XC 35 f/2

John Gellings wrote:

ArtHeals wrote:

I guess thats the reason their xf 23/2 and xf 35/2 are more popular than the xf 50/2.

No, they are simply more popular focal lengths because they are normal lenses.

And that's the reason why Fuji released a 35mm XC and not a 50, 60 or 75mm XC.

It can be used as a generic lens, for environmental portraits, head and shoulder portraits, Cityscapes, landscapes, street photography, etc...

Many people buying the XC will probably only have a kit lens and the XC (probably from a pack with the camera body).

Of course i would love a 90mm f2 without WR and on a plastic body for €400 or €500.

Or a 50mm f2 without the WR and on a plastic body for €200. But it wouldn't probably sell as much as the 35mm f2.

I can not see the point of releasing this lens. I own 35 f2 and it is ok.

I also own 18-55, but get 16-50 and use it most of the time, but there I have 16mm vs 18mm and half the weight.

But only the weight is not enough for this replace.

I hoped for 35-70mm f2 or f2.8

miroshi wrote:

I can not see the point of releasing this lens. I own 35 f2 and it is ok.

I also own 18-55, but get 16-50 and use it most of the time, but there I have 16mm vs 18mm and half the weight.

But only the weight is not enough for this replace.

I hoped for 35-70mm f2 or f2.8

What's not to get, it's not about weight really as it's a small lens anyway and same or similar optical formula, it's about COST.

And personally at the entry level, or people stepping up from phone cams, I think they'll be way happier with the difference and "look" of a prime vs a variable aperture zoom.

You don't have to buy the lens (or any lens) for your personal needs to understand why Fuji would make it, two different concepts. There's lots of Fuji lenses I don't want, but I understand why they make them, and who would want them. Same thing here.

Probably you are right...

jjz2 wrote:

miroshi wrote:

I can not see the point of releasing this lens. I own 35 f2 and it is ok.

I also own 18-55, but get 16-50 and use it most of the time, but there I have 16mm vs 18mm and half the weight.

But only the weight is not enough for this replace.

I hoped for 35-70mm f2 or f2.8

What's not to get, it's not about weight really as it's a small lens anyway and same or similar optical formula, it's about COST.

And personally at the entry level, or people stepping up from phone cams, I think they'll be way happier with the difference and "look" of a prime vs a variable aperture zoom.

You don't have to buy the lens (or any lens) for your personal needs to understand why Fuji would make it, two different concepts. There's lots of Fuji lenses I don't want, but I understand why they make them, and who would want them. Same thing here.

In a time long ago and a land far away, Nikon released three new lenses to the sound of trumpets and great fanfare.  They were lower cost plastic housing versions of three of their popular lenses for about 1/3 to 1/2 the cost of the regular lenses.  They were the E series lenses offered in 35, 50 and 100 f2.8.  Optically they were good lenses.  They were housed in plastic vs. metal lenses but optically they were good.

They were extremely popular since you got get good lenses for a reasonable price.  They were quite popular.  A person with a FM or FE could have a kit of 3 good lenses for the same price as one of the Nikkor line lenses.  Smart move.

I see this is a similar move on the part of Fuji.  Most likely it will turn out to be a smart move and provide a lower cost entry point for a Fuji system which will allow them to expand their market.

Truman Prevatt wrote:

jjz2 wrote:

miroshi wrote:

I can not see the point of releasing this lens. I own 35 f2 and it is ok.

I also own 18-55, but get 16-50 and use it most of the time, but there I have 16mm vs 18mm and half the weight.

But only the weight is not enough for this replace.

I hoped for 35-70mm f2 or f2.8

What's not to get, it's not about weight really as it's a small lens anyway and same or similar optical formula, it's about COST.

And personally at the entry level, or people stepping up from phone cams, I think they'll be way happier with the difference and "look" of a prime vs a variable aperture zoom.

You don't have to buy the lens (or any lens) for your personal needs to understand why Fuji would make it, two different concepts. There's lots of Fuji lenses I don't want, but I understand why they make them, and who would want them. Same thing here.

In a time long ago and a land far away, Nikon released three new lenses to the sound of trumpets and great fanfare. They were lower cost plastic housing versions of three of their popular lenses for about 1/3 to 1/2 the cost of the regular lenses. They were the E series lenses offered in 35, 50 and 100 f2.8. Optically they were good lenses. They were housed in plastic vs. metal lenses but optically they were good.

They were extremely popular since you got get good lenses for a reasonable price. They were quite popular. A person with a FM or FE could have a kit of 3 good lenses for the same price as one of the Nikkor line lenses. Smart move.

I see this is a similar move on the part of Fuji. Most likely it will turn out to be a smart move and provide a lower cost entry point for a Fuji system which will allow them to expand their market.

Yeah, it's a gateway to get them into the brand instead of going Canon / Sony / Nikon. I don't see it hurting sales, but helping sales. Sure, some users might only ever buy the initial kit, but a lot of them will start buying other lenses as their skills increase and their pocket books become fatter.

John Gellings wrote:

ArtHeals wrote:

I guess thats the reason their xf 23/2 and xf 35/2 are more popular than the xf 50/2.

No, they are simply more popular focal lengths because they are normal lenses.

Exactly and I expect we might see a XC 23 f2 in the near future.

I understand where you're coming from, but I have to admit that as a starting point, the 35mm (50mm equiv) is perfect. I'll give an example :

When I go on trips with friends, and happen to bring a camera and lenses, there's always one point at which I hand the camera to one of them for a more or less extended period of time (if you've never tried that - I highly recommend it, not only will it create great memories, but some of the pics turned out to be spectacular, even if shot by a newbie). The interesting part happens when I ask them what lens do they want, I almost always hear "the small one - in my case the 35".

Why? Well they are used to smartphones, so they don't want to lug around a huge lens, they're too familiar with the wide angle focal length, they really appreciate the authentic depth of field, and most are ultimately very accustomed with fixed focal length setups, since double and triple lens smartphones (with optical zoom) are quite a novelty. Now this could also apply with the 23 f/2 and 50 f/2, but I don't own them, so couldn't comment on that.

So in my mind, if any of them were to get a lens for a fuji camera, it would be the a small and light lens.

JayPhizzt wrote:

yayatosorus wrote:

So as some of you may have noticed, some rumors sites are reporting the announcement of a new entry level iteration (XC) of the much beloved 35mm focal length due tomorrow. It is reported that it will feature an f/2 max aperture, a 43mm filter thread and weight 130g. It will also lack a aperture ring - in line with the other XC lenses design.

Any thoughts on that? Are you worried of a possible cannibalization with the (most certainly) more expensive XF 35 f/2? Thanks for taking the time to read this and have a nice day.

Why? The XF 35/2 has an aperture ring, better build quality(metal) and weather sealing. If you don't care about those things then get the new XC model. There are those of us that do care about those things so I don't think the XC 35/2 will impact the sales of the XF 35/2 that much.

It might since there is a less expensive option for a equivalent optics.  I am sure some stretched to buy the XF 35 f2 before since that was the only option.  However, what Fuji is interested in selling more lenses and more cameras and a less expensive option might result in more 35 f2 lenses being sold with two options than with just one although the sales of the XF 35 f2 might and probably will take a little hit.  But at the end of the day the bean counters should be happy with the results.

jjz2 wrote:

Truman Prevatt wrote:

jjz2 wrote:

miroshi wrote:

I can not see the point of releasing this lens. I own 35 f2 and it is ok.

I also own 18-55, but get 16-50 and use it most of the time, but there I have 16mm vs 18mm and half the weight.

But only the weight is not enough for this replace.

I hoped for 35-70mm f2 or f2.8

What's not to get, it's not about weight really as it's a small lens anyway and same or similar optical formula, it's about COST.

And personally at the entry level, or people stepping up from phone cams, I think they'll be way happier with the difference and "look" of a prime vs a variable aperture zoom.

You don't have to buy the lens (or any lens) for your personal needs to understand why Fuji would make it, two different concepts. There's lots of Fuji lenses I don't want, but I understand why they make them, and who would want them. Same thing here.

In a time long ago and a land far away, Nikon released three new lenses to the sound of trumpets and great fanfare. They were lower cost plastic housing versions of three of their popular lenses for about 1/3 to 1/2 the cost of the regular lenses. They were the E series lenses offered in 35, 50 and 100 f2.8. Optically they were good lenses. They were housed in plastic vs. metal lenses but optically they were good.

They were extremely popular since you got get good lenses for a reasonable price. They were quite popular. A person with a FM or FE could have a kit of 3 good lenses for the same price as one of the Nikkor line lenses. Smart move.

I see this is a similar move on the part of Fuji. Most likely it will turn out to be a smart move and provide a lower cost entry point for a Fuji system which will allow them to expand their market.

Yeah, it's a gateway to get them into the brand instead of going Canon / Sony / Nikon. I don't see it hurting sales, but helping sales. Sure, some users might only ever buy the initial kit, but a lot of them will start buying other lenses as their skills increase and their pocket books become fatter.

Exactly. It is about selling the system. The vast majority of these XC lenses will be sold as a kit with the lower tier bodies.

Think about the market stratification. That adds at least 3 probably 5 more Fujifilm boxes to the shelf of every major dealer that sells Fuji. Add the special or limited offer kits that have multiple lenses.

This adds a variety of new value propositions, where the math may “add up” for more consumers. More WILL choose  Fujifilm X.

All with minimal R&D outlay, just a cheaper gown on the same girl and some new boxes. A smart move!

would I like to see something new? Yes! Would I like to see some mkII versions? Absolutely! This was something they needed to do right now? An emphatic yes.

Can I afford any lens right now? No😢