Nisi vs B+W

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MarcoE
MarcoE Contributing Member • Posts: 873
Nisi vs B+W

I currently own the Nisi 100mm filter system (several ND filters + Polarizer & V5 pro holder).

The complete set is rather heavy and I wonder if I lose image quality if I switch to B+W sure on filters (67mm).

Anybody experience with both filter systems ?

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Fotozone Regular Member • Posts: 134
Re: Nisi vs B+W

MarcoE wrote:

I currently own the Nisi 100mm filter system (several ND filters + Polarizer & V5 pro holder).

The complete set is rather heavy and I wonder if I lose image quality if I switch to B+W sure on filters (67mm).

Anybody experience with both filter systems ?

I have used B&W for years with no problems or surprises.  I have tried Polar Pro filters but they too heavy. I'm going to look at Feewell Magnetic Filters just for weight ease of use.

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Magnar W
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MarcoE wrote:

Anybody experience with both filter systems?

Dense B+W ND filters tend to be brownish, while NISI is much more neutral.

I don't use other filteres.

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MarcoE
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Re: Nisi vs B+W

Magnar W wrote:

MarcoE wrote:

Anybody experience with both filter systems?

Dense B+W ND filters tend to be brownish, while NISI is much more neutral.

I don't use other filteres.

i have no complaints about nisi , it’s just the complete set is heavier compared to 3 or 4 screw on filters. I am aware that with nisi you have the option to use 2 or 3 filters in the v5 pro holder. I am not sure ifnthis is possible with the b+w screw on filters.

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RichardLarssen
RichardLarssen Senior Member • Posts: 1,179
Re: Nisi vs B+W

MarcoE wrote:

I currently own the Nisi 100mm filter system (several ND filters + Polarizer & V5 pro holder).

The complete set is rather heavy and I wonder if I lose image quality if I switch to B+W sure on filters (67mm).

Anybody experience with both filter systems ?

Google Kase magnetic Filters. Great for what you need. As good as Nisi but they are magnetic and more durable, tempered glass. Neutral in colors.

I am a Ambassador for Kase Filters. Been using B+W filter also before.
Some videos here(not mine)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LRVlVKXcb0&feature=emb_logohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wljlcGIyz-Q&feature=emb_logo

Regards Richard.

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LenRivers Senior Member • Posts: 2,396
Re: Nisi vs B+W

I think comparing Breakthrough Technology filters is worth it

I do like B&W and use those for protective filters.

If you go with them. Be sure to register your filters they have a serial number

https://breakthrough.photography

PWPhotography Forum Pro • Posts: 10,620
Kase Thin holder system

I have Kase K8 (K9 just released recently) thin holder system. Really like it. I bought 82mm screw-in Breakthrough x4 ND filters (3-stop and 6-stop that can stack together) for 16-35 GM. They can be used on my other lenses thru several various size step-down adapters. They can be used together with K8 holder, and its included magnetic CPL together with or without holder, very flexible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RFCQADQAD0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_nf5Z6TeRo

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MarcoE
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Re: Nisi vs B+W

RichardLarssen wrote:

MarcoE wrote:

I currently own the Nisi 100mm filter system (several ND filters + Polarizer & V5 pro holder).

The complete set is rather heavy and I wonder if I lose image quality if I switch to B+W sure on filters (67mm).

Anybody experience with both filter systems ?

Google Kase magnetic Filters. Great for what you need. As good as Nisi but they are magnetic and more durable, tempered glass. Neutral in colors.

I am a Ambassador for Kase Filters. Been using B+W filter also before.
Some videos here(not mine)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LRVlVKXcb0&feature=emb_logohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wljlcGIyz-Q&feature=emb_logo

Regards Richard.

thank you Richard. The system itself looks promising and seems much easier to handle in terms of usage and weight indeed. As you are an ambassador for Kase i am not convinced yet that these filters are as good as the Nisi quality. But the only way to find out is to try i guess..

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PWPhotography Forum Pro • Posts: 10,620
Re: Nisi vs B+W

MarcoE wrote:

RichardLarssen wrote:

MarcoE wrote:

I currently own the Nisi 100mm filter system (several ND filters + Polarizer & V5 pro holder).

The complete set is rather heavy and I wonder if I lose image quality if I switch to B+W sure on filters (67mm).

Anybody experience with both filter systems ?

Google Kase magnetic Filters. Great for what you need. As good as Nisi but they are magnetic and more durable, tempered glass. Neutral in colors.

I am a Ambassador for Kase Filters. Been using B+W filter also before.
Some videos here(not mine)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LRVlVKXcb0&feature=emb_logohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wljlcGIyz-Q&feature=emb_logo

Regards Richard.

thank you Richard. The system itself looks promising and seems much easier to handle in terms of usage and weight indeed. As you are an ambassador for Kase i am not convinced yet that these filters are as good as the Nisi quality. But the only way to find out is to try i guess..

I only can speak myself. I like Kase thin holder but I still bought 82mm Breakthrough x4 ND filters that I trust. Kase included CPL works fine which I don't use much anyway. I still can use my old Lee GND, Singh-Ray reverse GND that bought years ago.

I chose BT 82mm ND filters are 1) slide-in high-stop ND filters more or less will have light leak; 2) high-stop slide-in ND filters have sponge straps at edges that cannot slide into slots; 3) It likely has a bit vignetting a 16mm/F2.8 from 16-35 GM with slide-in ND filter. I still can mount the Kase holder on top of the ND filter via 82-88mm master magnetic adapter to use together. Also thru the same adapter, I can use its magnetic CPL on the lens or with ND filter together even without holder itself.

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RichardLarssen
RichardLarssen Senior Member • Posts: 1,179
Re: Nisi vs B+W

MarcoE wrote:

RichardLarssen wrote:

MarcoE wrote:

I currently own the Nisi 100mm filter system (several ND filters + Polarizer & V5 pro holder).

The complete set is rather heavy and I wonder if I lose image quality if I switch to B+W sure on filters (67mm).

Anybody experience with both filter systems ?

Google Kase magnetic Filters. Great for what you need. As good as Nisi but they are magnetic and more durable, tempered glass. Neutral in colors.

I am a Ambassador for Kase Filters. Been using B+W filter also before.
Some videos here(not mine)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LRVlVKXcb0&feature=emb_logohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wljlcGIyz-Q&feature=emb_logo

Regards Richard.

thank you Richard. The system itself looks promising and seems much easier to handle in terms of usage and weight indeed. As you are an ambassador for Kase i am not convinced yet that these filters are as good as the Nisi quality. But the only way to find out is to try i guess..

So you dont trust me because I am an ambassaor, I get that, I mostly dont trust them myself.
But I can tell you that i used Kase filters wolverine filters for one year before I aked them myself to become an ambassador because I like the filters.
I am not paid at all by Kase, I even buy my own filters, though with some rebate.
I dont do reviviews myself. I mosly just use my photos on social media to advertise for Kase.  
If you google reviews, you can see for yourself that they are as good as Nisi, and even better due to the more durable glass which should survive a drop from 1 meter. The magnetic holder is very nice. I run along the seashores and need a practical system which is quick to change. The magnetic system was not even made when i became an ambassador.
But whatever you go with, Nisi, Kase, Breakthrough, you will end up with a good filter system.

Regards Richard

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barnyz Regular Member • Posts: 291
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When i was doing alot of research into filters last year I always found it difficult to find reviews for Kase and Freewell. However everything I have read about them has been positive.

In regards to other brands there is nice selection here in this test that might be useful to watch:

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MarcoE
OP MarcoE Contributing Member • Posts: 873
Re: Nisi vs B+W

RichardLarssen wrote:

MarcoE wrote:

RichardLarssen wrote:

MarcoE wrote:

I currently own the Nisi 100mm filter system (several ND filters + Polarizer & V5 pro holder).

The complete set is rather heavy and I wonder if I lose image quality if I switch to B+W sure on filters (67mm).

Anybody experience with both filter systems ?

Google Kase magnetic Filters. Great for what you need. As good as Nisi but they are magnetic and more durable, tempered glass. Neutral in colors.

I am a Ambassador for Kase Filters. Been using B+W filter also before.
Some videos here(not mine)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LRVlVKXcb0&feature=emb_logohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wljlcGIyz-Q&feature=emb_logo

Regards Richard.

thank you Richard. The system itself looks promising and seems much easier to handle in terms of usage and weight indeed. As you are an ambassador for Kase i am not convinced yet that these filters are as good as the Nisi quality. But the only way to find out is to try i guess..

So you dont trust me because I am an ambassaor, I get that, I mostly dont trust them myself.
But I can tell you that i used Kase filters wolverine filters for one year before I aked them myself to become an ambassador because I like the filters.
I am not paid at all by Kase, I even buy my own filters, though with some rebate.
I dont do reviviews myself. I mosly just use my photos on social media to advertise for Kase.
If you google reviews, you can see for yourself that they are as good as Nisi, and even better due to the more durable glass which should survive a drop from 1 meter. The magnetic holder is very nice. I run along the seashores and need a practical system which is quick to change. The magnetic system was not even made when i became an ambassador.
But whatever you go with, Nisi, Kase, Breakthrough, you will end up with a good filter system.

Regards Richard

i didn’t mean it that way. I am thankful for your advice and the Kase system is looking promising. I certainly will do a comparison and decide after it if i sell my Nisi system.

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fboss Regular Member • Posts: 201
Re: Nisi vs B+W

Received last week the Tiffen digital HT CPL 82mm (for my Sigma 24-70), and will probably return it.

It works fine (smooth rotation) but there is an obvious yellow cast. I can correct it as I always shoot raws, but it's an extra step and it's not always easy to do the right correction if there is no white reference in the picture.

I didn't know the Kase models until I found this thread. The 82mm CPL doesn't seem to be in stock , and at $160+ , it's significantly more than the freewell at $100.

Has anyone compared the Kase with other brands ?

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LenRivers Senior Member • Posts: 2,396
Re: Nisi vs B+W

Breakthrough Technology filters

PWPhotography Forum Pro • Posts: 10,620
Re: Nisi vs B+W

fboss wrote:

Received last week the Tiffen digital HT CPL 82mm (for my Sigma 24-70), and will probably return it.

It works fine (smooth rotation) but there is an obvious yellow cast. I can correct it as I always shoot raws, but it's an extra step and it's not always easy to do the right correction if there is no white reference in the picture.

I didn't know the Kase models until I found this thread. The 82mm CPL doesn't seem to be in stock , and at $160+ , it's significantly more than the freewell at $100.

If you buy the holder kit, then its magnetic CPL is included that can be used with or without the holder. I just attach the CPL on the 82-88mm magnetic master adapter that latter screws in 16-35 GM or other lenses with 82-xx step down adapter. The included-in CPL is very good that I only use occasionally anyway.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1512714-REG/kase_k9_kit_with_magnetic.html

Has anyone compared the Kase with other brands ?

For ND filters, Breakthrough is one of the best. I have two 82mm screw-in BT x4 ND filters - 3 and 6 stops that can stack together to be 9 stops. They still can be used together with Kase holder (I have K8 however) by screwing-in 82-88mm magnetic master adapter on the ND filter that 88mm side holds the Kase holder system, very flexible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RFCQADQAD0

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MarcoE
OP MarcoE Contributing Member • Posts: 873
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fboss wrote:

Received last week the Tiffen digital HT CPL 82mm (for my Sigma 24-70), and will probably return it.

It works fine (smooth rotation) but there is an obvious yellow cast. I can correct it as I always shoot raws, but it's an extra step and it's not always easy to do the right correction if there is no white reference in the picture.

I didn't know the Kase models until I found this thread. The 82mm CPL doesn't seem to be in stock , and at $160+ , it's significantly more than the freewell at $100.

Has anyone compared the Kase with other brands ?

I received the kase wolferine 67mm kit today. I update my user experience later.

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fboss Regular Member • Posts: 201
Re: Nisi vs B+W

The only kit available for the 82mm is the CPL+MCUV+ND64 at $280 . Which is a lot more than what I want to spend in a CPL (I would have no use of the UV filter, and ND64 might be too restrictive).

I think I'm going to try the Gobe 3peak ($77) and/or the PolarPro QuartzLine ($120).

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fboss Regular Member • Posts: 201
Re: Nisi vs B+W

LenRivers wrote:

Breakthrough Technology filters

X4 82mm is not available until fall.

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PWPhotography Forum Pro • Posts: 10,620
Re: Nisi vs B+W

fboss wrote:

LenRivers wrote:

Breakthrough Technology filters

X4 82mm is not available until fall.

Just checked in vendor site. Except 3-stop and 15-stop in backorder, 6-stop and 10-stop X4 82mm ND filters are in stock. I have 3-stop and 6-stop that can stack together to be 9-stop x4 ND filters, perform very well.

https://breakthrough.photography/products/x4-neutral-density?variant=30850759697

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fboss Regular Member • Posts: 201
Re: Nisi vs B+W

PWPhotography wrote:

fboss wrote:

LenRivers wrote:

Breakthrough Technology filters

X4 82mm is not available until fall.

Just checked in vendor site. Except 3-stop and 15-stop in backorder, 6-stop and 10-stop X4 82mm ND filters are in stock. I have 3-stop and 6-stop that can stack together to be 9-stop x4 ND filters, perform very well.

https://breakthrough.photography/products/x4-neutral-density?variant=30850759697

the CPL X4 82mm is backorder:

https://breakthrough.photography/products/x4-circular-polarizer?variant=31547348945

I contacted them last week and they said it would be available in fall.  Don't want to wait that long.

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