My first Macro shot feedback

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kpr1291 Forum Member • Posts: 52
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Hello,

This is my first macro photography from a Spider. May not be the sharpest shot since I was hand holding and I shot it at F/16. The point is to get feedback so I can improve my macro shooting. I also photograph diverse wildlife and birds.

Equipment:

  1. Canon 90D 
  2. Tamron SP 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di VC
  3. Raynox DCR-250 Macro conversion lens
  4. TTL 600 Godox Flash shot wireless with diffuser on. 

Edited in Lightroom and Topaz Denoise AI.

Location: North Pacific of Costa Rica. (No ID, I believe is a Wolf Spider)

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Thats as good as it gets for IQ. great start. just make sure you always use flash and mix the lighting up by taking the flash off camera and shooting it from different positions. you could have pushed up to f22.

Don

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Donald B wrote:

Thats as good as it gets for IQ. great start. just make sure you always use flash and mix the lighting up by taking the flash off camera and shooting it from different positions. you could have pushed up to f22.

Don

Thanks! I believe I don't know how to upload the image in the Forum with the Flickr quality. Any suggestion is appreciated.

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kpr1291 wrote:

Donald B wrote:

Thats as good as it gets for IQ. great start. just make sure you always use flash and mix the lighting up by taking the flash off camera and shooting it from different positions. you could have pushed up to f22.

Don

Thanks! I believe I don't know how to upload the image in the Forum with the Flickr quality. Any suggestion is appreciated.

Its all good. dpr images are terrible. just click on the "original" at the bottom left hand corner and it will show the good file.

Don

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gardenersassistant Veteran Member • Posts: 9,077
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Never mind first macro shot - I think that is really good, not just image quality but composition too. And as a first macro shot, impressive.

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Honestly better than my first shot -well done!

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Peter in Canberra Senior Member • Posts: 1,124
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great shot.

wolf spider?

OP kpr1291 Forum Member • Posts: 52
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Thank you everyone!

I've been aggressively reading here and watching tutorials on Youtube for about a month ago, so I thought it was time for me to get down to practice. First, I stumbled upon with the Raynox-250 as a simple and economic starting point since I don't own a dedicated macro lens; at the same time I bought a budget flash and a cheap Altura diffuser.

I've been lockdown down at home, so I wouldn't loose time shooting at the first moving thing I could find lol.

I've seen some of you guys work and they are outstanding! Really inspires me as a Wildlife shooter to go beyond from what human's eyes can see.

Best,

Kevin

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Since you're using Denoise AI, why not also use AI Gigapixel to sharpen it up? Here's an example of the difference it can make (enlarge image to see the animation, it's just a quick switch between original and enhanced)...

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kpr1291 wrote:

Hello,

This is my first macro photography from a Spider. May not be the sharpest shot since I was hand holding and I shot it at F/16. The point is to get feedback so I can improve my macro shooting. I also photograph diverse wildlife and birds.

Equipment:

  1. Canon 90D
  2. Tamron SP 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di VC
  3. Raynox DCR-250 Macro conversion lens
  4. TTL 600 Godox Flash shot wireless with diffuser on.

Edited in Lightroom and Topaz Denoise AI.

Location: North Pacific of Costa Rica. (No ID, I believe is a Wolf Spider)

You are right, this is a female wolf spider, appears to be of Hogna genus, but I am not a scientist.

Since you asked for feedback, you might want to consider a crop and removing the excess upper/left area of the image, like so:

This would make your subject's interesting core details the more noticeable:

From there (and this is a personal choice), I would remove the "red color wash" from the entire image, while trying to keep the animal's own authentic color intact. Below may not be perfect (and others may disagree with the premise in general), but this is what I mean by removing "the red color wash":

To my eye, the color of the wolf spider is true, but the "red wash" is removed from the overall image. I am sure the coloration could be tweaked more perfectly than what I've done, but this is just a quick fix to give you an idea.

Everything else about the image is excellent (focus, lack of noise, etc.), so it seems to me you very familiar with shooting in general.

One more thing: although one user said, "Always use flash," I completely disagree: use beautiful natural light, whenever possible. I do agree that some subjects demand the use of flash, due to movement. I also agree, when hand-holding, it's probably best to use flash.

However, wolf spiders (crab spiders, sometimes lynx spiders, etc.) will often sit completely motionless. So, with a tripod, and by dropping the shutter, you can obtain some really nice, clear shots in natural light ... that will give you a range of colors that are a bit more subtle.

Happy shooting,

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Agree with all. For my taste I would add eye edit too. The small grey squares would convert into disc.

Very well done for 1st macro shot.

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John Koerner wrote:

kpr1291 wrote:

Hello,

This is my first macro photography from a Spider. May not be the sharpest shot since I was hand holding and I shot it at F/16. The point is to get feedback so I can improve my macro shooting. I also photograph diverse wildlife and birds.

Equipment:

  1. Canon 90D
  2. Tamron SP 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di VC
  3. Raynox DCR-250 Macro conversion lens
  4. TTL 600 Godox Flash shot wireless with diffuser on.

Edited in Lightroom and Topaz Denoise AI.

Location: North Pacific of Costa Rica. (No ID, I believe is a Wolf Spider)

You are right, this is a female wolf spider, appears to be of Hogna genus, but I am not a scientist.

Since you asked for feedback, you might want to consider a crop and removing the excess upper/left area of the image, like so:

This would make your subject's interesting core details the more noticeable:

From there (and this is a personal choice), I would remove the "red color wash" from the entire image, while trying to keep the animal's own authentic color intact. Below may not be perfect (and others may disagree with the premise in general), but this is what I mean by removing "the red color wash":

To my eye, the color of the wolf spider is true, but the "red wash" is removed from the overall image. I am sure the coloration could be tweaked more perfectly than what I've done, but this is just a quick fix to give you an idea.

Everything else about the image is excellent (focus, lack of noise, etc.), so it seems to me you very familiar with shooting in general.

One more thing: although one user said, "Always use flash," I completely disagree: use beautiful natural light, whenever possible. I do agree that some subjects demand the use of flash, due to movement. I also agree, when hand-holding, it's probably best to use flash.

I want to know how you hold a D5 with a 200mm macro lens in one hand and a flash with a small diffuser with the other

However, wolf spiders (crab spiders, sometimes lynx spiders, etc.) will often sit completely motionless. So, with a tripod, and by dropping the shutter, you can obtain some really nice, clear shots in natural light ... that will give you a range of colors that are a bit more subtle.

Happy shooting,

Question. have you played with tone mapping yet for close up insects ?

Don

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Donald B wrote:

Question. have you played with tone mapping yet for close up insects ?

Don

Don the only thing he did was suck all the life, and color, out of the OP's photo.

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Donald B wrote:

I want to know how you hold a D5 with a 200mm macro lens in one hand and a flash with a small diffuser with the other

I don't typically shoot macro with the D5 ... or with flash.

When I do use flash, I use either the D850 or Z7 with a mounted flash.

Question. have you played with tone mapping yet for close up insects ?

Don

No, but I would watch any tutorial to learn more about it.

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Don the only thing he did was suck all the life, and color, out of the OP's photo.

The threatened, yapping mutt returns.

That's not "all I did," little man. I framed the image more favorably, first of all ... and I sucked the excess (unrealistic) color out of the image as the next suggestion. Or do your eyes really see "a red wash" all over the rocks and background normally?

The truth is, all you did, in your first post, was nothing ... and all you've done here is turn a constructive suggestion into another chest-pounding session for your insecure self.

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John Koerner wrote:

Donald B wrote:

I want to know how you hold a D5 with a 200mm macro lens in one hand and a flash with a small diffuser with the other

I don't typically shoot macro with the D5 ... or with flash.

When I do use flash, I use either the D850 or Z7 with a mounted flash.

Question. have you played with tone mapping yet for close up insects ?

Don

No, but I would watch any tutorial to learn more about it.

Ive seen some really nice close up images using it but they never discuss there processing workflow .There's a guy that has some impressive phone close ups. I would like to match.

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John Koerner wrote:

John K wrote:

Don the only thing he did was suck all the life, and color, out of the OP's photo.

The threatened, yapping mutt returns.

That's not "all I did," little man. I framed the image more favorably, first of all ... and I sucked the excess (unrealistic) color out of the image as the next suggestion. Or do your eyes really see "a red wash" all over the rocks and background normally?

The truth is, all you did, in your first post, was nothing ... and all you've done here is turn a constructive suggestion into another chest-pounding session for your insecure self.

So easy to hook you like a fish

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Donald B wrote:

Ive seen some really nice close up images using it but they never discuss there processing workflow .There's a guy that has some impressive phone close ups. I would like to match.

Yes, there are many photographers whose post-processing skills are out of this world. I have improved my own, but only marginally. I use Nik software plugins, and (sometimes layers) to do certain work.

Funny that you bring this up, because I had just told myself I am going to look up some YouTube tutorials over the weekend (not for tonemapping specifically), but to try to broaden my usage of software to process my images better.

Cheers,

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John K wrote:

So easy to hook you like a fish

So typical that you play games like a snot-nosed boy.

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John Koerner wrote:

John K wrote:

So easy to hook you like a fish

So typical that you play games like a snot-nosed boy.

You should really sell your camera gear and use the money on a therapist...

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