Which camera is your main camera?

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Erik Kaffehr
Erik Kaffehr Veteran Member • Posts: 4,096
Which camera is your main camera?

Hi,

Would be interesting to see which systems readers have.
Please indicate the system that you are most likely to use for important work.

Best regards

Erik Kaffehr

POLL
Canon APS-C
7.6% 6  votes
Canon full frame
7.6% 6  votes
Fujifilm APS-C
13.9% 11  votes
Fujifilm 645
0.0% 0  votes
Hasselblad Digital
1.3% 1  vote
Leica APS-C
0.0% 0  votes
Leica full frame
3.8% 3  votes
Leica MFD
0.0% 0  votes
Nikon APS-C
5.1% 4  votes
Nikon full Frame
11.4% 9  votes
Olympus 4/3
13.9% 11  votes
Panasonic 4/3
10.1% 8  votes
Panasonic full frame
0.0% 0  votes
Pentax APS-C
3.8% 3  votes
Pentax full frame
1.3% 1  vote
Pentax 645
1.3% 1  vote
Sony APS-C
2.5% 2  votes
Sony full frame
11.4% 9  votes
Analogue MF
0.0% 0  votes
Analogue 24x36 mm
0.0% 0  votes
Analogue 120
0.0% 0  votes
Other make or format
5.1% 4  votes
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Jacques Cornell
Jacques Cornell Forum Pro • Posts: 12,340
Format names
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Erik Kaffehr wrote:

Hi,

Would be interesting to see which systems readers have.
Please indicate the system that you are most likely to use for important work.

Best regards

Erik Kaffehr

FWIW, any image that hasn't been cropped after capture is "full frame". This how the term was used for decades before CaNikon's marketing departments mangled it. And, FWIW, prior to digital, 35mm was referred to as "small format", as opposed to the still-unmangled terms "medium format" and "large format". The correct term for a sensor that's 24mm x 36mm is "35mm format". There's nothing "fuller" about an image from a 35mm format sensor than from any other sensor format.

As for the term "cropped sensor", well, with few exceptions, sensors aren't substantially "cropped", although some may have a few pixels around the edges that aren't included in the final readout. Some sensors are larger or smaller than others. That's it. Otherwise, any sensor smaller than the very largest sensor anywhere in the world would be referred to as "cropped", which would be unhelpful if not absurd.

I shoot several formats, all of them "small" and "cropped", including 35mm.

Words matter, and precision in their use helps.

Maybe I should change my signature to "Don Quixote".

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Erik Kaffehr
OP Erik Kaffehr Veteran Member • Posts: 4,096
Re: Format names
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Jacques Cornell wrote:

Erik Kaffehr wrote:

Hi,

Would be interesting to see which systems readers have.
Please indicate the system that you are most likely to use for important work.

Best regards

Erik Kaffehr

FWIW, any image that hasn't been cropped after capture is "full frame". This how the term was used for decades before CaNikon's marketing departments mangled it. And, FWIW, prior to digital, 35mm was referred to as "small format", as opposed to the still-unmangled terms "medium format" and "large format". The correct term for a sensor that's 24mm x 36mm is "35mm format". There's nothing "fuller" about an image from a 35mm format sensor than from any other sensor format.

As for the term "cropped sensor", well, with few exceptions, sensors aren't substantially "cropped", although some may have a few pixels around the edges that aren't included in the final readout. Some sensors are larger or smaller than others. That's it. Otherwise, any sensor smaller than the very largest sensor anywhere in the world would be referred to as "cropped", which would be unhelpful if not absurd.

I shoot several formats, all of them "small" and "cropped", including 35mm.

Words matter, and precision in their use helps.

Maybe I should change my signature to "Don Quixote".

Hi jacques,

I essentially agree with your writing. I considered writing 24x36 mm instead of full frame.
But, it seems that 'full frame' is the pretty established name for 24x36 mm, so I decided to use that term.

Best regards

Erik

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Jacques Cornell
Jacques Cornell Forum Pro • Posts: 12,340
Re: Format names
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Erik Kaffehr wrote:

Jacques Cornell wrote:

Erik Kaffehr wrote:

Hi,

Would be interesting to see which systems readers have.
Please indicate the system that you are most likely to use for important work.

Best regards

Erik Kaffehr

FWIW, any image that hasn't been cropped after capture is "full frame". This how the term was used for decades before CaNikon's marketing departments mangled it. And, FWIW, prior to digital, 35mm was referred to as "small format", as opposed to the still-unmangled terms "medium format" and "large format". The correct term for a sensor that's 24mm x 36mm is "35mm format". There's nothing "fuller" about an image from a 35mm format sensor than from any other sensor format.

As for the term "cropped sensor", well, with few exceptions, sensors aren't substantially "cropped", although some may have a few pixels around the edges that aren't included in the final readout. Some sensors are larger or smaller than others. That's it. Otherwise, any sensor smaller than the very largest sensor anywhere in the world would be referred to as "cropped", which would be unhelpful if not absurd.

I shoot several formats, all of them "small" and "cropped", including 35mm.

Words matter, and precision in their use helps.

Maybe I should change my signature to "Don Quixote".

Hi jacques,

I essentially agree with your writing. I considered writing 24x36 mm instead of full frame.
But, it seems that 'full frame' is the pretty established name for 24x36 mm, so I decided to use that term.

Best regards

Erik

It's not hard to write "35mm format". It's just one additional letter. It's also more readily comprehended than "24mm x 36mm" by neophytes who may not be familiar with the physical sizes of sensors and film. Pretty much everyone interested in photography knows what "35mm format" means, although that may not be the case in another decade or two as references to film fade and such terms become quaint historical artifacts.

That said, nothing about format terminology makes a lot of sense. I mean, what aspect of a 24mm x 36mm rectangle is 35mm? And "one inch" sensors aren't anywhere near 1" in any dimension. They're named after a cathode ray tube, used in old video cameras, that had a neck diameter of 1". Sheesh.

Also, what does it mean for a frame to be "full"? Is it crammed edge-to-edge with lots of subjects, perhaps a stadium full of faces? Is it the "fullest" view of a scene, maybe a wide-angle panorama or a 360-degree image? And, if you're using "full" to mean "entire" or "complete", well, that applies to any uncropped capture.

The idea that any format is the "full" one bothers me because 1) it's nonsensical, and 2) it represents the unconscious popular acceptance of bias self-servingly peddled by marketers.

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AlbertTheLazy
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Re: Format names
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Jacques Cornell wrote:

Still, the idea that any format is the "full" one bothers me because 1) it's nonsensical, and 2) it represents the unconscious popular acceptance of bias self-servingly peddled by marketers.

Come back 'Full plate', all is forgiven!

http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Plate_sizes

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Jacques Cornell
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Re: Format names

AlbertTheLazy wrote:

Jacques Cornell wrote:

Still, the idea that any format is the "full" one bothers me because 1) it's nonsensical, and 2) it represents the unconscious popular acceptance of bias self-servingly peddled by marketers.

Come back 'Full plate', all is forgiven!

http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Plate_sizes

Perhaps 6½ × 8½ were the largest glass photosensitive plates ever made. I notice the larger formats listed are all sheet film.

I'm pretty sure 35mm sensors are not the largest imaging sensors ever made. 

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rurikw
rurikw Veteran Member • Posts: 3,012
Re: Which camera is your main camera?

I ticked Panasonic 4/3 because I assumed you actually meant m4/3.

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Erik Kaffehr
OP Erik Kaffehr Veteran Member • Posts: 4,096
Re: Which camera is your main camera?

rurikw wrote:

I ticked Panasonic 4/3 because I assumed you actually meant m4/3.

Yes,

m4/3 is a variant of the 4/3 format, intended for mirrorless cameras.

The reason I used the term 4/3 was to allow for both m4/3 and 4/3, but above all to separate from Panasonic's 24x36 mm format.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Thirds_system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Four_Thirds_system

Best regards

Erik

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KCook
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Re: Which camera is your main camera?

Would be interesting to see which systems readers have.
Please indicate the system that you are most likely to use for important work.

This appears to assume we are all professionals???  The system I have and use most is M4/3.  So that got my vote.  However, "important work" implies a client.  I am a hobby guy, for a fat check I would not use my M4/3 hobby camera.

Kelly

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Erik Kaffehr
OP Erik Kaffehr Veteran Member • Posts: 4,096
Re: Which camera is your main camera?
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KCook wrote:

Would be interesting to see which systems readers have.
Please indicate the system that you are most likely to use for important work.

This appears to assume we are all professionals??? The system I have and use most is M4/3. So that got my vote. However, "important work" implies a client. I am a hobby guy, for a fat check I would not use my M4/3 hobby camera.

Kelly

Hi,

I don't think it implies doing paid work.

Just as an instance, let's say that I do travel and want to have good images. That case I would consider that important. Because I may not get to that place another day in the same weather.

The polls here don't allow for multiple choices. The writing is just intended as a guideline what gear to mention when there are different option.

In my case, my total earnings from photography probably sum up to 20$ in 50 years,

But I have Sony APS-C, Sony 24x36 mm, Hasselblad with a digital back.

If I go some place where I want good pictures, I would certainly take the Sony 24x36 mm.

This shot to me a three hour walk, back and forth, I used the Sony A7rII with a Canon zoom lens.

This one was shot next morning, just 30 m from my RV, this time I used the Hasselblad with my P45 back.

Best regard

Erik

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KCook
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Re: Which camera is your main camera?

Erik Kaffehr wrote:

KCook wrote:

Would be interesting to see which systems readers have.
Please indicate the system that you are most likely to use for important work.

This appears to assume we are all professionals??? The system I have and use most is M4/3. So that got my vote. However, "important work" implies a client. I am a hobby guy, for a fat check I would not use my M4/3 hobby camera.

Kelly

Hi,

I don't think it implies doing paid work.

Just as an instance, let's say that I do travel and want to have good images. That case I would consider that important. Because I may not get to that place another day in the same weather.

The polls here don't allow for multiple choices. The writing is just intended as a guideline what gear to mention when there are different option.

In my case, my total earnings from photography probably sum up to 20$ in 50 years,

But I have Sony APS-C, Sony 24x36 mm, Hasselblad with a digital back.

If I go some place where I want good pictures, I would certainly take the Sony 24x36 mm.

This shot to me a three hour walk, back and forth, I used the Sony A7rII with a Canon zoom lens.

This one was shot next morning, just 30 m from my RV, this time I used the Hasselblad with my P45 back.

Best regard

Erik

To fit that example I would have to say I never do important work!

Kelly

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jrtrent Veteran Member • Posts: 5,797
other, Samsung APS-C
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Though lately, I find myself often turning to a Sigma 1.7X crop sensor compact camera, instead; at people gatherings, the smaller and less aggressively styled compact seems to help others feel more at ease than when using the DSLR.

evetsf Senior Member • Posts: 1,353
Re: other, Samsung APS-C

jrtrent wrote:

Though lately, I find myself often turning to a Sigma 1.7X crop sensor compact camera, instead; at people gatherings, the smaller and less aggressively styled compact seems to help others feel more at ease than when using the DSLR.

+1

I have two Panasonic m43 bodies: DSLR-style G9 & rangefinder-style GX9. The GX comes out to play at those times when one does not want to be the conspicuous photographer. With the Pana 20mm f/1.7 pancake lens it looks "harmless" but takes great photos.

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Erik Kaffehr
OP Erik Kaffehr Veteran Member • Posts: 4,096
Thanks for doing the poll!

Hi,

Thanks for responding. But we need more answers to get any picture of what folks use!

I have noted that a significant number of responders use systems that were not listed. Sorry I missed!

What systems are used?

Best regards

Erik

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jrtrent Veteran Member • Posts: 5,797
Re: Thanks for doing the poll!

Erik Kaffehr wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for responding. But we need more answers to get any picture of what folks use!

Probably a lot more people would see the poll if it were moved to the Open Talk forum.  I don't see a moderator listed for this forum, but you might try the feedback link to see if someone could move it.

MikeyBugs95
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Re: Which camera is your main camera?

Well at least I know I'm not alone in using Pentax in this poll...

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pocoloco Senior Member • Posts: 2,874
Re: Which camera is your main camera?

Got an OMD EM1 M1 and two OMD EM5 M2 cameras. Isn't a main camera between these three. The lens that is on them determines which one I use

Still got a Panasonic GX7 but I am bout to sell it (if anyone is willing to exchange some money for it )

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