Panasonic GX7 + 12-32mm, 20mm

richj20 wrote:

alcelc wrote:

However, lack of IBIS, DUAL IS, no 4K, no zebra, and the less sharp SOOC output (because it still has an AA filter on the sensor) etc all pushed me to upgrade despite it is still doing fine...

Hello Albert,

Were you dissatisfied with the output when you purchased the camera?

No, I am still very happy with GX7. Its IQ is already very acceptable to me.

However GX85 is a step ahead on IQ, a stop cleaner higher ISO (ISO1600 vs ISO3200 and possibly touching ISO6400 on GX85), more clean long exposure (GX85 can do it upto 60 sec where GX7 would fall apart after 2~4 sec), not to mention others that I mentioned in my original response.

Although G85 is now my main camera, GX7 replaces GX1 to become my backup camera.

I am interested to see a comparison of SOOC output between the two cameras. The test should be made with the cameras on a tripod.

I hope my recent posting might demonstrate some difference between GX7 vs GX85 (limited to the effect on sharpness on the AA filter of GX7's sensor vs nothing on GX85).

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64197102

Both were shot under e-shutter so basically shutter shock should not be an issue to those samples.

Thanks,

-Richard

Me, i just picked up the GX9 with 12-32 as a light hiker but am blown away by the quality. Very little difference between this and the Oly OMD EM1ii and 12-40 2.8 pro, except for the massive weight difference !

Cameras and super light weight lenses that are more than capable. Now just have to find someone who can take photos

oly and 12-32

gx9 and 12-32

P Harg wrote:

Isola Verde wrote:

The GX80 / 85 didn't work out too well for my left-handed, left-eyed, needs - so I eventually tried the GX7, which was pretty near perfect... so much so in fact that, just before lockdown, I bought myself a new GX9, for its various extra features.

Very nice camera, however I still much prefer the handling and general experience of shooting with that GX7.

I'm quite surprised that seven years have now passed since its announcement, for almost all of which I didn't think to try it!

Peter

PS - Thanks for the various tips, as well as for your pictures!

Hi

Just wondering why you find the GX7 and GX9 better for you if you are left eye dominant (like me)?

Cheers

Whenever I can, I like to use those cameras with their EVF tilted slightly upwards - which then keeps my nose clear of the rear screen... rather than pressed up against it, as happens with a fixed EVF, such as the one on the GX80/85.

Peter

P Harg wrote:

Isola Verde wrote:

P Harg wrote:

Isola Verde wrote:

The GX80 / 85 didn't work out too well for my left-handed, left-eyed, needs - so I eventually tried the GX7, which was pretty near perfect... so much so in fact that, just before lockdown, I bought myself a new GX9, for its various extra features.

Very nice camera, however I still much prefer the handling and general experience of shooting with that GX7.

I'm quite surprised that seven years have now passed since its announcement, for almost all of which I didn't think to try it!

Peter

PS - Thanks for the various tips, as well as for your pictures!

Hi

Just wondering why you find the GX7 and GX9 better for you if you are left eye dominant (like me)?

Cheers

Whenever I can, I like to use those cameras with their EVF tilted slightly upwards - which then keeps my nose clear of the rear screen... rather than pressed up against it, as happens with a fixed EVF, such as the one on the GX80/85.

Peter

Yes, I can see the EVF tilt would help you, but that's also true for right eye dominant people.

But they don't HAVE to tilt for any degree of comfort at all - try it right-eyed for yourself.

I can't get used to the RF type cameras and I'm much more comfortable with the old style EVF position in the middle. If they ever make a RF with the EVF on the right I may change my mind!

Almost forty years since my first film SLR, and I'm happy to be free of the optical pentaprism - and don't much miss the extra size and bulk of its electronic replacement of my old Lumix G3 and Oly E-M10 II.

But do I have another M43 suggestion for those of left-eyed, left handed persuasion - one that perhaps reached its most refined in the Olympus Pen E-PL8, when coupled with their VF-4 addon EVF.

That device also tilts, however it isn't required to do so in allowing we afflicted to enjoy something the right-eyed can often benefit from.. being able to hold the camera to one eye, and then look at the scene directly by simply changing view from one eye to the "other".

[Sadly, the more recent Pen models can't use the VF-4, which was itself discontinued some while ago!]

There's a photo of the combination about half-way thru' the PL8 review here...
https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/olympus-e-pl8/olympus-e-pl8A.HTM

I can only encourage you find one and try it for yourself - to experience what all those lucky right-eyed rangefinder users are enjoying all the time!

Peter