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Flowering Raspberry

Started Jun 17, 2020 | Photos
joelbolden Regular Member • Posts: 195
Flowering Raspberry
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Camera: Minolta A2. Location:  Spring Creek Canyon, near Bellefonte, PA.  Although much different(and much prettier) than your average Raspberry blossom this native(to the U.S.) plant does produce an edible raspberry.

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Paul Barnard
Paul Barnard Veteran Member • Posts: 3,798
Re: Flowering Raspberry
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joelbolden wrote:

Camera: Minolta A2. Location: Spring Creek Canyon, near Bellefonte, PA. Although much different(and much prettier) than your average Raspberry blossom this native(to the U.S.) plant does produce an edible raspberry.

Not sure if uploading the image has cause a problem but I’m seeing it very mushy and very over sharpened.

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OP joelbolden Regular Member • Posts: 195
Re: Flowering Raspberry

I'm not sure how it can be very mushy and over sharpened at the same time, however the sad fact is that this is the actual texture of the flower.  Not much I can do about it.

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Paul Barnard
Paul Barnard Veteran Member • Posts: 3,798
Re: Flowering Raspberry

joelbolden wrote:

I'm not sure how it can be very mushy and over sharpened at the same time, however the sad fact is that this is the actual texture of the flower. Not much I can do about it.

I didn’t intend to offend. It looked like a very low res upload that was sharpened again.
By mushy I’m referring to a distinct lack of detail. Then over sharpened so the mushiness and rather high noise becomes angular and course.

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Jozef M Senior Member • Posts: 2,197
Re: Flowering Raspberry

Paul Barnard wrote:

joelbolden wrote:

Camera: Minolta A2. Location: Spring Creek Canyon, near Bellefonte, PA. Although much different(and much prettier) than your average Raspberry blossom this native(to the U.S.) plant does produce an edible raspberry.

Not sure if uploading the image has cause a problem but I’m seeing it very mushy and very over sharpened.

To the OP ... , click on your image, then in the gallery view, press 'z' on your keyboard, or click on '100% view', and then you see how your photo really looks. It's awfull. It's like a painting on a concrete wall. You must learn how to post process your photos, I think your camera is ok.

Jozef.

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Brian Chichester
Brian Chichester Senior Member • Posts: 1,104
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This is not a competition or a critique forum so I was surprised to see people coming down so hard on the OP's image.

To my eye it's an interesting nature image by an enthusiast still using and enjoying one of the classic A series cameras. I was aware of some kind of texture effect in the background (probably an artefact of processing) but I would not have drawn attention to it because, as regards the purpose of the image, it's neither here nor there.

I was thinking of posting some recent images taken on a country walk with my A200, but now I'm not so sure.

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Paul Barnard
Paul Barnard Veteran Member • Posts: 3,798
Re: Flowering Raspberry

Brian Chichester wrote:

This is not a competition or a critique forum so I was surprised to see people coming down so hard on the OP's image.

To my eye it's an interesting nature image by an enthusiast still using and enjoying one of the classic A series cameras. I was aware of some kind of texture effect in the background (probably an artefact of processing) but I would not have drawn attention to it because, as regards the purpose of the image, it's neither here nor there.

I was thinking of posting some recent images taken on a country walk with my A200, but now I'm not so sure.

My original comment was not meant as critique simply questioning if there was a problem with the image upload. I have seen problems with image uploads before that have resulted in similar effects.

You only have to look at the images here to see that there is a very significant difference in the image quality

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Jozef M Senior Member • Posts: 2,197
Re: Flowering Raspberry

Brian Chichester wrote:

This is not a competition or a critique forum so I was surprised to see people coming down so hard on the OP's image.

To my eye it's an interesting nature image by an enthusiast still using and enjoying one of the classic A series cameras. I was aware of some kind of texture effect in the background (probably an artefact of processing) but I would not have drawn attention to it because, as regards the purpose of the image, it's neither here nor there.

I was thinking of posting some recent images taken on a country walk with my A200, but now I'm not so sure.

Some people do more harm than good with their photo edits, and they don't know it themselves. They only look at the small stamp images on their Phone or on these treads here.

His original jpeg is probably ok, but he totally messed up the picture. If I am not allowed to help this photographer by saying this, and always praise all images very politely with words like great, good colors, fantastic composition, then he or she will never make progress.
I think you're the kind of person who always says fantastic things to everything, and it's people like you who prevent a photographer from looking at their work with a positive critical eye. It's you who does more harm than good, we are not little toddlers who post their pictures here.

But I will be glad to praise you with fantastic and great if you eventually dare to post some images here. If you need it ... and I think you turn a mosquito into an elephant, don't take everything so seriously!

Jozef.

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neilt3
neilt3 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,008
Re: Flowering Raspberry

Jozef M wrote:

Brian Chichester wrote:

This is not a competition or a critique forum so I was surprised to see people coming down so hard on the OP's image.

To my eye it's an interesting nature image by an enthusiast still using and enjoying one of the classic A series cameras. I was aware of some kind of texture effect in the background (probably an artefact of processing) but I would not have drawn attention to it because, as regards the purpose of the image, it's neither here nor there.

I was thinking of posting some recent images taken on a country walk with my A200, but now I'm not so sure.

Some people do more harm than good with their photo edits, and they don't know it themselves. They only look at the small stamp images on their Phone or on these treads here.

His original jpeg is probably ok, but he totally messed up the picture. If I am not allowed to help this photographer by saying this, and always praise all images very politely with words like great, good colors, fantastic composition, then he or she will never make progress.
I think you're the kind of person who always says fantastic things to everything, and it's people like you who prevent a photographer from looking at their work with a positive critical eye. It's you who does more harm than good, we are not little toddlers who post their pictures here.

But I will be glad to praise you with fantastic and great if you eventually dare to post some images here. If you need it ... and I think you turn a mosquito into an elephant, don't take everything so seriously!

Jozef.

I can't see an issue with trying to help someone get the best out of their camera .

Initially it looked like a high ISO was used , but at 125 it should be a lot smoother than this .

I use Lightroom to process my images in , and looking at this it seems to me the saturation has been ramped up and the clarity slider has gone too far .

There's also artifact's ( lines / banding ) on the top left as I look at it .

That's not part of the original scene , and not being across the frame it looks like a processing issue .

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It's a shame if someone's too shallow to take a bit of helpful , friendly , constructed criticism .

Maybe if the o.p takes another look at the file , reprocesses it , and re-posts the image he can learn from this and not just take the hump .

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Jozef M Senior Member • Posts: 2,197
Re: Flowering Raspberry

neilt3 wrote:

Jozef M wrote:

Brian Chichester wrote:

This is not a competition or a critique forum so I was surprised to see people coming down so hard on the OP's image.

To my eye it's an interesting nature image by an enthusiast still using and enjoying one of the classic A series cameras. I was aware of some kind of texture effect in the background (probably an artefact of processing) but I would not have drawn attention to it because, as regards the purpose of the image, it's neither here nor there.

I was thinking of posting some recent images taken on a country walk with my A200, but now I'm not so sure.

Some people do more harm than good with their photo edits, and they don't know it themselves. They only look at the small stamp images on their Phone or on these treads here.

His original jpeg is probably ok, but he totally messed up the picture. If I am not allowed to help this photographer by saying this, and always praise all images very politely with words like great, good colors, fantastic composition, then he or she will never make progress.
I think you're the kind of person who always says fantastic things to everything, and it's people like you who prevent a photographer from looking at their work with a positive critical eye. It's you who does more harm than good, we are not little toddlers who post their pictures here.

But I will be glad to praise you with fantastic and great if you eventually dare to post some images here. If you need it ... and I think you turn a mosquito into an elephant, don't take everything so seriously!

Jozef.

I can't see an issue with trying to help someone get the best out of their camera .

I can, see, we are discussing the photo of the OP, so there is still some life into this forum now

Initially it looked like a high ISO was used , but at 125 it should be a lot smoother than this .

I use Lightroom to process my images in , and looking at this it seems to me the saturation has been ramped up and the clarity slider has gone too far .

There's also artifact's ( lines / banding ) on the top left as I look at it .

That's not part of the original scene , and not being across the frame it looks like a processing issue .

The photo looks like it has been edited with the 'sandstone' filter in Photoshop. I tried to recreate this with a photo of myself.

The way I processed it with no filter.

with the 'sandstone' filter PS.

Of course, everyone can do what they like with their photos, no problem with this.

Jozef.

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neilt3
neilt3 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,008
Re: Flowering Raspberry

The original shot shows an EV of -1.3 .

As the ISO was only 125 , noise shouldn't have been an issue , I'm wondering if the shot was inadvertently underexposed then lightened afterwards bringing out the grain/ noise and the banding then slightly over saturated and too much sharpening / clarity ?

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If people aren't open to C&C it's hard to help ......

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