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E-M5III SCP on rear screen

Started Dec 13, 2019 | Discussions
Henry Richardson Forum Pro • Posts: 21,959
E-M5III SCP on rear screen

Today I was at a denkiyasan (electric store) and so I stopped by their camera section. Although the camera sections of these types of stores are not as extensive as at places such as Yodobashi and Bic Camera they are more extensive than most camera stores I have seen in the U.S. and Canada. Many cameras and lenses sitting out where anyone can play with them and no one to bother you.

Anyway, they had the E-M5III out with the 14-150mm II on it. I looked at the camera a few weeks ago at the Olympus Plaza in Tokyo, but I haven't made any effort to see it again. I played around with it a bit today, but one thing had me confused and after 30 minutes of handling it I walked out still confused. By the way, the E-M5II, E-M10III, and E-PL9 were sitting right next to it along with 10 or so lenses.

The E-M5III was set for LV on the back screen, but with the eye sensor turned on so that when looking through the EVF it would switch. I wanted to turn off LV on the back and just display the SCP the way I do for my PEN-F, E-M10II, E-M10, and E-M5. For the life of me I couldn't figure out how to do it. There is a button on the top, left "knob" with the monitor icon on it, but pressing it didn't turn off the LV from the rear screen like I expected. I could get the SCP to appear by pressing the OK button, but the SCP was superimposed over the LV image. The E-M5II and E-M10III both did as I expected by pressing their buttons with the monitor icon. I then went into the E-M5III menu, switched it to English, and started searching for some setting that needed to be changed. I went through every single item in the extensive menu a total of 3 times, even going down deep into submenus looking for something. I couldn't find anything. I finally gave up. Oh, I did, as always, switch the menu back to Japanese before walking away.

Of course, I know I overlooked something, but I would like to know how to get this set up. I wanted to check the wakeup time from sleep mode so I set quick sleep, but that function only works when LV is not on the rear screen.

Any ideas on what needs to be changed on the E-M5III? If I find out then later I may stop by again to check the wakeup speed. Thanks.

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Re: E-M5III SCP on rear screen

Henry Richardson wrote:

Today I was at a denkiyasan (electric store) and so I stopped by their camera section. Although the camera sections of these types of stores are not as extensive as at places such as Yodobashi and Bic Camera they are more extensive than most camera stores I have seen in the U.S. and Canada. Many cameras and lenses sitting out where anyone can play with them and no one to bother you.

Anyway, they had the E-M5III out with the 14-150mm II on it. I looked at the camera a few weeks ago at the Olympus Plaza in Tokyo, but I haven't made any effort to see it again. I played around with it a bit today, but one thing had me confused and after 30 minutes of handling it I walked out still confused. By the way, the E-M5II, E-M10III, and E-PL9 were sitting right next to it along with 10 or so lenses.

The E-M5III was set for LV on the back screen, but with the eye sensor turned on so that when looking through the EVF it would switch. I wanted to turn off LV on the back and just display the SCP the way I do for my PEN-F, E-M10II, E-M10, and E-M5. For the life of me I couldn't figure out how to do it. There is a button on the top, left "knob" with the monitor icon on it, but pressing it didn't turn off the LV from the rear screen like I expected.

The way it's configured by default, one tap brings the SCP with no live view.

I could get the SCP to appear by pressing the OK button, but the SCP was superimposed over the LV image. The E-M5II and E-M10III both did as I expected by pressing their buttons with the monitor icon. I then went into the E-M5III menu, switched it to English, and started searching for some setting that needed to be changed. I went through every single item in the extensive menu a total of 3 times, even going down deep into submenus looking for something. I couldn't find anything. I finally gave up. Oh, I did, as always, switch the menu back to Japanese before walking away.

Either Japan has a different settings/default somewhere, or the Camera was already configured to do something else. By default the behavior you expected is what I am seeing (just tried it right now).

Of course, I know I overlooked something, but I would like to know how to get this set up. I wanted to check the wakeup time from sleep mode so I set quick sleep, but that function only works when LV is not on the rear screen.

Hmm haven't tried quick sleep but my experience in general is that waking up from "quick sleep' is never as quick as I want

Any ideas on what needs to be changed on the E-M5III? If I find out then later I may stop by again to check the wakeup speed. Thanks.

If you are trying a model from the street and they don't care on settings, I would just reset the camera - full reset- to defaults.  This is another issue of Olympus menu/options complexity- when there's *this one setting* that makes the Camera behave differently but you can't find it.  Been there.

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On quick sleep...

you can set the LCD to turn off in X seconds, you can set the Camera to go to quick sleep in seconds, to 1 minute.

When waking up from LCD shutdown only seems to be in about < 0.5 seconds. When it's waking up from quick sleep seems to be ready in about 1.0-1.5 seconds.

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Re: On quick sleep...

Raist3d wrote:

you can set the LCD to turn off in X seconds, you can set the Camera to go to quick sleep in seconds, to 1 minute.

When waking up from LCD shutdown only seems to be in about < 0.5 seconds. When it's waking up from quick sleep seems to be ready in about 1.0-1.5 seconds.

On my PEN-F I have these settings in the menu:

  • D -> Sleep -> 1min
  • K -> Quick Sleep Mode -> On -> Sleep -> 10sec
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Re: E-M5III SCP on rear screen

Raist3d wrote:

Henry Richardson wrote:

Today I was at a denkiyasan (electric store) and so I stopped by their camera section. Although the camera sections of these types of stores are not as extensive as at places such as Yodobashi and Bic Camera they are more extensive than most camera stores I have seen in the U.S. and Canada. Many cameras and lenses sitting out where anyone can play with them and no one to bother you.

Anyway, they had the E-M5III out with the 14-150mm II on it. I looked at the camera a few weeks ago at the Olympus Plaza in Tokyo, but I haven't made any effort to see it again. I played around with it a bit today, but one thing had me confused and after 30 minutes of handling it I walked out still confused. By the way, the E-M5II, E-M10III, and E-PL9 were sitting right next to it along with 10 or so lenses.

The E-M5III was set for LV on the back screen, but with the eye sensor turned on so that when looking through the EVF it would switch. I wanted to turn off LV on the back and just display the SCP the way I do for my PEN-F, E-M10II, E-M10, and E-M5. For the life of me I couldn't figure out how to do it. There is a button on the top, left "knob" with the monitor icon on it, but pressing it didn't turn off the LV from the rear screen like I expected.

The way it's configured by default, one tap brings the SCP with no live view.

Something strange because pressing that monitor button did not bring up the SCP and turn off LV.

I could get the SCP to appear by pressing the OK button, but the SCP was superimposed over the LV image. The E-M5II and E-M10III both did as I expected by pressing their buttons with the monitor icon. I then went into the E-M5III menu, switched it to English, and started searching for some setting that needed to be changed. I went through every single item in the extensive menu a total of 3 times, even going down deep into submenus looking for something. I couldn't find anything. I finally gave up. Oh, I did, as always, switch the menu back to Japanese before walking away.

Either Japan has a different settings/default somewhere, or the Camera was already configured to do something else. By default the behavior you expected is what I am seeing (just tried it right now).

Of course, I know I overlooked something, but I would like to know how to get this set up. I wanted to check the wakeup time from sleep mode so I set quick sleep, but that function only works when LV is not on the rear screen.

Hmm haven't tried quick sleep but my experience in general is that waking up from "quick sleep' is never as quick as I want

Any ideas on what needs to be changed on the E-M5III? If I find out then later I may stop by again to check the wakeup speed. Thanks.

If you are trying a model from the street and they don't care on settings, I would just reset the camera - full reset- to defaults. This is another issue of Olympus menu/options complexity- when there's *this one setting* that makes the Camera behave differently but you can't find it. Been there.

I think that is the best idea.  The next time I will do a reset.  Maybe someone had configured something and then walked away.  I am always careful to return the settings to the way I found it, but some people do not.

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Re: E-M5III SCP on rear screen

Henry Richardson wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Henry Richardson wrote:

Today I was at a denkiyasan (electric store) and so I stopped by their camera section. Although the camera sections of these types of stores are not as extensive as at places such as Yodobashi and Bic Camera they are more extensive than most camera stores I have seen in the U.S. and Canada. Many cameras and lenses sitting out where anyone can play with them and no one to bother you.

Anyway, they had the E-M5III out with the 14-150mm II on it. I looked at the camera a few weeks ago at the Olympus Plaza in Tokyo, but I haven't made any effort to see it again. I played around with it a bit today, but one thing had me confused and after 30 minutes of handling it I walked out still confused. By the way, the E-M5II, E-M10III, and E-PL9 were sitting right next to it along with 10 or so lenses.

The E-M5III was set for LV on the back screen, but with the eye sensor turned on so that when looking through the EVF it would switch. I wanted to turn off LV on the back and just display the SCP the way I do for my PEN-F, E-M10II, E-M10, and E-M5. For the life of me I couldn't figure out how to do it. There is a button on the top, left "knob" with the monitor icon on it, but pressing it didn't turn off the LV from the rear screen like I expected.

The way it's configured by default, one tap brings the SCP with no live view.

Something strange because pressing that monitor button did not bring up the SCP and turn off LV.

As raist3D suggested, somebody must have already repurposed the display button on the power switch hub for a different function.  The E-M5 III operates just the same way as its predecessors out of the box (except that, from its predecessor the E-M5 II onwards, out of the box they have the Live SCP enabled - the superimposed on live view version - rather than the SCP on a blank dark grey screen as on previous models.  The latter tended to be a shock to the system to new OM-D owners moving from the Pen line for the first time!).  As before, with the EVF eye sensor on Auto, all it needs is a quick tap to switch between the two modes, or a long press to shortcut straight into the On/Off setting for the EVF eye sensor.

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