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Adusting the exposure when video recording on the Panasonic G7 camera

Started Jan 12, 2020 | Discussions
alcelc
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Re: Adusting the exposure when video recording on the Panasonic G7 camera

uncle dunc wrote:

alcelc wrote:

However auto ISO is limited to still shooting, not allowed on video yet...

I think we're confusing the guy. If you set the camera to M mode on the mode dial, (not Creative Video mode on the mode dial) auto ISO is available. I just tried it on my G7 - Rolled some video and panned between a dark corner and a bright light. It took the camera a couple of seconds to readjust so the bright light wasn't activating the zebras.

Dear friend, I don't own G7.

All I did was consulting with the manual and upon my experience on Panny bodies (6 models including G85 in last 11 years) only. I had not checked whether would G7 allow Auto ISO in M ( still shooting). I expected it is not because its similar generation sibling GX7 does not.

If your Mode dial is not in M-video, I assumed you took video by the red REC button. If so, you are actually using the automatic mode (should = P of M-video). The automatic brightness adjustment was just P tried to maintain a 0ev exposure. Under auto mode, the camera can adjust any parameters from f/stop, Shutter speed to ISO as long as it is available.

While you shoot video, no matter using the automatic video mode by the red REC button or the M-video, any previous setting made in P/S/A/M of still shooting modes will be ignored. Any setting for video must be set under any of the P/S/A/M of M-video mode.

What the Exposure Compensation I suggested to OP is, for the cases that 0ev metering exposure does not give a dark or bright enough frame as we wanted (commonly happened on still shooting).

Wish I can clear it up.

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hindesite Veteran Member • Posts: 4,893
Re: Adusting the exposure when video recording on the Panasonic G7 camera

alcelc wrote:

Brisn5757 wrote:

alcelc wrote:

Brisn5757 wrote:

hindesite wrote:

uncle dunc wrote:

I don't think the G7 has auto ISO, (if it does, I haven't found it)

Of course the G7 has auto ISO. It even has it in M mode for stills.

However the OP is correct in that in video M mode, there is no AutoISO, so the work around is to not use M mode, as you suggest. But AutoISO is also available when you use P, A, or M modes for video, which might be a big help in some situations.

Hi hindesite.

Where exactly is the auto ISO option when I'm in the M mode for video, I'd like to find it in the camera settings. Can you guide me please.

Brian

On G85 and GX85 I do the following:

  • Select M-video on Mode Dial,
  • Tap the icon of M-Video on the upper left corner of LCD to select S in case you are not in M-Video S mode,
  • Set shutter speed to 180 degree rule through the dial (I use the front dial),
  • IIRC hit Up cursor to enter ISO menu, select Auto ISO.

Use either the shutter or the red REC button to start video shooting. If the screen looks too dark or bright for certain period of time (usually a second or so and the camera cannot adjust by itself), use Exposure Compensation.

I suppose G7 should be the same.

Thanks for the info alcelc.

You are welcome.

I've been setting the top dial to the video mode and setting the camera to m-video in the cameras menu so maybe that's why I did not get the auto ISO setting.

IIRC models before GX85 and G85, Panny cameras do not support auto ISO in M. I guess G7 like GX7, no auto ISO in M.

There's yer problem, you are guessing wrong and adding to the confusion. We are not talking about the models before and after the G7 which are not relevant, we are only talking about the G7. There were some firmware updates that may have made the manual slightly inaccurate.

Unlike you, I have a G7 and I can confirm it has AutoISO in all still modes including M; it has AutoISO in "Creative Video" modes P,A,S but does not have AutoISO in "Creative Video" mode M. The ISO settings in Creative Video mode M do not include AutoISO, the lowest setting is 200.

All exactly as the OP has described.

What happens if you have the camera in a still mode and then use the red record button is pretty much anyone's guess, I never use that mode since I can never be sure what settings will be used. The only reason I could consider using that mode is if I wanted to use some of the scene modes or filters in video, I'd rather do that with more control during editing anyway.

However auto ISO is limited to still shooting, not allowed on video yet.

Oh yes it is. In all modes except M.

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alcelc
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Re: Adusting the exposure when video recording on the Panasonic G7 camera

Except my wrong guess on G7 has no Auto ISO in M for still shooting, are we on different page?

After communications I found that the real problem of OP was that he used M mode of M-video. I tried to direct him to shoot in S mode of M-video which has Auto ISO support and it could be the solution. Are we both pointing OP to the same direction?

This particular discussion concerned the red REC button was to clarify Uncle Dunc's suggestion (Mode dial in Still shooting, record video by the REC button) has nothing to do with video.

When my Pannys has M-video, I never use that red REC button anymore. (For avoidance of doubt, and I suppose you know it well, when we are in M-video, start and end video by shutter button or REC button is the same).

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OP Brisn5757 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,540
Re: Adusting the exposure when video recording on the Panasonic G7 camera

uncle dunc wrote:

alcelc wrote:

However auto ISO is limited to still shooting, not allowed on video yet...

I think we're confusing the guy. If you set the camera to M mode on the mode dial, (not Creative Video mode on the mode dial) auto ISO is available. I just tried it on my G7 - Rolled some video and panned between a dark corner and a bright light. It took the camera a couple of seconds to readjust so the bright light wasn't activating the zebras.

OP - the 180 degree shutter rule is the same as shooting 1/60th for 30p video, or 1/50 for 24p video. I'm really not familiar with shooting in any of the auto modes, but I would choose M on the mode dial so you can set your shutter to 1/60th and your F stop to where you want it. If you want less depth of field, you'd go to your lowest F stop. if you want more depth of field, you'd go higher, but try not to go past F/8 or F/11 so you can avoid diffraction. I would do these setting with a manual ISO setting so you know how much leeway you have with the ISO, keeping in mind, the higher your ISO goes, the more grain you'll get.

Once you have all your settings the way you want them, push the ISO button and select Auto ISO.

The problem with auto settings is that you can't control the camera, the camera controls you. White balance especially can look horrible when it changes during a shot. The colors change hues. It's not pretty.

Thanks uncle dunc for the useful info.

Brian

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OP Brisn5757 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,540
Re: Adusting the exposure when video recording on the Panasonic G7 camera

Good to know hindesite.

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