Anyone using Snapseed photo editor on android phone?

Ernie Misner wrote:

Boss of Sony wrote:

Detail is pretty good with Lightroom HDR. Here's an edited iPhone 7 sunrise photo shot in Lightroom HDR RAW. This was an extremely contrasty scene and my traditional camera wouldn't have managed it without bracketing on a tripod.

Did Lightroom assemble the HDR, or did your iPhone 7? I don't know much about iPhone.

Wow! That's a great sunrise photo using Lr HDR raw! Thanks you guys for the input and keeping this thread alive.

Yes, I would add some red and do noise reduction.

(GIMP)

Years ago I quit enjoying photography. So, I considered what photography involved for me, made a list of the discrete steps, and then scored how much I enjoyed each step. Sitting in front of a computer editing a photo was the lowest on my scale of enjoyment. Then I kept track of how I was spending my time and, damn, what I liked the  least was consuming most of my time.

The first thing I did was take time, read the manual, and really master my DSLR. Then I found an editor that was less powerful but easier and quicker to use. As I got old and tired of carrying cameras, lens, and  stuff the phone cameras got better and I started using them. The pace of change for technology increased as did the options for editing.

Now, I spend a few weeks simply mastering the camera software in the new phone. Now I find that I can do my minimal editing, usually, in Google Photos with Snapseed for "Perspective".

I rarely ever do any "editing" on my phone.

Patrick T. Kelly wrote:

Years ago I quit enjoying photography. So, I considered what photography involved for me, made a list of the discrete steps, and then scored how much I enjoyed each step. Sitting in front of a computer editing a photo was the lowest on my scale of enjoyment. Then I kept track of how I was spending my time and, damn, what I liked the least was consuming most of my time.

The first thing I did was take time, read the manual, and really master my DSLR. Then I found an editor that was less powerful but easier and quicker to use. As I got old and tired of carrying cameras, lens, and stuff the phone cameras got better and I started using them. The pace of change for technology increased as did the options for editing.

Now, I spend a few weeks simply mastering the camera software in the new phone. Now I find that I can do my minimal editing, usually, in Google Photos with Snapseed for "Perspective".

I rarely ever do any "editing" on my phone.

Good points.

I enjoy photo editing, although I can easily understand why you don't.

Do you use Snapseed because you like it best? Or because it's too difficult to transfer cellphone photos to a PC for editing?

GIMP is a much better JPEG editor, with more features including noise reduction (NR).

ILC cameras are certainly inconvenient due to their poor transfer facilities. Memory card, USB, WiFi - cumbersome, slow, glacial.

With Open Camera installed, and set to DRO (dynamic range optimization) I see less noise than in similar photos taken in DNG and converted with Snapseed, which lacks NR.

Boss of Sony wrote:

Detail is pretty good with Lightroom HDR. Here's an edited iPhone 7 sunrise photo shot in Lightroom HDR RAW. This was an extremely contrasty scene and my traditional camera wouldn't have managed it without bracketing on a tripod.

Nice pic.
Same issue I find. In fact if you shooting HDR, you need a tripod.
The Auto HDR is a waste of time in low light and high contrast. 
Im currently on the lookout for a tripod light enough for hiking, strong enough to hold my apsc but also use with my phone and is really affordable (but not junk). Not easy. 
I was recently in bush and missed a lot of shots simply because handheld the camera couldnt draw enough light. I left the Camera at home as we were hiking for 5 days and didnt want the extra weight, I now regret that. Oh well, next time.
Phones still clearly have huge limitations and whilst they are always with us, even an RX100 is a better proposition. I think once phones get to 1" sensors, point and shoots will be 4/3 sensors. Tech companies have at least a decade of technology they hold back in advance.

Ernie Misner wrote:

thinkinginimages wrote:

Ernie Misner wrote:

I got a new Samsung S20 phone and was wondering if Snapseed is an easy and fun to use photo editor on the S20, or if you had a better suggestion. My S20 is the low end model, not the one with the super camera. The built in photo editor looks better than my old S6 phone and don't know if Snapseed would be a lot better? Thanks.

I use Snapseed from time to time and it's quite good. It's a big step up from Google Photos and my old LG's photo gallery/editor. Snapseed was from the Nik collection originally. I'm surprised Google hasn't completely incorporated Snapseed into Photos.

Indeed, and Snapseed uses Control Points for making selections also, right? I'm amazed that with the Android version you can do everything just by moving your finger around on the screen.

Boss of Sony wrote:

FranciscoPaixao wrote:

Boss of Sony wrote:

Boss of Sony wrote:

FranciscoPaixao wrote:

Boss of Sony wrote:

Nothing comes close to Snapseed for editing JPEGs.

For RAW editing, you need to use the mobile Lightroom app, which is also free. Nothing come close to it either.

Snapseed also allows for RAW editing. It's less powerful on editing RAWs than Lightroom but it's very fast.

No control over noise reduction and sharpening in Snapseed. Seems to be baked into the file. In my experience this results in less detail.

The best thing about Lightroom is not just RAW editing, but shooting in RAW (3-shot HDR RAW). This seems to result in a very malleable RAW file.

I think my phone is not compatible with Raw HDR in Lightroom.

Some Gcams do Raw stacking but I Don't know how many files it merges. You get more dynamic range of the RAW file but the detail is slightly worse in my opinion.

Detail is pretty good with Lightroom HDR. Here's an edited iPhone 7 sunrise photo shot in Lightroom HDR RAW. This was an extremely contrasty scene and my traditional camera wouldn't have managed it without bracketing on a tripod.

Nice one! That's a lot of dynamic range for a phone!
I think nowadays JEPGs from phones come way too processed and RAW is the way to go if you want more natural results.
Altough the computational photography is quite impressive today, you almost never get blown highlights and crushed shadows.

CAcreeks wrote:

Patrick T. Kelly wrote:

Years ago I quit enjoying photography. So, I considered what photography involved for me, made a list of the discrete steps, and then scored how much I enjoyed each step. Sitting in front of a computer editing a photo was the lowest on my scale of enjoyment. Then I kept track of how I was spending my time and, damn, what I liked the least was consuming most of my time.

The first thing I did was take time, read the manual, and really master my DSLR. Then I found an editor that was less powerful but easier and quicker to use. As I got old and tired of carrying cameras, lens, and stuff the phone cameras got better and I started using them. The pace of change for technology increased as did the options for editing.

Now, I spend a few weeks simply mastering the camera software in the new phone. Now I find that I can do my minimal editing, usually, in Google Photos with Snapseed for "Perspective".

I rarely ever do any "editing" on my phone.

Good points.

I enjoy photo editing, although I can easily understand why you don't.

Do you use Snapseed because you like it best? Or because it's too difficult to transfer cellphone photos to a PC for editing?

GIMP is a much better JPEG editor, with more features including noise reduction (NR).

ILC cameras are certainly inconvenient due to their poor transfer facilities. Memory card, USB, WiFi - cumbersome, slow, glacial.

With Open Camera installed, and set to DRO (dynamic range optimization) I see less noise than in similar photos taken in DNG and converted with Snapseed, which lacks NR.

Thank you, I didn't know that DRO RAW option in open camera. Will try that!

FranciscoPaixao wrote:

CAcreeks wrote:

With Open Camera installed, and set to DRO (dynamic range optimization) I see less noise than in similar photos taken in DNG and converted with Snapseed, which lacks NR.

Thank you, I didn't know that DRO RAW option in open camera. Will try that!

Are you able to get DRO (dynamic range optimization) with output set to DNG?

In my Motorola One phone, Open Camera produces DRO only for JPEG output.

Until DxO PhotoLab supports cellphone DNGs, I feel shooting Raw is pointless for me. Too much noise. Maybe Topaz Denoise would work, but Snapseed lacks noise reduction.

CAcreeks wrote:

Patrick T. Kelly wrote:

Years ago I quit enjoying photography. So, I considered what photography involved for me, made a list of the discrete steps, and then scored how much I enjoyed each step. Sitting in front of a computer editing a photo was the lowest on my scale of enjoyment. Then I kept track of how I was spending my time and, damn, what I liked the least was consuming most of my time.

The first thing I did was take time, read the manual, and really master my DSLR. Then I found an editor that was less powerful but easier and quicker to use. As I got old and tired of carrying cameras, lens, and stuff the phone cameras got better and I started using them. The pace of change for technology increased as did the options for editing.

Now, I spend a few weeks simply mastering the camera software in the new phone. Now I find that I can do my minimal editing, usually, in Google Photos with Snapseed for "Perspective".

I rarely ever do any "editing" on my phone.

Good points.

I enjoy photo editing, although I can easily understand why you don't.

Do you use Snapseed because you like it best? Or because it's too difficult to transfer cellphone photos to a PC for editing?

GIMP is a much better JPEG editor, with more features including noise reduction (NR).

ILC cameras are certainly inconvenient due to their poor transfer facilities. Memory card, USB, WiFi - cumbersome, slow, glacial.

With Open Camera installed, and set to DRO (dynamic range optimization) I see less noise than in similar photos taken in DNG and converted with Snapseed, which lacks NR.

I have a PC sitting on my desk but I don't use it any long. I'm using a Chromebook. When I come in from taking photos it isn't long before my photos are in Google Photos on my laptop. I can do what minimal editing I usually do in Google Photos. If I want to correct perspective on the wide-angle lens I can move to Snapseed from within Google Photos and when I'm done a copy of the Snapseed photo with the perspective corrected in in Google Photos.

CAcreeks wrote:

FranciscoPaixao wrote:

CAcreeks wrote:

With Open Camera installed, and set to DRO (dynamic range optimization) I see less noise than in similar photos taken in DNG and converted with Snapseed, which lacks NR.

Thank you, I didn't know that DRO RAW option in open camera. Will try that!

Are you able to get DRO (dynamic range optimization) with output set to DNG?

In my Motorola One phone, Open Camera produces DRO only for JPEG output.

Until DxO PhotoLab supports cellphone DNGs, I feel shooting Raw is pointless for me. Too much noise. Maybe Topaz Denoise would work, but Snapseed lacks noise reduction.

Surprised to read about Open Camera not generating DNGs with DRO. I'm using HedgeCam2 (a friendly collaborative spin of Open Camera) with no such problem. I prefer its "NR" to DRO setting, as similarly multishot with different settings tweaks, but both create JPG with uncompressed DNGs, from its JPEG and DNG (RAW) setting. (I'm using HedgeCam2 as a mono black and white app, getting manual control over multishot output SOOC, beating what I've gotten from several dedicated b/w apps, and the companion DNG is handy if color or post-processing is wanted later.)

I2K4 wrote:

CAcreeks wrote:

In my Motorola One phone, Open Camera produces DRO only for JPEG output.

Surprised to read about Open Camera not generating DNGs with DRO.

I was wrong. Open Camera can generate DNG with DRO (dynamic range optimization) set. It must be enabled in a properties menu, which I did not notice before.

However, as developed in Snapseed, the DNG is inferior to Open Camera produced JPEG, with DRO enabled.

Open Camera can produce WebP instead of JPEG, although WebP omits EXIF.

I'm using HedgeCam2 (a friendly collaborative spin of Open Camera) with no such problem. I prefer its "NR" to DRO setting, as similarly multishot with different settings tweaks, but both create JPG with uncompressed DNGs, from its JPEG and DNG (RAW) setting. (I'm using HedgeCam2 as a mono black and white app, getting manual control over multishot output SOOC, beating what I've gotten from several dedicated b/w apps, and the companion DNG is handy if color or post-processing is wanted later.)

Thanks for the info. Reviews of HedgeCam2 look bad, so I didn't download.

CAcreeks wrote:

I2K4 wrote:

CAcreeks wrote:

In my Motorola One phone, Open Camera produces DRO only for JPEG output.

Surprised to read about Open Camera not generating DNGs with DRO.

I was wrong. Open Camera can generate DNG with DRO (dynamic range optimization) set. It must be enabled in a properties menu, which I did not notice before.

However, as developed in Snapseed, the DNG is inferior to Open Camera produced JPEG, with DRO enabled.

Open Camera can produce WebP instead of JPEG, although WebP omits EXIF.

I'm using HedgeCam2 (a friendly collaborative spin of Open Camera) with no such problem. I prefer its "NR" to DRO setting, as similarly multishot with different settings tweaks, but both create JPG with uncompressed DNGs, from its JPEG and DNG (RAW) setting. (I'm using HedgeCam2 as a mono black and white app, getting manual control over multishot output SOOC, beating what I've gotten from several dedicated b/w apps, and the companion DNG is handy if color or post-processing is wanted later.)

Thanks for the info. Reviews of HedgeCam2 look bad, so I didn't download.

Device compatibility could be a factor for HedgeCam. On my Moto it's Open Camera (along with other apps I had used on other phones) that creates weird fogging of the AMOLED screen. The phone is very finicky about third-party camera apps. HedgeCam has the Open Camera functionality, and works right adding a few tweaks and different GUI.

On JPEG + RAW I think an interesting thing about phones is they generate lossless RAW/DNG alongside full implementation of in-camera JPEG settings, so JPEG can be much closer to desired final result. That's gets amplified with various HDR implementations. On dedicated cameras, the companion JPEG is generally a lossy version of the embedded RAW thumbnail, excluding a lot of the customized JPEG camera mode settings. If Plan A is to process the RAW, the washed out JPEG is useless, and if it's to use the JPEG, better to go with the full range of the camera's settings.

CAcreeks wrote:

Patrick T. Kelly wrote:

Years ago I quit enjoying photography. So, I considered what photography involved for me, made a list of the discrete steps, and then scored how much I enjoyed each step. Sitting in front of a computer editing a photo was the lowest on my scale of enjoyment. Then I kept track of how I was spending my time and, damn, what I liked the least was consuming most of my time.

The first thing I did was take time, read the manual, and really master my DSLR. Then I found an editor that was less powerful but easier and quicker to use. As I got old and tired of carrying cameras, lens, and stuff the phone cameras got better and I started using them. The pace of change for technology increased as did the options for editing.

Now, I spend a few weeks simply mastering the camera software in the new phone. Now I find that I can do my minimal editing, usually, in Google Photos with Snapseed for "Perspective".

I rarely ever do any "editing" on my phone.

Good points.

I enjoy photo editing, although I can easily understand why you don't.

.Do you use Snapseed because you like it best? Or because it's too difficult to transfer cellphone photos to a PC for editing?

GIMP is a much better JPEG editor, with more features including noise reduction (NR).

ILC cameras are certainly inconvenient due to their poor transfer facilities. Memory card, USB, WiFi - cumbersome, slow, glacial.

With Open Camera installed, and set to DRO (dynamic range optimization) I see less noise than in similar photos taken in DNG and converted with Snapseed, which lacks NR.

I use Snapseed because it meets my needs. I've used Lightroom and others and Snapseed meets my needs, is free, and fairly simple. I have no desire to leave photography and produce graphic art.

I use a chromebook with Snapseed and there is no transfer problem. My photos go to Google Photos wirelessly and I can open Snapseed from within Google Photos. If all I need to do is crop or level the horizon I used Google Photos.