27mm F2.8 opinions?

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Buttons252
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27mm F2.8 opinions?

I just got an X-H1 + 90mm Bundle. I also have an X-E1 + 18-55mm F2.8-4. Honestly, the 18-55mm is not impressing me so far. Its not a big lens, but it still prevents the X-E1 from fitting in my pocket. Considering selling it and getting the 27mm F2.8 prime. I would be a lot more likely to bring the camera with me to places. Without OIS i would probably be shooting the 27mm wide open a lot. How is the edge to edge sharpness ? Should I just stick with the 18-55?

I think the 18-55mm wide open at 27mm is F3.6 at least thats what ive been getting.

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ragbasti Regular Member • Posts: 196
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Buttons252 wrote:

I just got an X-H1 + 90mm Bundle. I also have an X-E1 + 18-55mm F2.8-4. Honestly, the 18-55mm is not impressing me so far. Its not a big lens, but it still prevents the X-E1 from fitting in my pocket. Considering selling it and getting the 27mm F2.8 prime. I would be a lot more likely to bring the camera with me to places. Without OIS i would probably be shooting the 27mm wide open a lot. How is the edge to edge sharpness ? Should I just stick with the 18-55?

I think the 18-55mm wide open at 27mm is F3.6 at least thats what ive been getting.

The 27/2.8 is a great little lens. It really makes any Fuji Camera pocketable, aside from maybe the X-H1

It's super sharp in the center but takes some stopping down to get great corners, I usually shoot it at f4-5.6 when I ahve lots of light available.
With how small a package it is, you just have to weigh your own expectations vs the reality of what can be achieved.

Unfortunately, the lens doesn't have a aperture ring but aside from that it's a joy to use and a really nice all-purpose focal length.
Low light with the lens is not recommended, it tends to hunt quite a bit on my X-T2.
If I had to sell all lenses but one, the 27mm would probably last I'd sell before keeping my Mitakon

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a_c_skinner Veteran Member • Posts: 8,818
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It is a really good little lens.  Don't sell the 18-55, look for a used 27mm, which can be very cheap.

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JNR
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As already mentioned elsewhere, the 27mm is sharp in the center wide open, but has issues toward the edges. The likely culprit appears to be field curvature - the penalty for making the lens so small. The field curvature is far less apparent than what you see from the 18-55 on the wider end - up to about 23mm. These problems are relevant for architecture and some landscape shots, but otherwise not hugely evident. It is also true that the lens struggles in very low light (on my X-T2/20), and that would be especially apparent on that old X-E1 body which is limited in AF abilities in low light.

That said, I highly value the lens' utility and accept its limitations. It certainly outperforms the 18-55 at 27mm, is fun to take along in cargo pants pockets with the X-T20, and qualifies as the only truly "normal" perspective prime lens in the Fuji line-up (35mm on APSc is a bit narrower than the accepted range of normal - which is around 27-31mm).

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lk2 New Member • Posts: 22
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I use a 27mm + X-E1, but mostly stopped down to F/5.6 or more, where I find it extremely sharp edge-to-edge.  When I use it at F/2.8, it's usually at close range and it's hard to judge edge-to-edge sharpness in real world scenarios due to bokeh (but center sharpness is definitely there).  I've been very happy with this lens, partly because of its sharpness.  Great for black-and-white with high micro-contrast.

I also have the 14mm, considered to be quite sharp, and never find myself shooting with the 27mm and thinking that it lacks the 14mm's sharpness.

Used prices for the 27mm seem to me to be a bargain and I'd highly recommend anyone who doesn't have this lens to try it.  If you don't like it, sell it and you won't lose much.

The most common complaint I see about the 27mm is the lack of an aperture dial.  That's been a complete non-issue for me, I just use the wheel on the back of the X-E1 and check the aperture in the EVF.  I love the handling of the 14mm, but I value the small size of the 27mm and the combined 27mm + X-E1 package and wouldn't want its size increased for that.

If the 27mm were F/2 at about the same size, I would probably not consider any of Fuji's F/1.4 offerings, but I am now looking at them for better low-light performance.  Why not the 18mm F/2?  It seems there would be a noticeable decrease in sharpness from the 27mm.

Hope that helps.

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Great lens on my X-T20 would really suit your X-E1.

Can be bought new very cheaply.

Would highly recommend.

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The 27 is a great street lens. Keep your 18-55 and buy a used 27, you won’t regret it. On my X-T2 and X-E3 the lens focuses fast even in lowlight.

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Ebay has them new for $156

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My most used Fuji lens with 16/1.4. Small, sharp and light. Match made in heaven with smaller bodies like XT30 or XE3.

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rube39 Veteran Member • Posts: 8,337
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Got mine in a two lens kit with the M-1. The combination is small and pocketable, so the 27 stays glued to my M-1. The much larger zoom gathers dust. . .

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JNR wrote:

That said, I highly value the lens' utility and accept its limitations. It certainly outperforms the 18-55 at 27mm, is fun to take along in cargo pants pockets with the X-T20, and qualifies as the only truly "normal" perspective prime lens in the Fuji line-up (35mm on APSc is a bit narrower than the accepted range of normal - which is around 27-31mm).

Would you happen to know how it fairs vs Pentax A28 f/2.8? Obviously it wouldn't be as svelte with the adapter. Just curious performance wise.

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GossCTP wrote:

JNR wrote:

That said, I highly value the lens' utility and accept its limitations. It certainly outperforms the 18-55 at 27mm, is fun to take along in cargo pants pockets with the X-T20, and qualifies as the only truly "normal" perspective prime lens in the Fuji line-up (35mm on APSc is a bit narrower than the accepted range of normal - which is around 27-31mm).

Would you happen to know how it fairs vs Pentax A28 f/2.8? Obviously it wouldn't be as svelte with the adapter. Just curious performance wise.

Long ago I used to sell the a28 f/2.8 fairly often... so I had a good general idea about that lens, though I never owned one - and certainly would not have experience with it in the digital realm. My recollections square with what others have generally observed... great SMC coatings for the era, but pretty much middling sharpness.

For the most part, strides in lens design over the past four decades are very apparent in zooms and wide angle lenses (FF 28mm and wider - assisted by ED, LD, aspheric, etc. elements). Longer primes haven't really progressed much. The Fuji 27mm lens has two other key advantages - it is a normal perspective focal length designed for the 16x24mm image circle rather than a FF wide angle, and as a mirrorless lens it does not require the complexity of extra flange distance (retrofocus design).

So, that is a long answer - safe to say that the 27mm is markedly better, especially regarding sharpness. That's coming from someone who values character over sharpness, and still gets plenty of fine shots from optics that were produced more than four decades ago.

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While using your 18-55 what are the focal distances more used by you?

If you keep it around the 27mm, then the 27mm would be a great pocketable lens, but will not be sharpen in the corners at f/2.8.

However if you keep shooting around the wide side of your lens the 18mm f2 may be a better compact lens, but keep in mind that both of them have an AF much slower than your 90mm.

In the first case, consider buying an used 27mm to when you feel the need to keep it pocketable, and in the second case I think you'll be happy selling your 18-55 and buying the 18mm.

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I got an X-E1 a few years ago, and the 27mm f2.8 was the first Fuji lens I got for it.  I also recently got an X-H1, so we appear to have similar taste in camera bodies.

On the X-E1, with latest firmware, the lens is slow to focus and can have trouble locking on in very dark conditions.  The size of this combo really does encourage you to carry the camera all the time.  I recently went to Disney for a few days, and carried the combo on a wrist strap, with no camera bag.  Very handy.

On the X-H1, the lens is so quick to focus that sometimes I have to check that it is even working.  Zap:  focus.  Right now.  On the down side, the camera body is so big, I haven't really gotten comfortable taking it everywhere with me yet.  Doesn't really seem like a wrist strap kind of camera but luckily the neck strap supplied with the camera is really nice.  The 27mm f2.8 doesn't even extend past the camera's grip.

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It’s sharp and produces good photos but I hate that it has no aperture ring.

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The 27mm makes my X-T2 pocketable (jacked pocket), and therefore I take my camera with me more often. It has good sharpness and I think the wide open sharpness is very usable.

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Rod McD Veteran Member • Posts: 6,792
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Hi,

The 27mm is a great little lens - usable WO but better - very sharp -  once stopped down a tad.  I find the lack of an AR somewhat annoying because for me, the MO is different from all my other Fuji lenses except the 50-230.  If Fuji ever release a MkII with an AR, I'd trade up......

I think whether you can get an XE +27mm into a pocket rather depends on your definition of "pocket'.  Jacket pocket - certainly.  Is it a good idea to put a piece of precision optical gear into a pocket is another question.  Maybe it says something about me or my laundry, but in my experience pockets tend to get full of dust, lint, glider clips, keys, bits of sandy shells the kids picked up and asked me to carry, etc, etc, etc, you get the idea - all inimical to optical gear.....  How about a dedicated belt pouch?

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DarnGoodPhotos Veteran Member • Posts: 9,175
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Buttons252 wrote:

...Without OIS i would probably be shooting the 27mm wide open a lot. How is the edge to edge sharpness ?

The 27 is an f2.8 pancake lens which you can usually find for under $200; probably silly to hold it up to the same edge sharpness criteria you do more expensive, higher-end lenses. I mean, unless you are shooting flat walls or place your subject right at the edge of the frame, does it really matter if the edge isn't as sharp as the center. If your subject is going to be at the edge of the frame, just shoot wider and crop.

Should I just stick with the 18-55?

The 18-55 is a zoom and the 27 isn't... each has its own benefits.

Get the 27 and then sell the 18-55 if you don't find yourself using it.

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I really like the 42mm equiv focal length.  a 50mm handles 90% of my photography generally speaking.  Having just switched back to Fuji from Sony... I have the 90mm F2 for portraits, and thought the 27mm would be a great walk around bring the camera everywhere with me.  However, X-H1 is a lot bigger then i thought and i dont think a pancake lens is so appealing now.  Maybe a 35mm F1.4 would hit the spot.

For now, i am going to use the 18-55mm some more in better light and see what i want to do.

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