5D vs EOS R - Longevity?

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alexportrait Forum Member • Posts: 66
5D vs EOS R - Longevity?

I own an old 6D. It does the job, but you know, always looking for an upgrade. I think it's time.

I have been torn between the 5D IV and the mirrorless system with the EOS R. I think mirrorless is what the future holds and all companies should only be focusing on that for the next years, so it would make more sense to go for the EOS R. But these smaller cameras keep me thinking if the R is more fragile than the 5D line.

My 6D is a workhorse. I know the 5D also is. I just shot with a 5D Mark II from a friend that was still in perfect state. I know they have amazing longevity. I just don't feel the same sense when I hold an EOS R. They are so light and small and the overall feeling is just fragile.

I don't want my cameras to become an iPhone kind of thing where I feel tempted to change every 1-2 years with the new launches. I had this 6D for a really long time, and plan to have my next camera also for a really long time.

Bottom line: do you think the R system will last as long and be as robust as the 5D?

PS If I had the means I'd totally go for the R5 just for the specs but we ain't got no money for that lol in Canadian dollars it's a $2000 jump from 5D IV to R5.

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richiemccaw Senior Member • Posts: 1,007
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It really depends on your comfort level with mirrorless systems. I am using both systems and appreciate what each type of system brings to the table. I do find myself using LiveView quite frequently nowadays even on my 80D just so I do not have to squat to shoot at the level of my kids.

That said, I do believe mirrorless systems are the future even if some of the current cameras may not be as good in terms of build quality and technology as DSLRs. Getting closer and closer, but probably not mature enough yet.

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CameraCarl Veteran Member • Posts: 7,204
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Who can tell what longevity any particular individual product will have?  With the DSLR you have years worth of product development, debugging and manufacturing experience. With the mirrorless, you have fewer moving parts but a new design with less manufacturing experience. But it is probably more the luck of the draw: you could get a camera which fails after a year or lasts fifteen years; regardless of the design or manufacturer.  Buy which ever camera meets your needs and pocketbook and take photos.

MitchAlsup Veteran Member • Posts: 5,140
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Bottom line: do you think the R system will last as long and be as robust as the 5D?

An R5 camera is not likely to last as long as a well designed dSLR. The mirrorless is completely dependent on electronics, whereas the dSLRs are completely depenent on mechanic and optics. Optics last for centuries, mechanics will last decades (at least).

How long will the EVF last?

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gavin Veteran Member • Posts: 7,600
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Yes they called it a 5 series camera plus  Mirrorless has less moving parts to break. If you like EVF then I would go with RF. I am sure my next camera will be mirrorless and R5 looks likely.

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preferredfault Regular Member • Posts: 320
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I think they will have some life to them, because even when the mechanical shutter fails, you'll still have the electronic shutter.  But who knows what kinds of issues might crop up with the electronics.  Newer electronics tend to be less robust because they're more complicated, so more failure points.

There was a video recently about how Sony's sensor mounts were breaking inside the camera, and it was a significant percentage of these camera's estimated to suffer from this issue. So who knows what other problems could crop up internally.

Personally, I'm not a fan of EVF's. OVF's are far more enjoyable to use, despite having less features.  I don't need live view or anything but an OVF.

Most of the R5's hype comes from its video capabilities. As a stills camera, it's not leaps and bounds.  Way too many cameras are hyped up primarily because of their video capabilities. While this might be important to some, it makes reviews a bit hard to listen to, because you're listening to it from the perspective of a youtube videographers who often know very little about photography, or for them it's not the forefront of what they're interested in.

And let's also keep in mind battery life. 5D's can take over 900 shots on a single battery charge. R5 takes less than 200.

The RF lenses are also insanely expensive. The cheapest one is $400 and it's an f/4 STM zoom lens. Of course you can use an adapter, but the weight/size of the body is definitely going to be unbalanced in the front.

And who knows how long RF remains a thing.  Who knows if 5-10 years from now they drop it for something else.  Meanwhile the EF mount has been around for more than 30 years, and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.  There probably won't be an EF camera anytime soon, but there will be eventually.

My guess is eventually OVF with EVF overlay hybrids will become a thing, and then at that point, strictly mirrorless camera's will become old news and for "cheap" camera's only.  And the problem with that is lenses like RF, will have no room for that mirror, while EF will.  So we could eventually see a huge explosion of people flocking back to EF lenses.

OP alexportrait Forum Member • Posts: 66
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Thanks all. I think I'm tempted to just stick to DSLR.

I don't like the idea of an EVF.

I like that mirrorless is lighter and more portable - but I hate the less robust handling of the camera.

I just really wish the 5D IV (or a future 5D V) had those 45-50mp that the new R5 will have. That would be really important for my work. I can find the resolution on the 5DS or 5DS R, but lose some functions like wifi and better video that are important to me.

Honestly I take close to zero care of my camera. I love it but I don't have the patience to take care of it. I don't have any fancy dehumidifier, any special case, I don't do regular cleaning or anything. And it's still like new. And it's old. I highly doubt that would happen with a mirrorless system.

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MGrue Junior Member • Posts: 26
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alexportrait wrote:

Thanks all. I think I'm tempted to just stick to DSLR.

I don't like the idea of an EVF.

I like that mirrorless is lighter and more portable - but I hate the less robust handling of the camera.

I just really wish the 5D IV (or a future 5D V) had those 45-50mp that the new R5 will have. That would be really important for my work. I can find the resolution on the 5DS or 5DS R, but lose some functions like wifi and better video that are important to me.

Honestly I take close to zero care of my camera. I love it but I don't have the patience to take care of it. I don't have any fancy dehumidifier, any special case, I don't do regular cleaning or anything. And it's still like new. And it's old. I highly doubt that would happen with a mirrorless system.

MEH IDK

Unless you like totally mechanical film cameras, at some point the electronics will give out.

I had an original EOS 1D that I used forever and finally the sensor or the PCB went out. I mean, it's going to happen whether it's a DSLR or a mirrorless. Yes, even an 1d.

1Dx4me Veteran Member • Posts: 9,618
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what do you mean "longevity"? i still have my original 5D and is still working perfectly!!!!

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Miron09 Contributing Member • Posts: 974
6 D lasts 1 Million actuations or more ?

just met a wedding photographer who is using it since it´s release: 1 cam with 900.000, the other with 500.000. Still going strong. Why bother to upgrade

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GreatWhiteWing Senior Member • Posts: 1,222
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alexportrait wrote:

I own an old 6D. It does the job, but you know, always looking for an upgrade. I think it's time.

I have been torn between the 5D IV and the mirrorless system with the EOS R. I think mirrorless is what the future holds and all companies should only be focusing on that for the next years, so it would make more sense to go for the EOS R. But these smaller cameras keep me thinking if the R is more fragile than the 5D line.

My 6D is a workhorse. I know the 5D also is. I just shot with a 5D Mark II from a friend that was still in perfect state. I know they have amazing longevity. I just don't feel the same sense when I hold an EOS R. They are so light and small and the overall feeling is just fragile.

I don't want my cameras to become an iPhone kind of thing where I feel tempted to change every 1-2 years with the new launches. I had this 6D for a really long time, and plan to have my next camera also for a really long time.

Bottom line: do you think the R system will last as long and be as robust as the 5D?

PS If I had the means I'd totally go for the R5 just for the specs but we ain't got no money for that lol in Canadian dollars it's a $2000 jump from 5D IV to R5.

For me personally I prefer the DSLR vs ML but if I were younger I would wait for second gen r5 or R1? and build a system from there. I am currently really close to an optimal system for me

I don't plan another camera body purchase but don't rule it out and it's clear the mirror is becomming extinct.

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