Older gear in 2020

but think I'll be keeping the E-M1.1's also...at least until I can get a second E-M1.3 on the cheap.

Dan

The GM5 is a marvel of packaging but the controls are too small for comfort for my hands. If not I would have traded my PM2 for it.

Used the PM2 today on a hike that was no hike because the local park was closed for Covid-19. Not setting the IQ world on fire. Shot these on "P" with approximate focus and the wonderful little 12-32.

Still works for snaps. With RAW beats a cell phone and it's smaller than most cell phones, just thicker even without the lens. Fits in a camera vest pocket though. You can find one for less than $100,

Angels fallen off the cherry tree.

Daffodils before Tulips, now overlapping.

The Em10 mark 1 : sums up everything that is great about Olympus m4/3 . A joy to use, small, sharp, raw files are splendid . Mates well with the small primes, especially the 17 f1.8

Bought a used one in excellent condition for my baby bro last Xmas for 140 euros , less than 10k actuations .

Tried a mark 2 last year but decided it not worth the upgrade for what I do , and the body felt cheaper made .

Any beginner willing to enter m4/3 go for the Em10 , imo still best value in 2020

I am also a big fan of the e-m10. It just suits my needs perfectly. I do use it with the add on grip which makes it very comfortable (highly recommended). I have not seen the mk2 in the flesh so can’t comment on build quality, but, other than the improved evf, it holds no temptation for me. My favourite combination is with the 12-50, which I really like as a general purpose walk round.

Miss tilly wrote:

Thank you for posting your beautiful pictures. They are all wonderful but your Tuscan pictures reminded me of our visit to this region some time ago, At the time I was not quite so keen on photography as I am now so my pictures of the trip are limited, ah well, just have to go back! Thanks again.

Thanks you Gary

I use em1x and em1II, both very recent cameras but I also still use  2 em10, first version) and the em1 first version on a lot of my shoots. I think the old omd, even the cheapest, are still relevant.

pannumon wrote:

Tatouzou wrote:

G7: kind of poor man's G80, roughly same form factor, ergonomy and features set, save for the lack of IBIS. Could still be bought in march in my country new with the Lumix 14-140 f3.5-5.6 for only 150/200 € more than the lens alone. My previous first camera before I bought the GX8.

G80 has IBIS, weather sealing, much more silent and shock-free shutter, no AA filter...

I have a G7 and a G80. They are giving away G80's for 350€ right now (from a reputable store; including 24% VAT of course).

I started watching Camera Conspiracies YouTube channel again recently, and there is no video where he does not mention how incredible the G85 (=G80) is...

There are many classic µ4/3 cameras that are worth it, but at those prices, it does not make much sense to buy a second hand G7 for 250€, when you can get a new G80 for €350-€400.

I agree that G80 is a much nicer camera than G7.

I bought the G7 in 2018, bundled with the 14-140, for only 150 € extra over the price of the lens alone. At that time, the G80 was much more expensive.

When I bought my GX8 in 2019, I might as well have chosen the G80.

At that time, the G7the had been my main camera across Tuscany, and I enjoyed both the handling and the output.

Though I mostly used it with the 14-140, I had not met the dreaded shutter shock.

GX8 and G80, with the Lumix 12-60mm, were offered both at roughly the same price during a september 2019 firesale, around 600€ for the bundle. I chose the GX8,  to try the rangefinder ergonomy and the new 20MP sensor. The G80 looked too close to my G7.

That is why I called the G7 the poor man's G80

nevada5 wrote:

18. Posting many pictures. Do not post more than 10 pictures in one message, instead post a link to a gallery.

Thanks.

Actually, I posted only links to my Dpreview gallery. So no rule was broken.

The MKII may have a higher resolution LCD which would make it easier to check focus. The control dials are much better designed, easier to use. I like the ergonomics much better.

Tatouzou wrote:

Actually, I posted only links to my Dpreview gallery. So no rule was broken.

Not that I personally care about number of photos, but actually you posted 17 photos inline in this post in this thread: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63831221

Try the old Lumix G2 - I also use an Oly EM5.2, and apart from the IS it does nothing in the real world which the G2 cannot do just as well.  a cheap but useful body such as the G2 will leave plenty of change to buy a really good lens, such as the Oly 12-40 f2.8 PRO.

I was looking at some pictures taken with my G2 from way back in 2014. Compared with recent pictures from more modern cameras taken recently they hold up really well.

Common, let's be serious. Nobody will see the difference between a picture you took with a recent camera and a camera they is, let's say 8 years old.

I sometimes notice that my processing software has become better and/ or that by re- processing my raw files again they are better because I got better at processing my raw files, but that's, in most cases, the only difference.

World class digital photos that were taken 10 years ago don't become suddenly obsolete because there is a new camera.