The real price for the 85mm?

One for $550 here and two for the same at ebay. What people WANT. But the REAL price?

eilivk wrote:

One for $550 here and two for the same at ebay. What people WANT. But the REAL price?

I'm unsure of the conversion, but there have only been 2 of those lenses sold recently on eBay and they went for around £340.

eilivk wrote:

One for $550 here and two for the same at ebay. What people WANT. But the REAL price?

There is no real price. For those with NX cameras, 85mm could be worth a lot, but I wouldn't pay more than 350USD. The thing is, for portaits, it is ideal to have a wireless (radio) external lighting system for optimum results. Since Samsung has no such option, the whole system is best for landscape, macro, videos, etc., but not for portraits. At least, that is how I've used my Samsung NX system. Another reason is the poor out-of-camera (OOC) jpeg skin tones in Samsung NX system--Sony has the same issue (I much prefer Pentax for OOC skin tones, though I've heard good things about Fujifilm also)

Personally, I'm no longer interested in NX 85mm because I already have the following lenses-- for NX or for other systems (all with autofocus):

• Samsung 60mm f/2.8
• Tamron 90mm f/2.8
• Pentax 100mm f/2.8
• Minolta AF 135mm f/2.8

markyboy81 wrote:

eilivk wrote:

One for $550 here and two for the same at ebay. What people WANT. But the REAL price?

I'm unsure of the conversion, but there have only been 2 of those lenses sold recently on eBay and they went for around £340.

I will offer a bit less than that and then maybe go up 10%. The last was for $250 - and went for that price! Anyway got the 45mm...

eilivk wrote:

markyboy81 wrote:

eilivk wrote:

One for $550 here and two for the same at ebay. What people WANT. But the REAL price?

I'm unsure of the conversion, but there have only been 2 of those lenses sold recently on eBay and they went for around £340.

I will offer a bit less than that and then maybe go up 10%. The last was for $250 - and went for that price! Anyway got the 45mm...

The 85mm is fantastic but I just never seem to get chance to use it very much! It's not the most versatile lens, autofocus is a bit slow and there's no stabilisation. But the output? Wowwwwwwwwww!

Massao wrote:

eilivk wrote:

One for $550 here and two for the same at ebay. What people WANT. But the REAL price?

There is no real price. For those with NX cameras, 85mm could be worth a lot, but I wouldn't pay more than 350USD. The thing is, for portaits, it is ideal to have a wireless (radio) external lighting system for optimum results. Since Samsung has no such option, the whole system is best for landscape, macro, videos, etc., but not for portraits. At least, that is how I've used my Samsung NX system. Another reason is the poor out-of-camera (OOC) jpeg skin tones in Samsung NX system--Sony has the same issue (I much prefer Pentax for OOC skin tones, though I've heard good things about Fujifilm also)

Personally, I'm no longer interested in NX 85mm because I already have the following lenses-- for NX or for other systems (all with autofocus):

• Samsung 60mm f/2.8
• Tamron 90mm f/2.8
• Pentax 100mm f/2.8
• Minolta AF 135mm f/2.8

Not into portraits, more about night photos and animals, ok distance from my windows. And how is it for video? Got the 45 which is more useful when it's dark. Will try more videos.

The Minola 135, how do you get autofocus? High price for the adapter? A lot of Minolta lenses among friends.

markyboy81 wrote:

eilivk wrote:

markyboy81 wrote:

eilivk wrote:

One for $550 here and two for the same at ebay. What people WANT. But the REAL price?

I'm unsure of the conversion, but there have only been 2 of those lenses sold recently on eBay and they went for around £340.

I will offer a bit less than that and then maybe go up 10%. The last was for $250 - and went for that price! Anyway got the 45mm...

The 85mm is fantastic but I just never seem to get chance to use it very much! It's not the most versatile lens, autofocus is a bit slow and there's no stabilisation. But the output? Wowwwwwwwwww!

Wonder how much it would be used, but will go for more NX lenses (and cameras). Never been in doubt about the output. - Never thought much about it, but how long do lenses last? Quality lenses...

eilivk wrote:

Massao wrote:

eilivk wrote:

One for $550 here and two for the same at ebay. What people WANT. But the REAL price?

There is no real price. For those with NX cameras, 85mm could be worth a lot, but I wouldn't pay more than 350USD. The thing is, for portaits, it is ideal to have a wireless (radio) external lighting system for optimum results. Since Samsung has no such option, the whole system is best for landscape, macro, videos, etc., but not for portraits. At least, that is how I've used my Samsung NX system. Another reason is the poor out-of-camera (OOC) jpeg skin tones in Samsung NX system--Sony has the same issue (I much prefer Pentax for OOC skin tones, though I've heard good things about Fujifilm also)

Personally, I'm no longer interested in NX 85mm because I already have the following lenses-- for NX or for other systems (all with autofocus):

• Samsung 60mm f/2.8
• Tamron 90mm f/2.8
• Pentax 100mm f/2.8
• Minolta AF 135mm f/2.8

Not into portraits, more about night photos and animals, ok distance from my windows.

Hmm ok.

And how is it for video?

It should be good for videos since it has the SSA focusing system.

The Minola 135, how do you get autofocus?High price for the adapter?

It is an autofocus lens. Works on my Sony a68 without any adapters. It also works fine with autofocus on my a3000 with LA-EA2 adapter. Yes, the adapter is a bit expensive.

eilivk wrote:

markyboy81 wrote:

eilivk wrote:

markyboy81 wrote:

eilivk wrote:

One for $550 here and two for the same at ebay. What people WANT. But the REAL price?

I'm unsure of the conversion, but there have only been 2 of those lenses sold recently on eBay and they went for around £340.

I will offer a bit less than that and then maybe go up 10%. The last was for $250 - and went for that price! Anyway got the 45mm...

The 85mm is fantastic but I just never seem to get chance to use it very much! It's not the most versatile lens, autofocus is a bit slow and there's no stabilisation. But the output? Wowwwwwwwwww!

Wonder how much it would be used, but will go for more NX lenses (and cameras). Never been in doubt about the output. - Never thought much about it, but how long do lenses last? Quality lenses...

I think they are generally good quality. The only lenses I've had trouble with are the 60mm and the 85mm. Both of those lenses have caused my camera to crash on occasion. Also, the 85mm does seem to have a squeaky autofocus, although this doesn't seem to cause any issues.

Reportedly the 12-24mm had build quality issues but I think this was rectified with newer versions.

In Canada, so do the conversion, one in good condition would go for $459-550 CDN. Generally the people that sell them know there are not many for sale so they can wait until someone wants one.              I think I was able to negotiate all of $25 off the price when purchased this year.

eilivk wrote:

... but how long do lenses last?

I wouldn't worry about this. Some of my NX lenses must have taken over 10,000 pics. The NX 18-200mm must had recorded hundreds of hours of video. Never had any NX lens fail

Massao wrote:

eilivk wrote:

... but how long do lenses last?

I wouldn't worry about this. Some of my NX lenses must have taken over 10,000 pics. The NX 18-200mm must had recorded hundreds of hours of video. Never had any NX lens fail

Thanks, I did not worry, just came to think of it. Depends on use of course. Not taking mine into war, mountain climbing and such... The problem is with older lenses, secondhand.

eilivk wrote:

Massao wrote:

eilivk wrote:

One for $550 here and two for the same at ebay. What people WANT. But the REAL price?

There is no real price. For those with NX cameras, 85mm could be worth a lot, but I wouldn't pay more than 350USD. The thing is, for portaits, it is ideal to have a wireless (radio) external lighting system for optimum results. Since Samsung has no such option, the whole system is best for landscape, macro, videos, etc., but not for portraits. At least, that is how I've used my Samsung NX system. Another reason is the poor out-of-camera (OOC) jpeg skin tones in Samsung NX system--Sony has the same issue (I much prefer Pentax for OOC skin tones, though I've heard good things about Fujifilm also)

Personally, I'm no longer interested in NX 85mm because I already have the following lenses-- for NX or for other systems (all with autofocus):

• Samsung 60mm f/2.8
• Tamron 90mm f/2.8
• Pentax 100mm f/2.8
• Minolta AF 135mm f/2.8

Not into portraits, more about night photos and animals, ok distance from my windows.

Open the windows if you can, screens, dirty window glass, and even distortion from regular clean windows ruins fine detail.  The 50-150 gives way better reach and flexibility for that than the 85, but would run you quite a lot more.  The 85 is pretty good though as long as they are close enough.  Please don't clean the windows too much, tons of birds die every year flying into sparkling clean windows.

And how is it for video? Got the 45 which is more useful when it's dark. Will try more videos.

The Minola 135, how do you get autofocus? High price for the adapter? A lot of Minolta lenses among friends.

ttbek wrote:

eilivk wrote:

Massao wrote:

eilivk wrote:

One for $550 here and two for the same at ebay. What people WANT. But the REAL price?

There is no real price. For those with NX cameras, 85mm could be worth a lot, but I wouldn't pay more than 350USD. The thing is, for portaits, it is ideal to have a wireless (radio) external lighting system for optimum results. Since Samsung has no such option, the whole system is best for landscape, macro, videos, etc., but not for portraits. At least, that is how I've used my Samsung NX system. Another reason is the poor out-of-camera (OOC) jpeg skin tones in Samsung NX system--Sony has the same issue (I much prefer Pentax for OOC skin tones, though I've heard good things about Fujifilm also)

Personally, I'm no longer interested in NX 85mm because I already have the following lenses-- for NX or for other systems (all with autofocus):

• Samsung 60mm f/2.8
• Tamron 90mm f/2.8
• Pentax 100mm f/2.8
• Minolta AF 135mm f/2.8

Not into portraits, more about night photos and animals, ok distance from my windows.

Open the windows if you can, screens, dirty window glass, and even distortion from regular clean windows ruins fine detail. The 50-150 gives way better reach and flexibility for that than the 85, but would run you quite a lot more. The 85 is pretty good though as long as they are close enough. Please don't clean the windows too much, tons of birds die every year flying into sparkling clean windows.

And how is it for video? Got the 45 which is more useful when it's dark. Will try more videos.

The Minola 135, how do you get autofocus? High price for the adapter? A lot of Minolta lenses among friends.

Thanks for the advice! Rather dirty windows now, NX 45 mm still doing ok. While the Sigma 60 mm (Panasonic) gave up along time ago. Did not check the details... No dead birds here.

Massao wrote:

eilivk wrote:

One for $550 here and two for the same at ebay. What people WANT. But the REAL price?

There is no real price. For those with NX cameras, 85mm could be worth a lot, but I wouldn't pay more than 350USD. The thing is, for portaits, it is ideal to have a wireless (radio) external lighting system for optimum results. Since Samsung has no such option, the whole system is best for landscape, macro, videos, etc., but not for portraits. At least, that is how I've used my Samsung NX system. Another reason is the poor out-of-camera (OOC) jpeg skin tones in Samsung NX system--Sony has the same issue (I much prefer Pentax for OOC skin tones, though I've heard good things about Fujifilm also)

Personally, I'm no longer interested in NX 85mm because I already have the following lenses-- for NX or for other systems (all with autofocus):

• Samsung 60mm f/2.8
• Tamron 90mm f/2.8
• Pentax 100mm f/2.8
• Minolta AF 135mm f/2.8

My off camera strobes have a wireless trigger which I can use to adjust the output, modeling lamp etc. that just sits in the hotshoe and fires off everything. I then use the Sammy camera manager to trigger the camera and get great results.

CraigVMN wrote:

Massao wrote:

eilivk wrote:

One for $550 here and two for the same at ebay. What people WANT. But the REAL price?

There is no real price. For those with NX cameras, 85mm could be worth a lot, but I wouldn't pay more than 350USD. The thing is, for portaits, it is ideal to have a wireless (radio) external lighting system for optimum results. Since Samsung has no such option, the whole system is best for landscape, macro, videos, etc., but not for portraits. At least, that is how I've used my Samsung NX system. Another reason is the poor out-of-camera (OOC) jpeg skin tones in Samsung NX system--Sony has the same issue (I much prefer Pentax for OOC skin tones, though I've heard good things about Fujifilm also)

Personally, I'm no longer interested in NX 85mm because I already have the following lenses-- for NX or for other systems (all with autofocus):

• Samsung 60mm f/2.8
• Tamron 90mm f/2.8
• Pentax 100mm f/2.8
• Minolta AF 135mm f/2.8

My off camera strobes have a wireless trigger which I can use to adjust the output, modeling lamp etc. that just sits in the hotshoe and fires off everything. I then use the Sammy camera manager to trigger the camera and get great results.

With off-camera flashes with manual exposure--that's all well. What we don't have in NX world is an off-camera radio controlled TTL set-up

Massao wrote:

With off-camera flashes with manual exposure--that's all well. What we don't have in NX world is an off-camera radio controlled TTL set-up

Even if we did, I wouldn't use it. With a multi-light setup, their's much more control measuring & setting each light individually and setting the camera to manual.

CraigVMN wrote:

Massao wrote:

With off-camera flashes with manual exposure--that's all well. What we don't have in NX world is an off-camera radio controlled TTL set-up

Even if we did, I wouldn't use it. With a multi-light setup, their's much more control measuring & setting each light individually and setting the camera to manual.

That’s understandable. In controlled environment, manual exposure with multiple light sources is best. However, for my needs (candid pictures of child) wireless TTL exposure is most convenient.

Now the 85 is on the way for $300. Originally in package for 500... but got enough NX. Gave up NX1 and the long 2.8. 85 should be nice on NX500, and maybe get an extra of that, black?

Really a solid and serious lens! So now I need NX1 too? Slow focusing yes. At one often used distance you know, faster if you "prefocus"? Or is that bad for the motor? - Interesting to see focusing in the dark.