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RX100 broken or ????

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NicholasD
NicholasD Senior Member • Posts: 1,346
RX100 broken or ????

I have a first generation RX100 - really nice little camera. It gets a lot of use for personal and business use. It no longer works and I'm thinking it's gone for good. But thought I'd ask those who have much more experience with these cameras than I do.

When turning on, the lens extends, but the back screen only shows this:   (the lens is against a table but even when it is not covered, it still is a fully dark screen)

After a few seconds, it turns to this....   And it will stay that way indefinitely.

When the camera is turned on, there is a definite clunking noise. But when I shake it, nothing is loose inside. The camera does get a lot of use. I don't baby it, but it doesn't get abused. No obvious miscues - drops, getting wet, etc.  Battery fully charged, SD card replaced. I'm assuming something simply broke but if anyone has any ideas or has seen this before, I would love to hear about it.

Thanks, Nick

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Lensmate
Lensmate Veteran Member • Posts: 8,173
Re: RX100 broken or ????
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NicholasD wrote:

I have a first generation RX100 - really nice little camera. It gets a lot of use for personal and business use. It no longer works and I'm thinking it's gone for good. But thought I'd ask those who have much more experience with these cameras than I do.

When turning on, the lens extends, but the back screen only shows this: (the lens is against a table but even when it is not covered, it still is a fully dark screen)

After a few seconds, it turns to this.... And it will stay that way indefinitely.

When the camera is turned on, there is a definite clunking noise. But when I shake it, nothing is loose inside. The camera does get a lot of use. I don't baby it, but it doesn't get abused. No obvious miscues - drops, getting wet, etc. Battery fully charged, SD card replaced. I'm assuming something simply broke but if anyone has any ideas or has seen this before, I would love to hear about it.

Thanks, Nick

How old is the battery? Have you tried plugging the camera into the wall socket, wait a few minutes, and then cycle the on/off whilst still plugged into the wall outlet?

-Martin P

https://www.flickr.com/photos/photosauraus_rex/

NicholasD
OP NicholasD Senior Member • Posts: 1,346
Re: RX100 broken or ????

Lensmate wrote:

NicholasD wrote:

I have a first generation RX100 - really nice little camera. It gets a lot of use for personal and business use. It no longer works and I'm thinking it's gone for good. But thought I'd ask those who have much more experience with these cameras than I do.

When turning on, the lens extends, but the back screen only shows this: (the lens is against a table but even when it is not covered, it still is a fully dark screen)

After a few seconds, it turns to this.... And it will stay that way indefinitely.

When the camera is turned on, there is a definite clunking noise. But when I shake it, nothing is loose inside. The camera does get a lot of use. I don't baby it, but it doesn't get abused. No obvious miscues - drops, getting wet, etc. Battery fully charged, SD card replaced. I'm assuming something simply broke but if anyone has any ideas or has seen this before, I would love to hear about it.

Thanks, Nick

How old is the battery? Have you tried plugging the camera into the wall socket, wait a few minutes, and then cycle the on/off whilst still plugged into the wall outlet?

-Martin P

https://www.flickr.com/photos/photosauraus_rex/

Battery is original to the camera - LR says my earliest RX100 images are from Jan 2013. I had already tried what you suggest and same thing. If I were to guess one likely cause, I would say battery. But wanted to rule out other causes before buying a new battery.

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User4286416121 Senior Member • Posts: 1,221
Re: RX100 broken or ????

Any luck?  Hoping a battery or such fix.

Andrew Butterfield Senior Member • Posts: 2,557
Re: RX100 broken or ????

I was thinking battery too. I had a problem with one battery where the lens wouldn't zoom properly when I had the EVF 'up' and the screen angled out.

This isn't the same obviously but the RX100 may be generally sensitive to batteries that are on their way out.

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Robbbbert Regular Member • Posts: 156
Re: RX100 broken or ????

Would suggest,

a different battery

Reset

or it could be a gunk or dust issue.

See this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNZMMl25qJQ

66GTO Veteran Member • Posts: 4,312
Re: RX100 broken or ????

Where do you live? Maybe close enough to someone on the forum who might let you try a different battery without having to buy one that you can't return.....

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tbcass
tbcass Forum Pro • Posts: 57,147
Re: RX100 broken or ????

NicholasD wrote:

Battery is original to the camera - LR says my earliest RX100 images are from Jan 2013. I had already tried what you suggest and same thing. If I were to guess one likely cause, I would say battery. But wanted to rule out other causes before buying a new battery.

I had to replace my RX100 battery when it was 5 years old so you were due.

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NicholasD
OP NicholasD Senior Member • Posts: 1,346
Re: RX100 broken or ????

NicholasD wrote:

I have a first generation RX100 - really nice little camera. It gets a lot of use for personal and business use. It no longer works and I'm thinking it's gone for good. But thought I'd ask those who have much more experience with these cameras than I do.

When turning on, the lens extends, but the back screen only shows this: (the lens is against a table but even when it is not covered, it still is a fully dark screen)

After a few seconds, it turns to this.... And it will stay that way indefinitely.

When the camera is turned on, there is a definite clunking noise. But when I shake it, nothing is loose inside. The camera does get a lot of use. I don't baby it, but it doesn't get abused. No obvious miscues - drops, getting wet, etc. Battery fully charged, SD card replaced. I'm assuming something simply broke but if anyone has any ideas or has seen this before, I would love to hear about it.

Thanks, Nick

A number of responses today - thank you all for taking the time....

I think I have it figured out, but nothing definite yet. I too thought it was a battery issue. I ended up buying a new Sony branded battery - no change. So I was inclined to write the whole thing off and then a few minutes on google steered me in a different direction. Apparently, a couple of screws on the bottom plate, when over tightened, can cause the lens to stick or otherwise not extend fully. My best guess is that the tightened screws put some level of stress on the lens mount mechanism and over time, enough goo and gunk get drawn into the lens housing that the added resistance causes some type of interlock to shutdown the camera. Just a guess, nothing more. But the following links are illuminating

Ifixt description is a quick overview. This youtube video is very helpful and this video doesn't suggest a solution, but certainly indicates a similar problem.

In my case, the lens doesn't extend at all - may have to try to clean with air as noted in 2nd video in addition to playing around with the screws. Been busy at work so haven't had time to find a small enough Phillips screwdriver to remove the bottom plate screws. Anyone with  suggestions as to specific size of screwdriver? Otherwise, I'll take the camera to a computer repair outfit and see if they have something in stock that works.

Again, thanks all for your interest - will keep folks informed.

 NicholasD's gear list:NicholasD's gear list
Sony RX100 Nikon D40 Nikon D7200 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G II Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G +7 more
User4286416121 Senior Member • Posts: 1,221
Re: RX100 broken or ????
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Probably JIS screwdriver

NicholasD
OP NicholasD Senior Member • Posts: 1,346
Re: RX100 broken or ????
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User4286416121 wrote:

Probably JIS screwdriver

Thanks. This is very helpful!

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NicholasD
OP NicholasD Senior Member • Posts: 1,346
Re: RX100 broken or ????
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NicholasD wrote:

NicholasD wrote:

I have a first generation RX100 - really nice little camera. It gets a lot of use for personal and business use. It no longer works and I'm thinking it's gone for good. But thought I'd ask those who have much more experience with these cameras than I do.

When turning on, the lens extends, but the back screen only shows this: (the lens is against a table but even when it is not covered, it still is a fully dark screen)

After a few seconds, it turns to this.... And it will stay that way indefinitely.

When the camera is turned on, there is a definite clunking noise. But when I shake it, nothing is loose inside. The camera does get a lot of use. I don't baby it, but it doesn't get abused. No obvious miscues - drops, getting wet, etc. Battery fully charged, SD card replaced. I'm assuming something simply broke but if anyone has any ideas or has seen this before, I would love to hear about it.

Thanks, Nick

A number of responses today - thank you all for taking the time....

I think I have it figured out, but nothing definite yet. I too thought it was a battery issue. I ended up buying a new Sony branded battery - no change. So I was inclined to write the whole thing off and then a few minutes on google steered me in a different direction. Apparently, a couple of screws on the bottom plate, when over tightened, can cause the lens to stick or otherwise not extend fully. My best guess is that the tightened screws put some level of stress on the lens mount mechanism and over time, enough goo and gunk get drawn into the lens housing that the added resistance causes some type of interlock to shutdown the camera. Just a guess, nothing more. But the following links are illuminating

Ifixt description is a quick overview. This youtube video is very helpful and this video doesn't suggest a solution, but certainly indicates a similar problem.

In my case, the lens doesn't extend at all - may have to try to clean with air as noted in 2nd video in addition to playing around with the screws. Been busy at work so haven't had time to find a small enough Phillips screwdriver to remove the bottom plate screws. Anyone with suggestions as to specific size of screwdriver? Otherwise, I'll take the camera to a computer repair outfit and see if they have something in stock that works.

Again, thanks all for your interest - will keep folks informed.

Update - I bought a set of JIS screwdrivers ( thanks @User4286416121 for the tip) and removed all 5 screws from the camera bottom plate. I didn't remove the plate, but did work it a bit to loosen it very very slightly. And viola, the camera worked:

Sony RX100 with five JIS size 0000 screws. Image is live (compare with image above)

Image on camera LCD is of photo of screwdriver set...

Other than my guess described above, I don't have the slightest idea why this should have made any difference. I reinstalled the 5 screws and snugged them a bit but certainly didn't tighten them all the way. Camera seems to work..... Fingers crossed.

Total investment $35 for new battery (now a spare) and $20 for Vessel screwdriver set. I'm kind of a tool guy (my son says I'm kind of a tool...) You can certainly buy cheap tools, but Vessel and Moody seem well regarded and my suggestion would be to stick with them or a similar level of quality. Note that the bottom plate screws on the RX100 are size 0000 and many of the JIS drive sets only go to 000 (next size larger). I would not use a Phillips screwdriver on these very small JIS screws. Most likely, you'll round out the slots making removal all but impossible....

I would be most interested in hearing of similar stories, particularly if someone has a definitive answer as to what's going on.

Nick

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Lensmate
Lensmate Veteran Member • Posts: 8,173
Re: RX100 broken or ????
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NicholasD wrote:

NicholasD wrote:

NicholasD wrote:

I have a first generation RX100 - really nice little camera. It gets a lot of use for personal and business use. It no longer works and I'm thinking it's gone for good. But thought I'd ask those who have much more experience with these cameras than I do.

When turning on, the lens extends, but the back screen only shows this: (the lens is against a table but even when it is not covered, it still is a fully dark screen)

After a few seconds, it turns to this.... And it will stay that way indefinitely.

When the camera is turned on, there is a definite clunking noise. But when I shake it, nothing is loose inside. The camera does get a lot of use. I don't baby it, but it doesn't get abused. No obvious miscues - drops, getting wet, etc. Battery fully charged, SD card replaced. I'm assuming something simply broke but if anyone has any ideas or has seen this before, I would love to hear about it.

Thanks, Nick

A number of responses today - thank you all for taking the time....

I think I have it figured out, but nothing definite yet. I too thought it was a battery issue. I ended up buying a new Sony branded battery - no change. So I was inclined to write the whole thing off and then a few minutes on google steered me in a different direction. Apparently, a couple of screws on the bottom plate, when over tightened, can cause the lens to stick or otherwise not extend fully. My best guess is that the tightened screws put some level of stress on the lens mount mechanism and over time, enough goo and gunk get drawn into the lens housing that the added resistance causes some type of interlock to shutdown the camera. Just a guess, nothing more. But the following links are illuminating

Ifixt description is a quick overview. This youtube video is very helpful and this video doesn't suggest a solution, but certainly indicates a similar problem.

In my case, the lens doesn't extend at all - may have to try to clean with air as noted in 2nd video in addition to playing around with the screws. Been busy at work so haven't had time to find a small enough Phillips screwdriver to remove the bottom plate screws. Anyone with suggestions as to specific size of screwdriver? Otherwise, I'll take the camera to a computer repair outfit and see if they have something in stock that works.

Again, thanks all for your interest - will keep folks informed.

Update - I bought a set of JIS screwdrivers ( thanks @User4286416121 for the tip) and removed all 5 screws from the camera bottom plate. I didn't remove the plate, but did work it a bit to loosen it very very slightly. And viola, the camera worked:

Other than my guess described above, I don't have the slightest idea why this should have made any difference. I reinstalled the 5 screws and snugged them a bit but certainly didn't tighten them all the way. Camera seems to work..... Fingers crossed.

Total investment $35 for new battery (now a spare) and $20 for Vessel screwdriver set. I'm kind of a tool guy (my son says I'm kind of a tool...) You can certainly buy cheap tools, but Vessel and Moody seem well regarded and my suggestion would be to stick with them or a similar level of quality. Note that the bottom plate screws on the RX100 are size 0000 and many of the JIS drive sets only go to 000 (next size larger). I would not use a Phillips screwdriver on these very small JIS screws. Most likely, you'll round out the slots making removal all but impossible....

I would be most interested in hearing of similar stories, particularly if someone has a definitive answer as to what's going on.

Nick

Thanks for sharing....good to know.Well done!

-Martin P
https://www.flickr.com/photos/photosauraus_rex/

User4286416121 Senior Member • Posts: 1,221
Re: RX100 broken or ????

Congratulations!  You did it!  Yes JIS, Japanese Industrial Standard type screwdriver.  I guess I got lucky, but was pretty sure there was a good chance of the screws being JIS. You are absolutely correct that using a Phillips would strip them out.  A little ironic since JIS is designed to prevent this.  Which it does.

Thank you for the note on sizes.   I better make sure I have a full compliment of tools.  Ooh have to order tools the horrors...

Again, congratulations glad it works.

elliottnewcomb Forum Pro • Posts: 18,224
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Congrats, and good info to know, thanks.

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NicholasD
OP NicholasD Senior Member • Posts: 1,346
Re: RX100 broken or ????
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User4286416121 wrote:

Congratulations! You did it! Yes JIS, Japanese Industrial Standard type screwdriver. I guess I got lucky, but was pretty sure there was a good chance of the screws being JIS. You are absolutely correct that using a Phillips would strip them out. A little ironic since JIS is designed to prevent this. Which it does.

Thank you for the note on sizes. I better make sure I have a full compliment of tools. Ooh have to order tools the horrors...

Again, congratulations glad it works.

Thanks again. Having the right tool was the key - a lesson learned again (not so much having the right tool, but the lesson usually revolves around what happens when you have the wrong tool.....   The following is a little treatise on tools, source unknown, that is best appreciated if one has experience in "fixing" British cars and bikes.... But easily understood by anyone who has tried to repair anything.

**************

HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate expensive parts not far from the object we are trying to hit.

MECHANIC’S KNIFE: Used to open and slice through the contents of cardboard cartons delivered to your front door, works particularly well on boxes containing seats and motorcycle jackets.

ELECTRIC HAND DRILL: Normally used for spinning steel pop rivets in their holes until you die of old age but is also works great for drilling mounting holes in fenders just above the brake line that goes to the rear wheel.

PLIERS: Used to round off bolt heads.

HACKSAW: One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board principle. It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more dismal your future becomes.

VICE-GRIPS: Used to round off bolt heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer intense welding heat to the palm of your hand.

OXYACETYLENE TORCH: Used almost exclusively for lighting various flammable objects in your garage on fire. Also handy for igniting the grease inside a brake drum you’re trying the get the bearing grease out of.

WHITWORTH SOCKETS: Once used for working on older British cars and motorcycles, they are now used mainly for impersonating that 9/16 or ½ inch socket you’ve been searching for the last 15 minutes.

DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest and flings your beer across the room, splattering it against that freshly painted part you were drying.

WIRE WHEEL: Cleans rust off old bolts and then throws them somewhere under the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprint whorls and hard-earned guitar calluses in about the time it takes to say “ouc…..”

HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering a motorcycle to the ground after you have installed your new front disk brake set-up, trapping the jack handle firmly under the front fender.

EIGHT-FOOT LONG DOUGLASS FIR 2X4: used for levering a motorcycle upward off a hydraulic jack.

TWEEZERS: A tool for removing wood splinters.

PHONE: Tool for calling your neighbor to see if he has another hydraulic floor jack.

SNAP-ON GASKET SCRAPER: Theoretically useful as a sandwich tool for spreading mayonnaise, used mainly for getting dog doo off your boot.

E-Z OUT BOLT AND STUD EXTRACTOR: A tool that snaps off in bolt holes and is ten times harder than any known drill bit.

TIMING LIGHT: A stroboscopic instrument for illuminating grease build up.

TWO-TON HYDRAULIC ENGINE HOIST: A handy tool for testing the tensile strength of battery ground straps and brake lines you may have forgotten to disconnect.

CRAFTSMAN ½ X 16 INCH SCREWDRIVER: A large motor mount prying tool that inexplicably has an accurately machined screwdriver tip on the end without the handle.

BATTERY ELECTROLYTE TESTER: A handy tool for transferring sulfuric acid from a car battery to the inside of your tool box after determining that your battery is dead as a door nail, just as you had thought.

METAL SNIPS: See hacksaw.

TROUBLE LIGHT: The mechanic’s own tanning booth. Sometimes called a drop light, it is a good source of vitamin D, the “sunshine vitamin”, which is not otherwise found under motorcycles at night. Health benefits aside, its main purpose is to consume 40-watt light bulbs at about the same rate that 105-mm Howitzer shells might be used during, say, the first few hours of the Battle of the Bulge. More often dark than light, its name is somewhat misleading.

PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: Normally used to stab the lids of old-style paper and tin oil cans and splash oil on your shirt, can also be used as, the name implies, to round off Phillips screw heads and can double as an oil filter removal wrench by stabbing through stubborn oil filters.

AIR COMPRESSOR: A machine that takes energy produced in a coal-burning power plant 200 miles away and transforms it into compressed air that travels by hose to a Chicago Pneumatic impact wrench that grips rusty bolts last tightened 75 years ago by someone in Springfield and rounds them off.

PRYBAR: A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50-cent part.

HOSE CUTTER: A tool used to cut hoses ½ inch too short.

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User4286416121 Senior Member • Posts: 1,221
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Perfect. So true.

Rambow
Rambow Senior Member • Posts: 2,949
Yes it's broken.

Looks like a lens malfunction. Replace the lens or the camera.

Since the lens mechanism is made from plastic, they won't last for long. At this price point, all moving parts should be made from metal, not plastic.

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NicholasD
OP NicholasD Senior Member • Posts: 1,346
Re: Yes it's broken. (No, it's not....;)
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Rambow wrote:

Looks like a lens malfunction. Replace the lens or the camera.

Since the lens mechanism is made from plastic, they won't last for long. At this price point, all moving parts should be made from metal, not plastic.

Story has a happy ending - please read entire thread.

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D Lynch Veteran Member • Posts: 5,419
Re: RX100 broken or ????

NicholasD wrote:

NicholasD wrote:

NicholasD wrote:

I have a first generation RX100 - really nice little camera. It gets a lot of use for personal and business use. It no longer works and I'm thinking it's gone for good. But thought I'd ask those who have much more experience with these cameras than I do.

When turning on, the lens extends, but the back screen only shows this: (the lens is against a table but even when it is not covered, it still is a fully dark screen)

After a few seconds, it turns to this.... And it will stay that way indefinitely.

When the camera is turned on, there is a definite clunking noise. But when I shake it, nothing is loose inside. The camera does get a lot of use. I don't baby it, but it doesn't get abused. No obvious miscues - drops, getting wet, etc. Battery fully charged, SD card replaced. I'm assuming something simply broke but if anyone has any ideas or has seen this before, I would love to hear about it.

Thanks, Nick

A number of responses today - thank you all for taking the time....

I think I have it figured out, but nothing definite yet. I too thought it was a battery issue. I ended up buying a new Sony branded battery - no change. So I was inclined to write the whole thing off and then a few minutes on google steered me in a different direction. Apparently, a couple of screws on the bottom plate, when over tightened, can cause the lens to stick or otherwise not extend fully. My best guess is that the tightened screws put some level of stress on the lens mount mechanism and over time, enough goo and gunk get drawn into the lens housing that the added resistance causes some type of interlock to shutdown the camera. Just a guess, nothing more. But the following links are illuminating

Ifixt description is a quick overview. This youtube video is very helpful and this video doesn't suggest a solution, but certainly indicates a similar problem.

In my case, the lens doesn't extend at all - may have to try to clean with air as noted in 2nd video in addition to playing around with the screws. Been busy at work so haven't had time to find a small enough Phillips screwdriver to remove the bottom plate screws. Anyone with suggestions as to specific size of screwdriver? Otherwise, I'll take the camera to a computer repair outfit and see if they have something in stock that works.

Again, thanks all for your interest - will keep folks informed.

Update - I bought a set of JIS screwdrivers ( thanks @User4286416121 for the tip) and removed all 5 screws from the camera bottom plate. I didn't remove the plate, but did work it a bit to loosen it very very slightly. And viola, the camera worked:

Sony RX100 with five JIS size 0000 screws. Image is live (compare with image above)

Image on camera LCD is of photo of screwdriver set...

Other than my guess described above, I don't have the slightest idea why this should have made any difference. I reinstalled the 5 screws and snugged them a bit but certainly didn't tighten them all the way. Camera seems to work..... Fingers crossed.

Total investment $35 for new battery (now a spare) and $20 for Vessel screwdriver set. I'm kind of a tool guy (my son says I'm kind of a tool...) You can certainly buy cheap tools, but Vessel and Moody seem well regarded and my suggestion would be to stick with them or a similar level of quality. Note that the bottom plate screws on the RX100 are size 0000 and many of the JIS drive sets only go to 000 (next size larger). I would not use a Phillips screwdriver on these very small JIS screws. Most likely, you'll round out the slots making removal all but impossible....

I would be most interested in hearing of similar stories, particularly if someone has a definitive answer as to what's going on.

Nick

Thanks Nick!  Your post is very helpful  I’ve bookmarked it

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