much to say on youtube about pretty much nothing? Last 2 weeks I was doing too much research on R5 and what I realized is how much irrelevant, repeated information is out there. I amazes me that people always think that their opinion matters even though they know that the same thing has been discussed and is available on-line already. I think you have 5% of content that is unique and the rest is unboxing. How many unboxing videos you need on-line for the same camera?

It is not just this, but I seriously have a feeling that folks do not have anybody to talk to so they turn their cameras on and broadcast how they day went on-line and why they are angry and what they deserve better:-)

I think that we live in an age where protecting the mind is the most difficult and most needed skill that people need to possess. There is just too much info that is useless.

Everyone wants a piece of the pie. You know there are people out there that make ALL their money on YouTube, right?

My son is addicted to Ryan's toy review. If you Google how much Ryan (an 8 year old) earned last year you may be surprised! Seems like his parents started the channel at exactly the right time!

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Light Pilgrim wrote:

Are you not wondering how is it that people have so much to say on youtube about pretty much nothing? Last 2 weeks I was doing too much research on R5 and what I realized is how much irrelevant, repeated information is out there. I amazes me that people always think that their opinion matters even though they know that the same thing has been discussed and is available on-line already. I think you have 5% of content that is unique and the rest is unboxing.

It's not about content. The provider isn't selling content; he/she is selling self, or person. Hence the programs aren't about the subject matter; they are about self-expression around a topic of the day.

Similarly, the intended viewer isn't there for content in terms of subject matter; he/she is there for entertainment. The entertainment comes from the personality, or style, of the provider. That is why the subscription model works; it would be pointless if viewers were just randomly visiting the channel for today's content only.

That is why Youtube is the wrong place to go to research a topic. You will find yourself drowning in too many personalities and not enough discrete content. You are not the intended audience. The people you are viewing don't want you to appreciate the content on a random basis; they want you to feel entertained enough to want to come back to the person, i.e. to hit 'Subscribe'.

cheers

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mdmarqphoto Contributing Member • Posts: 850
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TN Args wrote:

That is why Youtube is the wrong place to go to research a topic. You will find yourself drowning in too many personalities and not enough discrete content. You are not the intended audience. The people you are viewing don't want you to appreciate the content on a random basis; they want you to feel entertained enough to want to come back to the person, i.e. to hit 'Subscribe'.

cheers

I find a lot of good info on youtube personally, but I agree with you on the above.  I've noticed over the past year or so more of the channels I subscribe to have been using their own image in the video thumbnail (usually making funny faces).  To me, this makes it seem like the video is going to be more about them (for entertainment as you say) and less about the actual content/subject.

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Jonsi wrote:

I don't think you're supposed to spend every waking hour on YouTube watching every unboxing video you can find. Maybe just pick someone you like, and stick to them. This goes for any type of content and is quite successful at combating repetition.

I never got the point of unboxing videos. Is packing material more interesting than I give it credit for?

Yep!  I have three or four YT reviewers that I like.  I skip the others.

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Light Pilgrim wrote:

Are you not wondering how is it that people have so much to say on youtube about pretty much nothing? Last 2 weeks I was doing too much research on R5 and what I realized is how much irrelevant, repeated information is out there. I amazes me that people always think that their opinion matters even though they know that the same thing has been discussed and is available on-line already. I think you have 5% of content that is unique and the rest is unboxing. How many unboxing videos you need on-line for the same camera?

It is not just this, but I seriously have a feeling that folks do not have anybody to talk to so they turn their cameras on and broadcast how they day went on-line and why they are angry and what they deserve better:-)

I think that we live in an age where protecting the mind is the most difficult and most needed skill that people need to possess. There is just too much info that is useless.

Don't mind me, I 100% mean no offence to you when I say this, but the fact you have posted this opinion here means you think your opinion matters on this particular subject. It's the same concept as YouTuber's just that it's in text form and not video.

I get what you mean, but also we'd be lost without YouTube, despite how watered down it is, if it had half the amount of "opinions" on it YT would be half as successful and thus harder to take in those opinions and form your own. Same as a lot of people (me included) would be lost without DP Review too.

something to think on at least

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Light Pilgrim wrote:

Are you not wondering how is it that people have so much to say on youtube about pretty much nothing? Last 2 weeks I was doing too much research on R5 and what I realized is how much irrelevant, repeated information is out there. I amazes me that people always think that their opinion matters even though they know that the same thing has been discussed and is available on-line already. I think you have 5% of content that is unique and the rest is unboxing. How many unboxing videos you need on-line for the same camera?

You might view many videos on the R5 to gather as much information as possible. So you visit lots of channels and find they are all regurgitating the same information you already got a forum or a press release. You are not there to be entertained by their personality, so it seems like a waste of your time to keep hearing the same thing over and over again.

Other people however are followers/fans of particular channels and don't watch every video they can find. They go to those channels to get their photography information in general. Those videos, for them, will be the first time they hear that information. Those fans/followers would find it highly irregular for their favorite photography channel to not do a video simply because the information was already out there on other channels.

It is not just this, but I seriously have a feeling that folks do not have anybody to talk to so they turn their cameras on and broadcast how they day went on-line and why they are angry and what they deserve better:-)

I think that is the point of Youtube vlogging and the reason it is successful. Content has a personality and a lot of people enjoy it. You don't. That's fine too.

I think that we live in an age where protecting the mind is the most difficult and most needed skill that people need to possess. There is just too much info that is useless.

Protecting the mind? I think its a stretch to say that watching a vlogger give a personalized review intermixed with anecdotes about their daily grind is somehow damaging to the mind.

I think we live in an age where there are so many content creators enabling people to find content tailored to their unique preferences. I think this is an improvement over my childhood when channels carried the least common denominator and you had to set a recording or tune in at a specific time just to see content that you preferred.

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Light Pilgrim wrote:

Are you not wondering how is it that people have so much to say on youtube about pretty much nothing? Last 2 weeks I was doing too much research on R5 and what I realized is how much irrelevant, repeated information is out there. I amazes me that people always think that their opinion matters even though they know that the same thing has been discussed and is available on-line already. I think you have 5% of content that is unique and the rest is unboxing. How many unboxing videos you need on-line for the same camera?

Just don't watch if you do not like, what is your problem ?

It is not just this, but I seriously have a feeling that folks do not have anybody to talk to

Unnecessary comment.

I have seriously the feeling that folks like you spend their time judging others.

so they turn their cameras on and broadcast how they day went on-line and why they are angry and what they deserve better:-)

I think that we live in an age where protecting the mind is the most difficult and most needed skill that people need to possess. There is just too much info that is useless.

Well, your thread was certainly useless.

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