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50mm 1.2 EF to RF or wait something like 50 1.4/1.8 with IS?

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Yana2
Yana2 Forum Member • Posts: 85
50mm 1.2 EF to RF or wait something like 50 1.4/1.8 with IS?

Move to R from 6D about 2 months, one of the reasons was I wanted my old EF 50mm 1.2 to be reborn with EOS R. (70%+ soft image even stop down or have focus shift issues at 6D)

In EOS R focus shift gone, but the result is still not as good as other lenes, even compared with EF 40mm at f/2.8 or RF 35mm.

Personally want 50 with IS, like RF 35mm is fine, small size light weight good result, but I don't thing the dream lens will come true soon.

Now I have a deal to trade-in old EF 50 to RF at USD940. (gray market goods)

I planning trade it after CES 2020, hope Canon will announce something interesting.

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Go RF 50mm 1.2
62.2% 23  votes
Keep EF 50mm 1.2 and wait new RF.
29.7% 11  votes
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Patlezinc Regular Member • Posts: 452
Re: 50mm 1.2 EF to RF or wait something like 50 1.4/1.8 with IS?
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Or.. wait an IBIS body and pick the RF 1.2

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Franz Kerschbaum
Franz Kerschbaum Senior Member • Posts: 1,242
Re: 50mm 1.2 EF to RF or wait something like 50 1.4/1.8 with IS?

Great deal. Go for it!  Did something similar with my sigma art 50/1.4

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MAC Forum Pro • Posts: 18,487
Re: 50mm 1.2 EF to RF or wait something like 50 1.4/1.8 with IS?

Yana2 wrote:

Move to R from 6D about 2 months, one of the reasons was I wanted my old EF 50mm 1.2 to be reborn with EOS R. (70%+ soft image even stop down or have focus shift issues at 6D)

In EOS R focus shift gone, but the result is still not as good as other lenes, even compared with EF 40mm at f/2.8 or RF 35mm.

Personally want 50 with IS, like RF 35mm is fine, small size light weight good result, but I don't thing the dream lens will come true soon.

Now I have a deal to trade-in old EF 50 to RF at USD940. (gray market goods)

I planning trade it after CES 2020, hope Canon will announce something interesting.

go for it

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thunder storm Forum Pro • Posts: 10,139
Re: 50mm 1.2 EF to RF or wait something like 50 1.4/1.8 with IS?

Yana2 wrote:

Move to R from 6D about 2 months, one of the reasons was I wanted my old EF 50mm 1.2 to be reborn with EOS R. (70%+ soft image even stop down or have focus shift issues at 6D)

In EOS R focus shift gone, but the result is still not as good as other lenes, even compared with EF 40mm at f/2.8 or RF 35mm.

Personally want 50 with IS, like RF 35mm is fine, small size light weight good result, but I don't thing the dream lens will come true soon.

Now I have a deal to trade-in old EF 50 to RF at USD940. (gray market goods)

I planning trade it after CES 2020, hope Canon will announce something interesting.

Never wait for a non existent Canon 50mm lens.

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Re: 50mm 1.2 EF to RF or wait something like 50 1.4/1.8 with IS?

Yana2 wrote:

Move to R from 6D about 2 months, one of the reasons was I wanted my old EF 50mm 1.2 to be reborn with EOS R. (70%+ soft image even stop down or have focus shift issues at 6D)

In EOS R focus shift gone,

It is not.

but the result is still not as good as other lenes, even compared with EF 40mm at f/2.8 or RF 35mm.

Meaning what? The lens did not change, of course. Is the AF not satisfactory? In my experience, it is very good with the R.

Personally want 50 with IS, like RF 35mm is fine, small size light weight good result, but I don't thing the dream lens will come true soon.

Now I have a deal to trade-in old EF 50 to RF at USD940. (gray market goods)

I planning trade it after CES 2020, hope Canon will announce something interesting.

The RF 50 is great, take the deal.

Yana2
OP Yana2 Forum Member • Posts: 85
Re: 50mm 1.2 EF to RF or wait something like 50 1.4/1.8 with IS?

Patlezinc wrote:

Or.. wait an IBIS body and pick the RF 1.2

Everyone waiting and want IBIS.

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Great Bustard Forum Pro • Posts: 45,641
I'd take that deal in a heartbeat!
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Yana2 wrote:

Move to R from 6D about 2 months, one of the reasons was I wanted my old EF 50mm 1.2 to be reborn with EOS R. (70%+ soft image even stop down or have focus shift issues at 6D)

In EOS R focus shift gone, but the result is still not as good as other lenes, even compared with EF 40mm at f/2.8 or RF 35mm.

Personally want 50 with IS, like RF 35mm is fine, small size light weight good result, but I don't thing the dream lens will come true soon.

Now I have a deal to trade-in old EF 50 to RF at USD940. (gray market goods)

I planning trade it after CES 2020, hope Canon will announce something interesting.

Honestly, if you want a 50 / 1.2, then snatch that deal while you can!  Even if a 50 / 1.2 isn't that important, and a 50 / 1.4 or even 50 / 1.8 (possibly with IS) would do, and even do better, do the deal and sell the RF 50 / 1.2L when the lens you want does come out -- you'll most likely come out ahead.

JerryriggedTECH
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Yana2 wrote:

Move to R from 6D about 2 months, one of the reasons was I wanted my old EF 50mm 1.2 to be reborn with EOS R. (70%+ soft image even stop down or have focus shift issues at 6D)

In EOS R focus shift gone, but the result is still not as good as other lenes, even compared with EF 40mm at f/2.8 or RF 35mm.

Personally want 50 with IS, like RF 35mm is fine, small size light weight good result, but I don't thing the dream lens will come true soon.

Now I have a deal to trade-in old EF 50 to RF at USD940. (gray market goods)

I planning trade it after CES 2020, hope Canon will announce something interesting.

I have the RF and it is amazing! But I was never a hater on the EF 50 1.2. The EF was never the sharpest lens, but had awesome character. With the RF, you get biting sharpness combined with character! $940 cost to upgrade seems like a good deal!

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Steve W Veteran Member • Posts: 6,998
Re: 50mm 1.2 EF to RF or wait something like 50 1.4/1.8 with IS?

I had the EF 50/1.2L but finally let it go when I move to Sony. I am now also shooting an EOS R and would love a 50mm that is a little more reasonable in cost. I did get the F 35/1.8 IS but while it is fairly priced for what they offer I would really like to see the a 50mm that is of better quality and would be willing to pay more for it. The noise and behavior of the STM focus system I have seen on the RF 35 make me want a better quality implementation like I have seen in some of the Sony lenses. An example of that is a $1400 GM 24/1.4.  I've got to believe Canon could make a very good 50mm for less than that. Sure its would not be a f/1.2 but I don't need that but don't want to by a 50 built like the 35/1.8. Of course this just my opinion and only applies to me.

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Finally, I sold my 3 of my EF lenses: EF 50 1.2, 16-35 2.8 V1, 70-300 DO;

and got RF 50 (USD872) & 15-35 (USD1288) Impulsively get 15-35, only some research on YouTube has shown that works well.

RF 50 really crazy sharp!

Feeling really get what I paid.

Say goodbye to EF 50 1.2, color and the bokeh I love, but focus shift (@DSLR), soft, CA really bother me.

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shawnphoto Senior Member • Posts: 1,307
Re: 50mm 1.2 EF to RF or wait something like 50 1.4/1.8 with IS?

Yana2 wrote:

Finally, I sold my 3 of my EF lenses: EF 50 1.2, 16-35 2.8 V1, 70-300 DO;

and got RF 50 (USD872) & 15-35 (USD1288) Impulsively get 15-35, only some research on YouTube has shown that works well.

RF 50 really crazy sharp!

Feeling really get what I paid.

Say goodbye to EF 50 1.2, color and the bokeh I love, but focus shift (@DSLR), soft, CA really bother me.

Nice! I want to get this lens also. I’ve been loving the zoom lenses but the RF primes are tops for IQ.

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Re: 50mm 1.2 EF to RF or wait something like 50 1.4/1.8 with IS?

JerryriggedTECH wrote:

Yana2 wrote:

Move to R from 6D about 2 months, one of the reasons was I wanted my old EF 50mm 1.2 to be reborn with EOS R. (70%+ soft image even stop down or have focus shift issues at 6D)

In EOS R focus shift gone, but the result is still not as good as other lenes, even compared with EF 40mm at f/2.8 or RF 35mm.

Personally want 50 with IS, like RF 35mm is fine, small size light weight good result, but I don't thing the dream lens will come true soon.

Now I have a deal to trade-in old EF 50 to RF at USD940. (gray market goods)

I planning trade it after CES 2020, hope Canon will announce something interesting.

I have the RF and it is amazing! But I was never a hater on the EF 50 1.2. The EF was never the sharpest lens, but had awesome character. With the RF, you get biting sharpness combined with character! $940 cost to upgrade seems like a good deal!

I think I may a hater of EF 50 1.2, I got it At 2008 when shoot with 1DSII (didn't research because I trust Canon L), a no "AF Microadjustment" body, only 10% image usable, (Check focus? you can't did it at that tiny LCD) this is the first time a L Lens made me feel disappointed.

At 6D with AF Microadjustment, I tried fix the focus problem, but focus shift look like not same result at different focus distance.

Thank you EOS R, EF 50 1.2 focus very accurate, but when image result compare with the RF or Sigma ART, I should let it go.

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Steve W wrote:

I had the EF 50/1.2L but finally let it go when I move to Sony. I am now also shooting an EOS R and would love a 50mm that is a little more reasonable in cost. I did get the F 35/1.8 IS but while it is fairly priced for what they offer I would really like to see the a 50mm that is of better quality and would be willing to pay more for it. The noise and behavior of the STM focus system I have seen on the RF 35 make me want a better quality implementation like I have seen in some of the Sony lenses. An example of that is a $1400 GM 24/1.4. I've got to believe Canon could make a very good 50mm for less than that. Sure its would not be a f/1.2 but I don't need that but don't want to by a 50 built like the 35/1.8.

I want a 50 like RF35 with IS, light weight, small.

Of course this just my opinion and only applies to me.

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Re: I'd take that deal in a heartbeat!

Great Bustard wrote:

Honestly, if you want a 50 / 1.2, then snatch that deal while you can! Even if a 50 / 1.2 isn't that important, and a 50 / 1.4 or even 50 / 1.8 (possibly with IS) would do, and even do better, do the deal and sell the RF 50 / 1.2L when the lens you want does come out -- you'll most likely come out ahead.

Good idea, have it, use it, wait and see new RF!

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Steve W Veteran Member • Posts: 6,998
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Yana2 wrote:

Finally, I sold my 3 of my EF lenses: EF 50 1.2, 16-35 2.8 V1, 70-300 DO;

and got RF 50 (USD872) & 15-35 (USD1288) Impulsively get 15-35, only some research on YouTube has shown that works well.

RF 50 really crazy sharp!

Feeling really get what I paid.

Say goodbye to EF 50 1.2, color and the bokeh I love, but focus shift (@DSLR), soft, CA really bother me.

How were the prices so cheap for those lenses you bought?

Steve

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lawny13 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,132
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Steve W wrote:

Yana2 wrote:

Finally, I sold my 3 of my EF lenses: EF 50 1.2, 16-35 2.8 V1, 70-300 DO;

and got RF 50 (USD872) & 15-35 (USD1288) Impulsively get 15-35, only some research on YouTube has shown that works well.

RF 50 really crazy sharp!

Feeling really get what I paid.

Say goodbye to EF 50 1.2, color and the bokeh I love, but focus shift (@DSLR), soft, CA really bother me.

How were the prices so cheap for those lenses you bought?

Steve

Thought it was weird too. But perhaps he is listing the differences (what he spent minus what he made from selling), and he also mentioned grey market.

Steve W Veteran Member • Posts: 6,998
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Yana2 wrote:

Steve W wrote:

I had the EF 50/1.2L but finally let it go when I move to Sony. I am now also shooting an EOS R and would love a 50mm that is a little more reasonable in cost. I did get the F 35/1.8 IS but while it is fairly priced for what they offer I would really like to see the a 50mm that is of better quality and would be willing to pay more for it. The noise and behavior of the STM focus system I have seen on the RF 35 make me want a better quality implementation like I have seen in some of the Sony lenses. An example of that is a $1400 GM 24/1.4. I've got to believe Canon could make a very good 50mm for less than that. Sure its would not be a f/1.2 but I don't need that but don't want to by a 50 built like the 35/1.8.

I want a 50 like RF35 with IS, light weight, small.

Of course this just my opinion and only applies to me.

The size and weight of the RF 35 are nice, I agree, but willing to take on some added weight for improved build quality. That is always a trade-off.  The Sony 35/1.8 is 20 grams lighter but there is no IS.  The Fujifilm XF 23/1.4 is only 300 grams and is definitely built better but about twice as much. The Batis 40mm for FE mount is only 360 grams.

Cost for the RF 35 is great for what it is though.

Wonder if Canon will consider building a new RF f1.8 for 85mm?

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Steve W Veteran Member • Posts: 6,998
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lawny13 wrote:

Steve W wrote:

Yana2 wrote:

Finally, I sold my 3 of my EF lenses: EF 50 1.2, 16-35 2.8 V1, 70-300 DO;

and got RF 50 (USD872) & 15-35 (USD1288) Impulsively get 15-35, only some research on YouTube has shown that works well.

RF 50 really crazy sharp!

Feeling really get what I paid.

Say goodbye to EF 50 1.2, color and the bokeh I love, but focus shift (@DSLR), soft, CA really bother me.

How were the prices so cheap for those lenses you bought?

Steve

Thought it was weird too. But perhaps he is listing the differences (what he spent minus what he made from selling), and he also mentioned grey market.

I thought it might be a price difference as well. Missed the grey market comment I guess. Thanks

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lawny13 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,132
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Steve W wrote:

Yana2 wrote:

Steve W wrote:

I had the EF 50/1.2L but finally let it go when I move to Sony. I am now also shooting an EOS R and would love a 50mm that is a little more reasonable in cost. I did get the F 35/1.8 IS but while it is fairly priced for what they offer I would really like to see the a 50mm that is of better quality and would be willing to pay more for it. The noise and behavior of the STM focus system I have seen on the RF 35 make me want a better quality implementation like I have seen in some of the Sony lenses. An example of that is a $1400 GM 24/1.4. I've got to believe Canon could make a very good 50mm for less than that. Sure its would not be a f/1.2 but I don't need that but don't want to by a 50 built like the 35/1.8.

I want a 50 like RF35 with IS, light weight, small.

Of course this just my opinion and only applies to me.

The size and weight of the RF 35 are nice, I agree, but willing to take on some added weight for improved build quality. That is always a trade-off. The Sony 35/1.8 is 20 grams lighter but there is no IS. The Fujifilm XF 23/1.4 is only 300 grams and is definitely built better but about twice as much. The Batis 40mm for FE mount is only 360 grams.

Cost for the RF 35 is great for what it is though.

Wonder if Canon will consider building a new RF f1.8 for 85mm?

Well... I would like canon to do one step up above the 35. Internally focusing, weather sealed 50 mm f1.8 or f1.4, with less focus shift. So basically a FE55ZA without the CA issues, and with IS. I would pay 600-800 for that thing easy. 
The 35 is good for what it is, but it some of us are willing to pay a bit more for better build. I really really hope canon doesn't only produce 3k top of the line lenses and cheap $100-$400 lenses. Something in between would be nice. 
For example, I live in the Netherlands. Rain is a fact of life here. So some form of weather sealing would be nice for a prime that I would use often as a walk around prime.

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