Canom M50 or Fuji XT100

Face detection works well on the X-T100. Eye detection as well if you're close enough to your subject. AF speed is faster than many would have you believe. It's not an issue. Note that in low light, AF-S works faster than AF-C.

The X-T100 user interface is good and fast, including the touch screen.

The 15-45 lens is good and has a super close minimum focus distance (especially using manual focus) that can allow semi-macro shots. The zoom speed is fine.

Don't listen to reviewers who used the camera's original firmware. And beware of morons who are simply parrotting what others have said about the camera without having ever actually used it.

It's a great camera that will fit your needs. Just buy it.

Read the specs of both cameras,look at the number of native lenses available.Watch the YouTube's(all of them)about xt200.

As an entry level Apsc it's jumped in front of CaNikSony and it's available body only  OR with the consistently good 15-45(I own it).

Better battery life,headphone jack,USB 3.1 charging(power bank too)

Uncropped 4k video,120fps slomo 1080(not 720)

_5+5 exposure comp

3.5 inch screen @ a massive 2.78m dots

A 1.5 crop(not 1.6)

425 AF points(3xmore)

...but I'll have to disagree about the Fuji XC 15-45 F3.5-5.6 IS PZ lens.

To begin with, when the Fuji XC 15-45 Power Zoom kit lens was first released, I was one of the first to give her a go.  I soon found that once I got past the all plasticky construction, optically it was absolutely superb for the genre it occupies.  Yes, it's a power zoom lens and I prefer more normal zoom ring type of scenarios.  But as I mentioned, once I got over this, I was rewarded with images that can keep up with many of the big, much more expensive big boys for the money.

Now the Canon EF-M 15-45 F3.5-6.3 IS STM feels like a much better build quality to be sure - even though it's all plastic also.  But the Canon version has a very poor copy to copy variation history - more so than most lenses in the Canon inventory (I know I've been there).  In addition, the Canon lens is slower on the long end.

On the Fuji XC-15-45, its a bit faster on the long with the maximum aperture of 5.6 as opposed to 6.3 on the Canon.  In addition, the Fuji XC-15-45 - thanks to the 1.5 crop factor on the Fuji cameras in general - winds up giving you the equivalent of a 22.5 MM wide angle, which is huge.  As you may, or may not know, having even an additional 1 MM on the wide end can make a world of difference.  I now have 3 copies of the Fuji XC 15-45 (one silver and two black) and the results I'm getting sometime just astound me.

As for the X-T200, well, I only have the X-T100 (at the moment), and I can easily say without exaggeration that the high ISO capabilities of the Fuji cameras are a cut above the EOS M line (and remember, I use both systems), along with it's superb dynamic range capabilities.

aadi007 wrote:

viska wrote:

Don't do it,the XT-200 is announced.799 with the 15-45.

It's miles ahead of the M50....That Canon 15-45 isn't great.

All the Fuji lenses range from excellent to superb.

Thanks but can you tell me why the XT200 is miles ahead of the M50 , considering my requirements? can you please talk about specific points ? Does anyone in this forum have experience with the XA7? How is the autofocus/ user interface/general performance etc?

The Canon 15-45 isnt great but the Fuji 15-45 isn't great either. I tried the XT100 at a local camera store and it was difficult to operate the 15-45 lens. Also, the Fuji 15-45 felt much cheaper and worse build quality than the Canon 15-45. For the time being, I will be mainly using the kit lens. Also, as I mentioned in my previous post, Canon 11-22mm is a nice wide angle lens available in my budget but Fuji doesn't have anything in similar price range. Good Fuji lenses are much more expensive and way above my budget,.

If you don't see yourself being able to afford any of the Fuji XF lenses, then seriously consider the Canon instead. Also remember you can buy M adapters to fit EFS to M.

aadi007 wrote:

viska wrote:

Don't do it,the XT-200 is announced.799 with the 15-45.

It's miles ahead of the M50....That Canon 15-45 isn't great.

All the Fuji lenses range from excellent to superb.

Thanks but can you tell me why the XT200 is miles ahead of the M50 , considering my requirements? can you please talk about specific points ? Does anyone in this forum have experience with the XA7? How is the autofocus/ user interface/general performance etc?

The Canon 15-45 isnt great but the Fuji 15-45 isn't great either. I tried the XT100 at a local camera store and it was difficult to operate the 15-45 lens. Also, the Fuji 15-45 felt much cheaper and worse build quality than the Canon 15-45. For the time being, I will be mainly using the kit lens. Also, as I mentioned in my previous post, Canon 11-22mm is a nice wide angle lens available in my budget but Fuji doesn't have anything in similar price range. Good Fuji lenses are much more expensive and way above my budget,.

The build quality Fujinon 15-45 isn't premium, and the power zoom is really annoying, but the lens really delivers optically. Can't speak about the Canon 15-45, I've never used one. Also regarding the Fujinon, dpreview says the XT200 will ship with a newer version of the 15-45, the same optically but "zoom/focus dials have been improved".

I own an Xt100, and will be buying the XT200 because, to me the Xt200 resolves the major shortcomings of the XT100:

Joystick, I have a really hard time not changing settings on the XT100, I have other cameras with a joystick, and it's something I much prefer.

Grip, the XT100 looks great but it feels like you're holding a bar of soap, I had to buy a add on grip for it, and I don't like add-on grips as the add unnecessary bulk.

Faster processing, I really don't have any problems with the speed of the XT100, I do have an issue with focus peaking with the XT100, I have some nice manual lenses and find focus peaking nearly unusable on the XT100, I assume this is related to the lack luster processor in the XT100, I can't confirm that focus peaking will be better on the XT200, but susspect it will be.

Even though I have the XT100, I'm looking forward to the new XT200, probably more so than I have to any other new camera, not because I hate the XT100, rather because I like the XT100 very much, but the camera does have a few quirks, and the update basically solves them all.

I suspect single shot IQ between the XT100 & XT200 will be indistinguishable, for me, it's about handling.

Champagne gold FTW.

aadi007 wrote:

Thanks everyone for your replies.

FInally, went with the Fuji XT100 dual kit lens combo

Excellent choice!

Can someone share some of the settings and customizations for XT100?

Under Power Management settings, set High Performance to ON for a quicker shooting experience. This uses a little more battery power but it's worth it.

Under Screen Set-Up settings, set EVF Autorotate Displays to ON to see camera settings right-side-up when using the EVF in portrait orientation.

In AF/MF Setting, under Release/Focus Priority, I prefer AF-S set to FOCUS and AF-C set to RELEASE. That just makes the most sense to me.

In the same settings area, setting AF + MF to ON allows you to fine-tune your focus via the lens' manual-focus ring when holding down the shutter-release button halfway — once you adjust focus to your liking, complete pushing down the shutter-release button fully to take the shot.

Set Pre-AF to OFF. Otherwise, the lens will constantly autofocus on its own, which is annoying.

I will be using mainly aperture priority mode.

Just know that you'll only get a live exposure preview in the LCD and EVF if you shoot in Manual exposure mode. For that, in your Screen Set-Up settings, you need to have Preview Exposure in Manual Mode set to ON and Preview Pic Effect set to ON.

When using Auto-ISO, I have that set to 200-6400, with the minimum shutter speed set to 1/15 second (or whatever minimum shutter speed you feel comfortable hand-holding without camera shake).

What film simulations to use?

I seem to like the standard Provia best so far, or Pro Negative Hi if I want to tone down the color a little. The film simulations are really personal preference. Experiment with all of them and see what you like.

picture settings?

I like noise reduction set to -2 for better detail.

Sharpness set to -2 for naturally less image noise. I can always add sharpness in post if needed.

I keep highlight tone and shadow tone both set to 0.

button customizations etc?

Definitely set the left dial to ISO setting for quick ISO changes. The default is film-simulation setting, but that can be brought up by tapping a little button on the right side of the touch screen. There's another such button right next to it for Focus Mode setting as well.

I set the Fn button to Face/Eye Detection Setting in case I quickly need to change that.

WHat AF modes to use?

AF-S most of the time and usually with Focus Area set to WIDE. Or I tap the touch screen to simultaneously focus and take the shot if the AF isn't choosing the focus point I want.

When shooting people, AF works better with the face/eye detection set to FACE ON / EYE AUTO. I usually leave the setting this way regardless of whether I'm shooting people.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Enjoy your camera!

aadi007 wrote:

Thanks a lot for your replies.

I will be getting the camera on Thursday, eagerly waiting for it.

What sealed the decision was an excellent deal wherein I got the XT100 + 15-45kit + 50-230 zoom for INR Rs 45000 (roughly $630). whereas the Canon M50 +15-45 was INR Rs 49000 ($700). Saved some money and got the zoom lens as well

Cheers

Also, don't forget to upgrade the camera's firmware (maybe even lenses). Google how to do that. The camera received multiple upgrades since its release. One fix I definitely notice is that the touchscreen swipe functions used to be super unreliable with the release firmware. But now, they work as expected.

The XC50-230mm is a great lens optically. I did find it struggled to focus in low light (more so than my snappy 15-45 for example, but then, kind of expected of telephoto+low light). Still, I've taken some of my favorite shots with that lens. What I love the most is the stabilization—really effective. I can shoot as slow as 1/8s shutter with no shake.

Straight out of camera

1/8s shutter speed, handheld, straight out of camera

I couldn't have said it better.  Using both the M50 and X-T100, I can appreciate them both.  However, in many situations (general photography scenarios), I'd reach for the X-T100 before I'd consider using the M50.  And when it comes to high ISO and DR, the X-T100 wins hands down based on my experiences.