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If you have X100T and you care about stills and not video, you will not get much by moving to X100V

Started Jul 17, 2020 | User reviews
brokenhat
brokenhat Regular Member • Posts: 468
Re: If you have X100T about stills and not video, you will not get much by moving to X100V

Respectfully disagree x1000.

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DBE Regular Member • Posts: 353
Re: If you have X100T and you care about stills and not video

roberthd12 wrote:

I am trying to wrap my head around the idea that the original poster said he will never use the tilt screen. Low-angle shot? High-angle shot? I have an F, and though I like the camera a lot, I cannot tell you the # of times a tilt screen would have helped me on a shoot.

Many photographers bought into the X100 design for the rangefinder shooting experience - that is, using an optical viewfinder with the right eye and keeping the left eye open to assess the scene / action as it develops.  They (or perhaps 'we') do not use the EVF / back screen at all for composition, and rarely for reviewing the shot.  This might explain why the original poster does not see the V as a significant upgrade.

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uniball Veteran Member • Posts: 3,075
Really ?
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I had the original X100, the S and the T. The T was such a let down, I sold it early and took a pass on the F. I did buy the V based on the new lens and the tilt screen. What I was not expecting was the quality of the files I’m getting out of the V are materially improved from the 16mp versions.

If you would look beyond features (yes, I know this is DPR) I believe you would find plenty of reason to run from the T and embrace the V. For one, XTrans has improved substantially, perhaps the sensor, perhaps a current version of Lightroom CC, perhaps Iridient X-Transformer improvements and perhaps the fact I finally invested the time to learn how to configure X-Transformer to my taste.

Not to mention build quality is noticeably improved and the eye sensor actually switches before what you intended to shoot moves on. Then of course there’s the new lens — which you don’t even mention — did you not notice it? I find the V a significant improvement over any of the past models I owned. I'd say it finally feels close to a finished product and shoots as though it’s almost not there.

I don’t even know how to turn on video. This is from a stills shooter.

Joe Bagadonuts Contributing Member • Posts: 680
If you have X100T and you care about stills and not video, you will not get much by moving to X100V

You said you bought it for the focus speed. How was the focus speed?

Don Davis
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Re: If you have X100T and you care about stills...
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William Loney wrote:

2ndact scene1 wrote:

William Loney wrote:

It's all about doing your homework, and deciding what works best for you.

The 100V is shaping up to be a fantastic camera, receiving great user reviews, as well as here on DP review.

However, the 'improvements,' or upgrades over my 100F aren't really things that interest me.

I don't shoot video, nor would I even think about shooting close ups @f2 with a 23mm lens.

But that's just me.

I am amazed at all the discussion and actually passion about the close focus performance of the lens shared by the x100, S, T, and F when shot wide open. Not once have I ever wanted to shoot a subject just inches in front of my x100S at f2.

I strongly suspect that there are very few here who use it that way either. My guess is that it's a very vocal few who bring up that point just to knock a brilliant little camera.

Since I have the F and V, I did some non-scientific but representative test shots at minimum focusing distance. There is a marked difference in sharpness at f2 and f2.8, much less so at f4. I also don't use this camera for close-ups, so I agree it is usually a non-issue. I think I read another review that associated any image softness in the "old" lens to apertures wider than f4 at distances less than 4 ft, or let's say 1 meter for our friends in the 21st century. That jives with my limited experience.

Don

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OP SemK Regular Member • Posts: 126
Re: If you have X100T and you care about stills and not video ....

the focus speed is better

because of covid 19 lockdown did not get many chances to experiment the focus speed, but it is better and yet there is room for improvement

Jimmmy
Jimmmy Forum Member • Posts: 86
Re: If you have X100T and you care about stills and not video ....
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SemK wrote:

the focus speed is better

because of covid 19 lockdown did not get many chances to experiment the focus speed, but it is better and yet there is room for improvement

That's been the great frustration of this covid lockdown -- not a lot of opportunity to be doing much more than endless snaps of the same landscapes from our balconies (like this one!)  ...... in all seasons, all weather conditions, all lighting variations during the day and night.  Hoping against hope for early spring weather, full covid jab protection, and a chance to get out again with a camera!  I've got an X100T and am still learning how to get the most from it.

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SoCalDawg Regular Member • Posts: 125
Re: If you have X100T and you care about stills and not video..

SemK wrote:

I am long time happy user of the Fuji x100T. it is great camera, simple to use , with lots of manual control, the one thing I was not happy about was the focus speed. So I bought the X100V.

The X100V is not a totally different camera, but if the previous models were focus on still photography this one is supposed to be good for video as well, which I do not use. other things in the camera I am not planning to use

- touch screen - disabled it completely.

- face detection and all the focus points.

- tilt screen

- i miss the 4 way controller

- q button position is not comfortable

the battery, i was hopping to use the batteries I have from my Fuji X-T1, but they are not optimised for X100V, and there is a message on the screen telling you these are not optimal for fuji x00v.

On the image editing side.

I use a relatively old stand alone version of lightroom, so the RAW file can not be edited in this version for that i purchased Iridient X-Transformer, and that changes my workflow.

Bottom line - IMO - If you have X100T and you care about stills and not video, you will not get much by moving to X100.

I’ve owned the original, T, F, & V. T is my second favorite. T lacks same battery as newer Fuji bodies so battery life is less and multiple charging systems. I like being able to share batteries. 
IMO, .. it’s V, T, F, OG.. I never owned S. I ONLY sold my T to be on same battery system and some film sims. I tested T & F extensively before selling T and I think T was sharper and better overall than the F. I also prefer sensor in T. FWIW.. I can’t prove it but I feel like the sensor in the V is closer to the T than the F.
The V is better than all of them IMO. I don’t miss a d-pad. The new lens is MUCH better.. especially if you take close up pictures of kids open like I do. Between the new AF & the new lens, the V has gotten me the best shots of my boys of any Fuji body I’ve owned. X-H1 sits in a drawer these days. My V doesn’t get hot. The focus ring does have a little more noise.. if I were to measure..a 4 instead of a 2 with the F. Fuji has told me personally they will stand behind the V. The AF of the V is WAAAAY better than the T if you take pictures of people who may not sit still for you.

The T is a great camera but objectively it is not better than the V. Lens measurably better. Metering measurably better. Body better built. AF significantly better. Anything video (I don’t do video with X100 line) is better. I am as quality OCD as they come but anyone saying the V isn’t built as well as the T.. I simply disagree.

Now.. the X-T3.. serious dive in build quality from the 2. Went from solid/consistent dials to pop-cap cheap/hollow dials. I tried 3 and all had the issue.

SoCalDawg Regular Member • Posts: 125
Re: If you have X100T ... you will not get much by moving to X100V

AminF wrote:

How does the autofocus speed compare in real life usage?

Since you bought the V at least partially for better AF speed, are you happy with whatever improvement there is - and how much faster would you say it focuses?

SemK wrote:

I am long time happy user of the Fuji x100T. it is great camera, simple to use , with lots of manual control, the one thing I was not happy about was the focus speed. So I bought the X100V.

The X100V is not a totally different camera, but if the previous models were focus on still photography this one is supposed to be good for video as well, which I do not use. other things in the camera I am not planning to use

- touch screen - disabled it completely.

- face detection and all the focus points.

- tilt screen

- i miss the 4 way controller

- q button position is not comfortable

the battery, i was hopping to use the batteries I have from my Fuji X-T1, but they are not optimised for X100V, and there is a message on the screen telling you these are not optimal for fuji x00v.

On the image editing side.

I use a relatively old stand alone version of lightroom, so the RAW file can not be edited in this version for that i purchased Iridient X-Transformer, and that changes my workflow.

Bottom line - IMO - If you have X100T and you care about stills and not video, you will not get much by moving to X100.

The AF of the V is significantly better. I have almost given up on Fuji getting me sub-6400 ISO shots of my boys indoors with available light  I have to have 250+ SS min as they never sit still. I still need the SS but faster AF & good FD gives me much better odds of a decently sharp image

SoCalDawg Regular Member • Posts: 125
Re: If you have X100T and you care about stills and not video, to X100V

brokenhat wrote:

I humbly disagree. I went from the f to the v and it’s by far the biggest jump between any of the models to date. I take zero video. The new lens, flip screen and weather resistant are game changers. I prefer no d-pad and have read that many others don’t miss it either after adjusting to the change. Plus many other advances like screen resolution, higher resolution, new JPG profiles, more rated photos per charge, etc, etc.

I am really liking Classic Negative with coastal landscape shots.

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Re: If you have X100T and you care about stills ... switch to the X100V

John Gellings wrote:

SemK wrote:

Bottom line - IMO - If you have X100T and you care about stills and not video, you will not get much by moving to X100.

I do not agree at all... the X100V gives you a better EVF, a better LCD, a better lens, weather resistance and can focus in the dark (which the T certainly cannot do). These all help in stills photography.

You say focus in the dark. I often go to our bluff to take post-sunset shots. I am an amateur but have been playing with hyperfocal distance. For these shots over the Pacific I lock my exposure & then often aim down (I’m on a ledge)  to focus on a bush or tree below before taking the shot. Several times it’s been so dark I can barely see the bush but the V locks focus.

SoCalDawg Regular Member • Posts: 125
Re: If you have X100T and you care about stills ... switch to the X100V
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One of those post-sunset shots recently.

SoCalDawg Regular Member • Posts: 125
Re: Could not get such pics with my older X100 series
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jshen808 wrote:

Mr Bolton wrote:

debo wrote:

The AF is way snappier than all the Fuji cameras I have tried and/or used including the X-T3. Makes sense as it should be at par with the X-Pro3 or the X-T4. I clicked when she jumped. With older cameras I have to try zone focus etc. More effort but can be done

Hence this is the best X100 camera for me. The original took great pics when I didnt need the agility.

Whether I sell my T and get the F or V I haven't yet decided.. but this picture makes me happy Reminds me of when my daughters were still little and this was them at the beach.

Instead of selling,

I like to collect them.

..

Cheers!

This is the way to go. I much prefer my V but I may pickup another T for fun one day. I paid $400 for my T and it was mint. I never should have sold it.

flipswitch84 Junior Member • Posts: 33
Re: Could not get such pics with my older X100 series

Pictures I have uploaded are average, I just held my camera over our gate and took it then cropped it. Used LR to enhance. However one thing I do notice is if you don’t use some sort of software like LR, images, particularly landscapes look dull ( like the top picture if I didn’t use LR)and under-exposed. I always have to bring out the shadows. I’ve had my x100v for two weeks and haven’t taken a photo of a person yet, apparently that’s where the Fuji shines with skin tones. :).

Another thing I forgot to add is there’s quite a bit of CA in photos. What’s the reason behind this because I shoot in jpeg.

Sorry if my post was OT. These are just my impressions. I don’t feel the need to shoot in RAW because I’m still able to do lots to the pictures such as bringing in shadows and detail from under exposed/over exposed pictures. RAW file are too big and I’ve compared them with the jpegs and they are very comparable.

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roberthd12 Contributing Member • Posts: 872
Re: If you have X100T
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CG Cols wrote:

I’ve owned the x100T, F, and V and love the series. But I decided to keep the F rather than the V, primarily because of ergonomic/control problems and it running too hot even when just using menus and taking stills.

I think the F is vastly better with the D-pad, controllable auto ISO settings on the front wheel, much better delete button placement, and view mode button. And it’s never uncomfortably warm to the touch.

Besides a new sensor, processor, and better heat dissipation, I really hope Fuji can add OIS / IBIS and rectify these design setbacks in in the next model. Lock buttons for the shutter and exposure comp dials, too

And let’s see it soon!

I love my F, and I agree that if there if there is something after the V, it must have IBIS for me to buy. I mean, the Ricoh GR III and my iPhone have IBIS. Why can't a $1300 Fuji camera have it?

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Jimmmy
Jimmmy Forum Member • Posts: 86
Re: If you have X100T and you care about stills ... switch to the X100V
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SemK wrote:

John Gellings wrote:

SemK wrote:

Bottom line - IMO - If you have X100T and you care about stills and not video, you will not get much by moving to X100.

I do not agree at all... the X100V gives you a better EVF, a better LCD, a better lens, weather resistance and can focus in the dark (which the T certainly cannot do). These all help in stills photography.

your web site has so many fantastic pictures ,

I am not saying x100v does not have better lens, or EVF , all I am saying these improvements compared to X100t are just a step forward not a leap.

It just seems it is mighty hard these days, when gear has become so good, to leap forward -- progress tends to be made in increments.  I've got a T, very happy with it, but looking now at the v for the upgraded lens and higher resolution.  I have a large credit at a local camera dealer -- may use it for a silver v.  We'll see (I am a stills, not a video shooter).

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Jimmmy
Jimmmy Forum Member • Posts: 86
Re: If you have X100T and you care about stills ... switch to the X100V
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........ purchased an X100v two weeks ago, but keeping my X100T.  Still getting to know the v .. but so far I agree that improvements are incremental not revolutionary.  I am also not a video shooter.

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OP SemK Regular Member • Posts: 126
Re: If you have X100T and you care about stills ... switch to the X100V
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I had to sell my X100T to be able to focus on what I get from X100V.

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