Panasonic GX10 (rumoured, FT4)

https://www.43rumors.com/ft4-new-panasonic-gx10-scheduled-to-be-released-during-first-half-of-2020/#comment-4766558509

Seems we'll be getting the Panasonic GX10. And supposedly with a mic input (Horray!).

Now, if only it has updated the absolutely ancient EVF? They can't still reuse that 7(?) year old EVF can they? Just make it GX8 quality. They can keep the EVF size the same as the GX7 though changing to 4:3 would be useful.

Otherwise, besides the usual updates, and not that they would be deal-breakers but, a no crop 4k video (or a slight crop) would be very much appreciated. Weatherproofing would also be very much appreciated. Doubtful, or at least haven't heard of any news but a new sensor would also be nice.

Oh, live composite and better grip too, please

(Yeah, not asking much )

Panasonic have a habit of releasing cameras that are two steps forward and one step back compared with their predecessor. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this will be a clear, if incremental, improvement over the GX9, and doesn't try to "fix" things that aren't broken.

A nicer EVF would be appreciated, but personally I find the current one perfectly usable. For me improved AFC would be a higher priority.

The only thing that would completely kill my interest in it would be if they replaced the tilt screen with a side articulated one. I think I'd start seriously looking for a different camera system if there was no tilt screen upgrade option likely in the future.

SteveY80 wrote:

Panasonic have a habit of releasing cameras that are two steps forward and one step back compared with their predecessor. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this will be a clear, if incremental, improvement over the GX9, and doesn't try to "fix" things that aren't broken.

Sure, for some of their lower-end stuff they have on occasion.

GF1->GF2->GF3

GX7->GX85/80

and depending on how you look at it, GX8->GX9 though I consider the GX9 more of an update to GX85.

etc.

but certainly not for the GHx series, nor the G9. Those moved a few steps forward each time.

A nicer EVF would be appreciated, but personally I find the current one perfectly usable. For me improved AFC would be a higher priority.

AFC is certainly a priority but the EVF hasn't changed since 2013 (GX7) and wasn't all that impressive back then let alone now.

The only thing that would completely kill my interest in it would be if they replaced the tilt screen with a side articulated one. I think I'd start seriously looking for a different camera system if there was no tilt screen upgrade option likely in the future.

For a smaller bodied GX10, sure, a FAS is probably not warranted but if the GX10 is an actual GX8 replacement (yeah, won't be, I know, but I can dream), then I would prefer a FAS.

uniball wrote:

While I’ve defended the evf on my GX85, I wouldn’t consider a purchase unless it’s replaced with larger and higher resolution. Otherwise the GX85 delivers all I need.

back then, If it wasn't for the EVF. I waited and upgraded my GF1 with the GX8 when it came out instead. So, I certainly wouldn't get the GX10 if it stayed with the same 7-year-old EVF.

uniball wrote:

While I’ve defended the evf on my GX85, I wouldn’t consider a purchase unless it’s replaced with larger and higher resolution. Otherwise the GX85 delivers all I need.

As a fellow GX85 user, I have really only three tweaks for me to upgrade.

1)  Viewfinder: this is a must for me to make a change at this point.  At least change format to 4:3 so that you use the whole screen when taking still pictures!

2)  Battery life:  Battery life of the GX9 is worse than on the GX85 which is ridiculous.

3)  Weather-resistant:  Granted; my GX85 has done well in some inclement weather conditions, but I would like to have some "official" weather protection added.

In return (especially if you improved ergonomics), I would accept a slight increase in size, say something in-between the present GX9 and the former GX8- but not quite as large as the GX8 was.

Regards,

Bernard

peppermonkey wrote:

https://www.43rumors.com/ft4-new-panasonic-gx10-scheduled-to-be-released-during-first-half-of-2020/#comment-4766558509

Seems we'll be getting the Panasonic GX10. And supposedly with a mic input (Horray!).

Now, if only it has updated the absolutely ancient EVF? They can't still reuse that 7(?) year old EVF can they? Just make it GX8 quality. They can keep the EVF size the same as the GX7 though changing to 4:3 would be useful.

Otherwise, besides the usual updates, and not that they would be deal-breakers but, a no crop 4k video (or a slight crop) would be very much appreciated. Weatherproofing would also be very much appreciated. Doubtful, or at least haven't heard of any news but a new sensor would also be nice.

Oh, live composite and better griptoo, please

(Yeah, not asking much )

Looks like what you're asking for is actually a GX8 MkII... 

WhiteBeard wrote:

peppermonkey wrote:

https://www.43rumors.com/ft4-new-panasonic-gx10-scheduled-to-be-released-during-first-half-of-2020/#comment-4766558509

Seems we'll be getting the Panasonic GX10. And supposedly with a mic input (Horray!).

Now, if only it has updated the absolutely ancient EVF? They can't still reuse that 7(?) year old EVF can they? Just make it GX8 quality. They can keep the EVF size the same as the GX7 though changing to 4:3 would be useful.

Otherwise, besides the usual updates, and not that they would be deal-breakers but, a no crop 4k video (or a slight crop) would be very much appreciated. Weatherproofing would also be very much appreciated. Doubtful, or at least haven't heard of any news but a new sensor would also be nice.

Oh, live composite and better griptoo, please

(Yeah, not asking much )

Looks like what you're asking for is actually a GX8 MkII...

Yes, it is! Lol. That's pretty much what I would like Albeit, a little smaller would be nice, though not a deal-breaker. Bigger probably will be though.

My top 10 wish list:

1. Weather sealing

2. PDAF (I know...)

3. Mic jack - glad it’s announced!

4. Selfie screen like a6400. Otherwise GX9 tilt screen and smoother app connectivity. no FAS

5. 6.5 stops Dual IS

6. keystone correction in camera

7. hi-res mode

8. rear control dial can be mapped to more things.

9. UHS-II

10. Less long tilting EVF. I don’t care about OLED or 4:3 as much as I care that the GX9 tilt EVF often catches in my bag it pocket. Other improvements are welcome of course.

And offer it body only unlike the GX9 or G95.

Keithpictures wrote:

My top 10 wish list:

1. Weather sealing

2. PDAF (I know...)

3. Mic jack - glad it’s announced!

4. Selfie screen like a6400. Otherwise GX9 tilt screen and smoother app connectivity. no FAS

5. 6.5 stops Dual IS

6. keystone correction in camera

7. hi-res mode

8. rear control dial can be mapped to more things.

9. UHS-II

10. Less long tilting EVF. I don’t care about OLED or 4:3 as much as I care that the GX9 tilt EVF often catches in my bag it pocket. Other improvements are welcome of course.

Agree with most along with faster processing, GX8 or better EVF (which sadly means long) and a full swivel/tilt screen but with the USB, mic and HDMI ports on the right side instead of the left so using it for video isn't hindered by connectors and cables. A GX8 MkII...

ssher wrote:

And offer it body only unlike the GX9 or G95.

Definitely! I realize that the lenses included in these kits are deeply discounted and can be sold for a profit but I would rather avoid the hassle and have a lower-priced body to start with.

If this is GX7iv, it has to show clear improvement over mark iii (GX85), and able to compete with EM5iii, XT30, A6700..

G95 is disappointed in many ways so hope Pana learn lessons..

Wish list

- PDAF

- Weather seal

- meh shutter 1/8000

- Better IBIS

- Base ISO 100

- Improve high ISO performance

- Improved grip

- 1080/120p, uncroped 4K

- USBc

- triaxial screen (like S1)

- new menu (like S1)

- more Fn button

- Photo/video lever like Z50/Z6 (please)

- better tilted up EVF

- same size but improved battery life

- come with new kit lens, Leica 20/1.4

- price $800 if body only

ssher wrote:

And offer it body only unlike the GX9 or G95.

that s a good point too 

peppermonkey wrote:

https://www.43rumors.com/ft4-new-panasonic-gx10-scheduled-to-be-released-during-first-half-of-2020/#comment-4766558509

Seems we'll be getting the Panasonic GX10. And supposedly with a mic input (Horray!).

Now, if only it has updated the absolutely ancient EVF? They can't still reuse that 7(?) year old EVF can they? Just make it GX8 quality. They can keep the EVF size the same as the GX7 though changing to 4:3 would be useful.

Use an OLED like that of G85, might still in 16:9 (so around 0.52x instead of 0.7x in 16:9) to keep the overall size of the body small...

Otherwise, besides the usual updates, and not that they would be deal-breakers but, a no crop 4k video (or a slight crop) would be very much appreciated. Weatherproofing would also be very much appreciated. Doubtful, or at least haven't heard of any news but a new sensor would also be nice.

Oh, live composite and better grip too, please

(Yeah, not asking much )

Yeah I`d like to see a GX8 Mk11 , the GX8 size with the tilting EVF etc with all the bells and whistles of the G9 . It would be a winner Panasonic. Or else I will just stick to my old and trusted GX8 forever.

Kent Ekasak wrote:

If this is GX7iv, it has to show clear improvement over mark iii (GX85), and able to compete with EM5iii, XT30, A6700..

G95 is disappointed in many ways so hope Pana learn lessons..

Wish list

- PDAF

- Weather seal

- meh shutter 1/8000

- Better IBIS

- Base ISO 100

- Improve high ISO performance

- Improved grip

- 1080/120p, uncroped 4K

- USBc

- triaxial screen (like S1)

- new menu (like S1)

- more Fn button

- Photo/video lever like Z50/Z6 (please)

- better tilted up EVF

- same size but improved battery life

- come with new kit lens, Leica 20/1.4

- price $800 if body only

Riiiight. All this, including better EVF + battery life + more Fn buttons which all normally go hand in hand with larger size - not to mention price - with the same GX9 form factor and all that at 800$. You must be in marketing and have a hard time with engineers! And I have yet to mention a non-existent / not even in the planning stage PL 20mm F1.4...