G5X II questions

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pula58 New Member • Posts: 21
G5X II questions

I had a G15 (still have it actually) that I bought used from KEH. Nice little camera.

I upgraded last autumn to the new G5X II.

I have been a little disappointed. I thought that with the much larger sensor that the photos would be dramatically better (clearer, sharper) and have less dynamic range problems. I take a lot of photos on backpacking and climbing trips, and it is very difficult to avoid blown-out highlights and/or shadows that get noisy if you try to lighten them up with software.

I was thinking of trying a G1X III as it has a larger sensor (APS-C compared to the G5X II's "one inch")

Has anyone made the comparison (i.e., used) both of these cameras?

How do they compare in terms of: auto-focus sharpness

dynamic range?

low-light performance ?

Thanks!

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filmrescue Contributing Member • Posts: 845
Re: G5X II questions

If you go to the "quality" page of the g5x ii review, you can directly compare the quality between these two cameras. While the G1x iii has a about a stop better IQ at higher ISOs it has more than a stop worse on the lens. For me it was sort of 6 of one a half dozen of another and I went for the G5x ii because I wanted something pocketable. As to latitude...I'm not sure. I have been using the HDR a bit on the camera and sometimes the results are great in difficult light and sometimes too effecty. I prefer the Sony RX100 line for this.

RLight Senior Member • Posts: 2,554
Re: G5X II questions

pula58 wrote:

I had a G15 (still have it actually) that I bought used from KEH. Nice little camera.

I upgraded last autumn to the new G5X II.

I have been a little disappointed. I thought that with the much larger sensor that the photos would be dramatically better (clearer, sharper) and have less dynamic range problems. I take a lot of photos on backpacking and climbing trips, and it is very difficult to avoid blown-out highlights and/or shadows that get noisy if you try to lighten them up with software.

I was thinking of trying a G1X III as it has a larger sensor (APS-C compared to the G5X II's "one inch")

Has anyone made the comparison (i.e., used) both of these cameras?

I own the G5X II now and owned the G1X III from when it launched till Q4 last year.

How do they compare in terms of: auto-focus sharpness

G1X III has better video AF, but that's it. As far as still and even AI-Servo tracking, the G5X II is equal (ai-servo) or better in the case of single-shot AF in particular.

dynamic range?

G5X II I'd actually give that medal to from my post-processing latitude I've gotten.

low-light performance ?

Close draw. Might actually side with the G5X II here too interestingly enough; better low light AF, and smarter noise reduction both courtesy of the DIGIC8 (probably).

Thanks!

To be direct; the G5X II sits right between the G15 and G1X III in terms of image quality, you are correct with your hunch. You need to take DR and ISO out of the equation for a minute.

The G1X III has 4 more megapixels, but more importantly, has better colors, bokeh drawing, 500-100 more lines of resolution between that larger denser sensor and probably "better" lens. It gives a more DSLR/Mirrorless feel to it's images, without a doubt. The G5X II, gives more powershot-like shots, until you post-process them. Interestingly that makes a pretty big difference for the G5X II (post-processing) whereas it makes less of a difference for the G1X III in terms of meeting the bar for acceptable image quality. I do use Canon DPP4 though, which is a turnoff to most folks but it preserves Canon colors, which is vital here (IMO).

I used to own the G1X III and now own the G5X II. Pocket ability was the driver towards the G5X II. I almost repurchased the G1X III this round. Actually glad I didn't, the G5X II suits my personal needs better.

If you're not happy with the results from the G5X II, the G1X III should be on your radar. I can say the G1X III does not disappoint in that regard. It's not pocket-able like the G5X II, or has the reach, but truthfully I don't need the reach as often as I thought, but pocket ability? Yeah, that's a real world problem the camera solves; staying out of the picture...

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RLight Senior Member • Posts: 2,554
Re: G5X II questions

pula58 wrote:

I had a G15 (still have it actually) that I bought used from KEH. Nice little camera.

I upgraded last autumn to the new G5X II.

I have been a little disappointed. I thought that with the much larger sensor that the photos would be dramatically better (clearer, sharper) and have less dynamic range problems. I take a lot of photos on backpacking and climbing trips, and it is very difficult to avoid blown-out highlights and/or shadows that get noisy if you try to lighten them up with software.

I just realized you're more a beginner from the number of posts and where you've posted...

Some advice: Learn to use the tool you have now. The G5X II is no slouch. I'm not saying don't do the G1X III, it's more powerful, but, utilize HTP with DR+2 highlight control to gain more dynamic range. Try Canon's DPP4 as Adobe will skew your colors while making edits. It's free.

Shoot RAW, if you don't.

Fine detail picture style is a good tool to further your highlight retention.

As a user of both the G5X II and G1X III, both can be made to do your bidding and lightroom can drop the ball as it has lesser support for newer CR3 enabled Canon's, which includes the G5X II so it's color fidelity is lacking which is probably hurting you (and others that don't know better).

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0lf
0lf Senior Member • Posts: 1,241
Re: G5X II questions

You don't tell about your shooting habit, so it is hard to help, but, assuming you shoot jpeg, one thing I like to advise is :

took some shots in raw and process them in camera. Then, you can play with different setting and learn the settings you like the most. This camera has a lot of flexibility when it come to jpeg rendering :

  • picture style change tone curve and color response.
  • contrast
  • ALO (auto lightning optimizer, brigthen the shadows)
  • color saturation
  • sharpness can be tuned with strength, fineness (radius) and threshold (unsharp mask)
  • noise reduction
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OP pula58 New Member • Posts: 21
Re: G5X II questions
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RLight wrote:

pula58 wrote:

I had a G15 (still have it actually) that I bought used from KEH. Nice little camera.

I upgraded last autumn to the new G5X II.

I have been a little disappointed. I thought that with the much larger sensor that the photos would be dramatically better (clearer, sharper) and have less dynamic range problems. I take a lot of photos on backpacking and climbing trips, and it is very difficult to avoid blown-out highlights and/or shadows that get noisy if you try to lighten them up with software.

I just realized you're more a beginner from the number of posts and where you've posted...

Some advice: Learn to use the tool you have now. The G5X II is no slouch. I'm not saying don't do the G1X III, it's more powerful, but, utilize HTP with DR+2 highlight control to gain more dynamic range. Try Canon's DPP4 as Adobe will skew your colors while making edits. It's free.

Shoot RAW, if you don't.

Fine detail picture style is a good tool to further your highlight retention.

As a user of both the G5X II and G1X III, both can be made to do your bidding and lightroom can drop the ball as it has lesser support for newer CR3 enabled Canon's, which includes the G5X II so it's color fidelity is lacking which is probably hurting you (and others that don't know better).

Thanks..I may start playing around with the raw files and DPP4

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