Which to sell to fund an R5: 5D IV or EOS R?

Pretend for a second you own a 5DIV and EOS R, and need to sell one of them to fund the R5. You can only sell one of them because you need 2 bodies at all times. Let's also pretend you own the following lenses:

35L II

85L 1.4

Sigma 50 1.4 Art

Canon 100 Macro L

EF 24-70 II

RF 70-200 2.8

Maybe there is some combination of lenses to sell/buy to further defray the cost of a R5, while not losing lens coverage. Subject matter is mostly weddings and portraits. Post ideas in the comments! Thanks.

In that scenario I would sell the 5DIV and Sigma Art 50.

The 35L and 85L would cover my portrait needs while the zoom ones would cover my event needs. The 100L is different being a 1:1 macro and great for detail shoots.

I would keep with the same system even though I think the mk IV is a better camera.

pokesfan wrote:

Pretend for a second you own a 5DIV and EOS R, and need to sell one of them to fund the R5. You can only sell one of them because you need 2 bodies at all times. Let's also pretend you own the following lenses:

35L II

85L 1.4

Sigma 50 1.4 Art

Canon 100 Macro L

EF 24-70 II

RF 70-200 2.8

Maybe there is some combination of lenses to sell/buy to further defray the cost of a R5, while not losing lens coverage. Subject matter is mostly weddings and portraits. Post ideas in the comments! Thanks.

I would sell the 5D IV, but it's close IMHO. You might keep it just because it could be the last 5D series camera. Another poster mentioned you would probably get more money for the R so that's also an incentive to sell the R. Since both cameras have the same image quality it's hard to argue one way or the other but the 5D IV is a more fully featured camera on top of it all. The 5D IV is definitely more of an industrial grade camera as well. Of course if you sell the 5D IV you're committing fully to the RF mount and simplifying things like lens changes. It's an extra step to swap the adapter on and off. Personally I'm probably going to sell my R and keep the RP in the same role as backup.

I’d sell the 5D4, that way your 70-200 (and any future RF lenses) will be compatible with both your bodies. Unless you absolute need the 5D4’s faster drive speed, longer battery life, or dual card slots on a second body, I think the R is just as capable. Also if both of your bodies are R series, that would give you better continuity with layout and controls.

Personally I prefer the R’s size, ergonomics, and autofocus system to the 5D4’s.

pokesfan wrote:

Pretend for a second you own a 5DIV and EOS R, and need to sell one of them to fund the R5. You can only sell one of them because you need 2 bodies at all times. Let's also pretend you own the following lenses:

35L II

85L 1.4

Sigma 50 1.4 Art

Canon 100 Macro L

EF 24-70 II

RF 70-200 2.8

Maybe there is some combination of lenses to sell/buy to further defray the cost of a R5, while not losing lens coverage. Subject matter is mostly weddings and portraits. Post ideas in the comments! Thanks.

You should ask yourself first if the camera is actually going to make that much of a difference before you go to liquidating so much equipment or rule out buying anything else.

I will surely sell 5D IV..
I did it a year ago, and never regret..

And I think one of the strongest benefit using R series camera is to be able using RF lens..

Beside it, if you using 5D IV and R5 then some (RF) lenses just could be use at R5 body.
If you using R and R5 you will be freedom to put any lenses in any camera body.

Have a nice day..

pokesfan wrote:

Pretend for a second you own a 5DIV and EOS R, and need to sell one of them to fund the R5. You can only sell one of them because you need 2 bodies at all times. Let's also pretend you own the following lenses:

35L II

85L 1.4

Sigma 50 1.4 Art

Canon 100 Macro L

EF 24-70 II

RF 70-200 2.8

Maybe there is some combination of lenses to sell/buy to further defray the cost of a R5, while not losing lens coverage. Subject matter is mostly weddings and portraits. Post ideas in the comments! Thanks.

peterpet wrote:

I will surely sell 5D IV..
I did it a year ago, and never regret..

And I think one of the strongest benefit using R series camera is to be able using RF lens..

Beside it, if you using 5D IV and R5 then some (RF) lenses just could be use at R5 body.
If you using R and R5 you will be freedom to put any lenses in any camera body.

Have a nice day..

This is probably the strongest argument yet for keeping the R

CarlosMart wrote:

In that scenario I would sell the 5DIV and Sigma Art 50.

The 35L and 85L would cover my portrait needs while the zoom ones would cover my event needs. The 100L is different being a 1:1 macro and great for detail shoots.

I like this. The only problem is the 50 does not hold very much value- maybe I'll get $500? On the other hand I could drop the 50 and 100. Or maybe just the 35...

1Dx4me wrote:

pokesfan wrote:

Pretend for a second you own a 5DIV and EOS R, and need to sell one of them to fund the R5. You can only sell one of them because you need 2 bodies at all times. Let's also pretend you own the following lenses:

35L II

85L 1.4

Sigma 50 1.4 Art

Canon 100 Macro L

EF 24-70 II

RF 70-200 2.8

Maybe there is some combination of lenses to sell/buy to further defray the cost of a R5, while not losing lens coverage. Subject matter is mostly weddings and portraits. Post ideas in the comments! Thanks.

i don't know, if it was me, i'd definitely keep the 5D4 and let the R go if you are planning to get the R5, and here is why: depends on the condition of your 5D4, you are not gonna get that much money for it, so why not keep it for a long long time and you have those lenses that could use with either for mat! i know i'll hang on to my 1dmk4, 1Dx, and 5DsR for as long as they work, simply because i have to many EF "L" lenses to get rid of them. i don't see any logic in get rid of my dslrs and EF lenses because i know i have to take a huge hit when i sell them. i know people are parroting saying: but the MLC is the future, or canon is gonna support dslrs, or sheits like that, so what does that really mean except for hype? your 5D4 will work for a long time to come and enjoy it while you have it.

but it is all up to you and how you feel about it--i rather have tools of both formats to break the monotony. i would imagine you'll be bored with R camera next year by this time, assuming you are getting a R5! unless you are the kind who needs to change format and manufacturer every 6 months to find that imaginary "perfect" camera and then back to canon a couple of years if you come to this forum often enough, you do see those guys often enough and i find it quite interesting. at the end, it all comes downe to your decision, it is your money, after all. my 2 cents, YMMV.

I've had a Canon since the 20D. Which I guess is one reason I'd be reluctant to not own a DSLR at all. It's a tough choice.

gimp_dad wrote:

pokesfan wrote:

Pretend for a second you own a 5DIV and EOS R, and need to sell one of them to fund the R5. You can only sell one of them because you need 2 bodies at all times. Let's also pretend you own the following lenses:

35L II

85L 1.4

Sigma 50 1.4 Art

Canon 100 Macro L

EF 24-70 II

RF 70-200 2.8

Maybe there is some combination of lenses to sell/buy to further defray the cost of a R5, while not losing lens coverage. Subject matter is mostly weddings and portraits. Post ideas in the comments! Thanks.

Love everything you have. But I'd sell the 5D4 (even though it's the best all around DSLR ever), sell the 35/LII, 50/1.4A and 24-70/LII. Replace all of that with the RF28-70/2L. I love the way it renders and it is just so flexible for weddings and the like.

Also, do you even need the macro anymore with the close focus capability of the RF70-200/2.8LIS? Maybe you do for rings but the zoom comes pretty close to giving you what you need.

I think the EF85/1.4LIS is fantastic too. Someday you can always consider either the new F2 version or go all the way for the beast RF85/1.2L. It's a defining lens for the RF system.

Oof, the 28-70 just seems like a beast. Have you used it? I imagine it's a bit like shooting with a 70-200 all day long. But yeah, not having to change lenses on one of my cameras sounds really nice.

I've been thinking the 100 Macro is the one pulling its weight the least- and yet, I need it for rings and close ups. Maybe getting some extension tubes would replace it.

I hope the RF 85 f/2 is a home run. It will be tough moving from an L 1.4 to a non-L f2, but with macro ability, smaller size and maybe cheaper it might be a good move in the future. But that would depend on the magnification, which I doubt is going to be 1:1.

10 FPS wrote:

I’d sell the 5D4, that way your 70-200 (and any future RF lenses) will be compatible with both your bodies. Unless you absolute need the 5D4’s faster drive speed, longer battery life, or dual card slots on a second body, I think the R is just as capable. Also if both of your bodies are R series, that would give you better continuity with layout and controls.

Personally I prefer the R’s size, ergonomics, and autofocus system to the 5D4’s.

This is a good point. It is kind a of mess right now with 2 mounts, and some lenses that need an adapter and some don't. It confused my wife, who assists me at weddings (and possibly tipped her off that I had a new RF lens lol)

The biggest drawback to the R I think is the single slot. I don't use the 2nd camera so much as a backup as I use 2 cameras at once- so one camera wider and one camera longer at all times. I mitigate the risk by using a Gnarbox 2.0 to unload the SD card often, but the risk is still there.

I would give the control layout continuity to the 5DIV paired with the R5. Because of the missing back dial on the R, they are so different to shoot.

I voted for sell the EOS R and keep the 5D IV. I also had to make that decision and personally: I'm going to sell my RP and keep my 5DIV.

Why? Because it depends on what you're going to use the camera for.

During events (weddings, festivals, presentations, fashion shows, parties, etc), the 5D IV is a better companion. If you want, you can also shoot with live view all the time. So I consider it a R-, with all the benefits of a pro DSLR (ia. OVF, focus in strong backlit situations, IR AF assist, dual card slots).

For portrait shoots, the R pips it with visual confirmation of Eye AF, tracking AF of a single human subject. So if this your main thing, keep the R.

What also came through my mind: The R5 will completely replace your R and will be able to do everything the R can do. But the R5 will not be able to replace everything the 5D IV can do (eg. OVF, IR AF Assist). So I believe the 5D IV and R5 will complement each other better.