Reliabilty of m43 mirrorless cameras

The conditions for SS are complicated. Even the orientation (portrait vs landscape) makes a difference. I still have the GX1 and 14-42PZ, but the GX1 is now just a backup body for my GX9. The 14-42 works well on the GX9 when I want something smaller than the 12-60 f3.5/5.6.

Mark

Isola Verde wrote:

jf_tea wrote:

Isola Verde wrote:

jf_tea wrote:

Isola Verde wrote:

Emsquared wrote:

I just got a G85 and the PZ14-42 is pretty nice on it with EFC shutter, It was good with GX-7 E-shutter too.

I see from the separate thread that you're well aware of its shortcomings when mounted on the cameras of its day.

I happily got rid of mine, along with both GX1 and G3, but am glad to hear you've found a way to make use of yours!

Peter

GX1:

I've never observed shutter shock fuzziness when I use the GX1+20/1.7 or with 14/2.5 -- (I am not denying other users might have noticed SS with some lenses).

Even with the 100-300 at 300mm, the GX1 was ok. But, I might just have been lucky. ... I sold my 100-300 anyway. Because I found the FZ150, and, then FZ200 more convenient (because smaller to carry when in a canoe or when hiking) -- yes, I am lazy.

Not sure you were lucky, you simply chose a wiser option than the ill-matched - and rather pricey - pairing I had the misfortune to pick as my introduction to M43...

"The Panasonic LUMIX DMC-GX1 will be available in black and silver bodies in mid-December and in the following kit options: DMC-GX1-X with the LUMIX G X VARIO PZ 14-42mm / F3.5-5.6 ASPH. / POWER O.I.S (H-PS14042) lens will have a suggested retail price (SRP) of $949.99; the DMC-GX1-K with the 14-42 standard zoom for an SRP of $799.99; and the DMC-GX1, body only for an SRP of $699.99. "

Proper pre-release testing would have identified the issue - and let them drop that particular package... the GX1 was OK once I went out and bought other lenses, and the 14/42PZ worked well enough on soft-shuttered cameras... but as a kit they made a treacherous combination.

Peter

hmmm... a friend has a GX1 + 14-42 PZ. I shall warn him to change the lens if he finds he takes (too many) SS fuzzy pictures.

Thanks for the explanation !

Does this happen at specific focal lengths and/or shutter speed ?

I would guess it happened more at 42mm and at less than 1/200s... but it might occur with less obvious parameters too.

Not sure I can help with specific good/bad settings - after so long, I've dumped most of the blighted pictures.

But here are a couple - taken within the same minute, at very similar settings, but from slightly different positions - of which one's rather less appealing than the other?

Screen grabs of the same images, at 100% and at 50% magnification...

Peter

The left one of the comparison at 100% magnification is quite bad.

I will explain that shutter shock problem to my friend. He should be aware of it and check the output of his GX1+14-42 PZ kit before he travels or go hike on a long trail with it. Perhaps he will be more happy with the Panasonic 14/2.5 or 20/1.7 or 14-45 or the 14-42 Mark II (non-PZ) or the 12-32.

Thanks for the samples.

Within 2 years, the "wheel" of our E-PL2 did not operate reliably. It was rather inefficient (and frustrating) to struggle with it to try to make adjustments.

Luckily, a little bit of contact cleaner was a good way to fix it. But it needed to be used again after a few months (depending on how often we used the camera). Note: the camera was not used in harsh, dusty environment. And, no other camera suffered a similar problem within the same places/times of use.

Otherwise, the E-PL2 was a great camera. Fast to operate, nice screen (for its time), very nice output (files).