Olympus make an E-P6 like this

Raist3d wrote:

Sell the flash separately simplify the essence of the new higher end pen

Or put a built in flash a la Fuji X100 series that only works with the small primes , still

leaving space for the pop up evf

My idea of having the flash in the pop-up EVF housing solves both and has the advantage of the flash being in the better position: elevated in the corner.

Harold66 wrote:

Henry Richardson wrote:

My idea of having the flash in the pop-up EVF housing solves both and has the advantage of the flash being in the better position: elevated in the corner.

It is not a good or even serious idea at all for many reasons but it will never happen so we can forget it as soon as this thread is over

We can always count on you to have absolutely nothing useful or interesting or even amusing to contribute.

Heritage Cameras wrote:

Henry Richardson wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Sell the flash separately simplify the essence of the new higher end pen

Or put a built in flash a la Fuji X100 series that only works with the small primes , still

leaving space for the pop up evf

My idea of having the flash in the pop-up EVF housing solves both and has the advantage of the flash being in the better position: elevated in the corner.

There is precedent for an electronic viewfinder with extra feature(s) built-in. Leica had (has?) a Visoflex 020 combined EVF and GPS unit. Why not a flash?

I took a quick look at your website. You have a lot of old, interesting camera gear there. I like visiting used camera stores here in Japan. Not nearly as many of them as there were back in the 1980s and 1990s though. Many started disappearing about 15 years ago.

Henry Richardson wrote:

​First let me just say that I know there is basically no chance that Olympus or Panasonic will make a camera like this, but I can still have fun suggesting that they do and explaining why. There may even be a few of you who will agree with me. Knowing this forum though I am aware that my opinions are usually in the minority and often unpopular. Here goes anyway.

I wonder...do you think the chances of getting an Olympus E-P6 like this have gone down even further?

I would like a new model and for what I am thinking the E-P5 is probably the closest so I will use it as the baseline and just change/add a few things. I shoot with my left eye and there has never been a camera with an eye-level viewfinder in the 50 or so years I have been photographing that has been ideal. Naturally, the camera companies always prioritize making the ergonomics best for people who shoot with their right eye since that is the majority. With m4/3 though using my left eye means that the controls on the back on the right side are sometimes rather convenient and slow to use because my face is over there too and makes quick adjustments with my thumb not so good. It also means that although I would like to use the touch AF and ability to move the AF point around with my thumb I always have to disable that function because my face causes the AF point to randomly jump around at the most inopportune times.

I like my PEN-F with the EVF over on the left corner and it helps some, but probably the best I have used with m4/3 is an E-P5 with the big VF-4 EVF attached to the top. The EVF is well above the rear of the camera and that means my eye and face is moved higher too. Unfortunately, it has a huge downside and that is that there is this big, bulky, removable EVF that makes the whole camera more of a hassle to deal with. The EVF can get knocked or even broken, you can't just quickly stuff it in your camera bag since you need to remove the EVF, you can't quickly take the camera out of the bag and use it because you need to attach the EVF, and so on.

My idea is that it would be cool to have a pop-up EVF ala the Sony RX100V or Canon G5XII. Both of them have a good EVF and since it pops up in the left corner it sits above the camera when you are using it. You can pop it up quickly and also push it down quickly. It is permanently attached and part of the camera, but when you don't want it or want to stow the camera you can push it down and the camera top is smooth. It is not as high when in use as the VF-4, but would still be great because it is in the corner and raised up rather than the center. And much better than an EVF such as the PEN-F EVF that is flush with the top of the body.

Although we can all think of things to add on and changes to make, I would be pretty happy if an EP-6 was essentially the same as the E-P5 plus this collapsible EVF. Even the same 16mp sensor. Nice to have an electronic shutter too, but doesn't the E-P5 already have that? My E-M10II does. Put the EVF where the E-P5 flash is and just have a tiny external flash provided like the PEN-F.

To remind you of what the E-P5 looks like I found a few photos on the internet.

Apparently per Robin Wong and registrations, there's one camera coming up in the pipeline. Whether that's the EM10 MKIV or another Pen, good question.

Hopefully not another "Tough II Super Turbo Champion Edition"

An E-P6 with pop-up EVF and these E-M10IV specs would not be bad

• 20.MP sensor
• 5axis stabilization (4.5EV)
• 2.36m dot EVF (100% 1.23x)
• 1037 dot 3inch LCD tilting monitor
• 121 point contrast AF
• 1/4000-60sec shutter. Live-bulb max 30m. Live composite max 3h. Electronic first curtain shutter (1/320-60sec) Silent mode (1/16000-60sec)
• Art filters
• Video 4K 30-25-24p FHD 60-30-25-24p
• 15fps in S-AF and 6.3fps in C-AF
• Dimension: 121.7 x 84.4 x 49mm
• Weight 383 (with battery)

No mention if the firmware features from the E-M10II are restored. Probably not.

The current EVF is okay with me, but okay I wouldn't complain about a better one.

I wonder if an E-P6 may be coming in 2021? Maybe something like I described?

First leak pictures of the upcoming Olympus E-P7 camera

https://photorumors.com/2021/06/02/first-leak-pictures-of-the-upcoming-olympus-e-p7-camera-still-called-olympus/

I wonder if it has a pop-up EVF? Sort of looks like it might. Or more likely a pop-up flash.

Good to have a bit of a grip on the front! There is a JPEG control near the bottom next to the lens that seems to have the same function as on the PEN-F.

Henry Richardson wrote:

First leak pictures of the upcoming Olympus E-P7 camera

https://photorumors.com/2021/06/02/first-leak-pictures-of-the-upcoming-olympus-e-p7-camera-still-called-olympus/

I wonder if it has a pop-up EVF? Sort of looks like it might. Or more likely a pop-up flash.

Good to have a bit of a grip on the front! There is a JPEG control near the bottom next to the lens that seems to have the same function as on the PEN-F.

Another photo and also a photo of the 8-25mm f4.

First leaked image of the new Olympus E-P7 and 8-25mm PRO lens

https://www.43rumors.com/first-leaked-image-of-the-new-olympus-e-p7-and-8-25mm-pro-lens/

Henry Richardson wrote:

An E-P6 with pop-up EVF and these E-M10IV specs would not be bad

• 20.MP sensor
• 5axis stabilization (4.5EV)
• 2.36m dot EVF (100% 1.23x)
• 1037 dot 3inch LCD tilting monitor
• 121 point contrast AF
• 1/4000-60sec shutter. Live-bulb max 30m. Live composite max 3h. Electronic first curtain shutter (1/320-60sec) Silent mode (1/16000-60sec)
• Art filters
• Video 4K 30-25-24p FHD 60-30-25-24p
• 15fps in S-AF and 6.3fps in C-AF
• Dimension: 121.7 x 84.4 x 49mm
• Weight 383 (with battery)

No mention if the firmware features from the E-M10II are restored. Probably not.

I guess we will know fairly soon.

Henry Richardson wrote:

Put the flash in the pop-up EVF housing. These days these flash units are tiny -- I took a look at the size of the flash in my E-M10II, GX7II/GX85, and TX1/ZS100. I bet the designers could figure out how to fit one in the EVF housing and it would have the advantage that it will pop-up in the corner which is the better location rather than the center. Elevated and corner.

The little external flash that comes with the PEN-F, etc. is nice and it could either be included with the E-P6 or maybe better sell it separately for a reasonable price so that the E-P6 price could be slightly lower. Say, $50 or $60. Many of us already have the little flash anyway because it came with another body we bought. In my case the PEN-F.

I still like my idea.

NZ Scott wrote:

Henry Richardson wrote:

First leak pictures of the upcoming Olympus E-P7 camera

https://photorumors.com/2021/06/02/first-leak-pictures-of-the-upcoming-olympus-e-p7-camera-still-called-olympus/

I wonder if it has a pop-up EVF? Sort of looks like it might. Or more likely a pop-up flash.

Unfortunately it's a flash, Henry.

You can see the little button on the back.

Yes, I saw that.