From A6300 to A6600. Is it worth it?

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valenterio Regular Member • Posts: 201
From A6300 to A6600. Is it worth it?

I love my A6300. It has given me amazing images for the past several years. However, it is several years old and I do occasionally get an out of focus shot. I know all the specs of the A6600 but am wondering if I would see even a smidge of better quality in the 6600 and perhaps more reliable focus. I shoot mainly static architectural and only RAW. Has anyone out there traded up to a 6600 from a 6300?  Thanks.

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VBlaster_W211 New Member • Posts: 11
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I'm also using the a6300, and just bought the a7riii when it dropped in price. I'll consider the a6600 if my subject needs fast tracking, or when I need to take long videos without stopping or overheating.

The a6600 grip is amazing. If it were cheaper I would had bought it at launch. Now still considering.

To me, the Sony APSC complements the FF, and my a7riii does not replace the apsc. There are many occassions when I prefer to travel light and pack small.

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VBlaster_W211 wrote:

I'm also using the a6300, and just bought the a7riii when it dropped in price. I'll consider the a6600 if my subject needs fast tracking, or when I need to take long videos without stopping or overheating.

The a6600 grip is amazing. If it were cheaper I would had bought it at launch. Now still considering.

To me, the Sony APSC complements the FF, and my a7riii does not replace the apsc. There are many occassions when I prefer to travel light and pack small.

I agree. I have the A6500 which I will give to my Wife and I just ordered the A6600. I have the A7RIV and even with its 26 megapixel crop mode it doesn’t replace having a smaller kit when wanted or needed. I figure the larger grip, sharing the same battery as my R4, touch screen shutter release and yes the better AF makes it worth it to me. Plus I was out trying to track a hawk today with my 6500 and it failed miserably. Lol. Also a screen that doesn’t dim when recording 4K like my 6500 will be nice. I would think going from the 6300 would be a worthy upgrade. I just wish they had upgraded the EVF on the A6600. But that’s me.

Off The Mark Senior Member • Posts: 2,988
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I shoot mainly static architectural and only RAW.

Maybe a7 III and tamron 28-75 instead of a6600??? Don't know if the advanced AF functions of the a6600 are going to be all that helpful.

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VBlaster_W211 wrote:

I'm also using the a6300, and just bought the a7riii when it dropped in price. I'll consider the a6600 if my subject needs fast tracking, or when I need to take long videos without stopping or overheating.

The a6600 grip is amazing. If it were cheaper I would had bought it at launch. Now still considering.

To me, the Sony APSC complements the FF, and my a7riii does not replace the apsc. There are many occassions when I prefer to travel light and pack small.

I prefer to pack small and travel light at all times, this is why the a6600 is now the main option to FF imo, its unique in the market and there is nothing like it, Sony got it spot on. For me the a6600 makes FF redundant, 1 stop of dr at base, 1 stop of better noise at iso6400 and a few extra pixels that gigapixel can easily provide if I need to make a gigantic print makes zero sense to gain what?

A finger dial and 1 stop of dof wide open, I prefer the corner evf to the center evf anyway and shallow dof is a benefit and a curse depending what you are shooting, when they are within 1 stop it makes the whole thing nuanced rather than anything else imo.

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Re: From A6300 to A6600. Is it worth it?

valenterio wrote:

I love my A6300. It has given me amazing images for the past several years. However, it is several years old and I do occasionally get an out of focus shot. I know all the specs of the A6600 but am wondering if I would see even a smidge of better quality in the 6600 and perhaps more reliable focus. I shoot mainly static architectural and only RAW. Has anyone out there traded up to a 6600 from a 6300? Thanks.

Over my a6500, similar to a6300, I have seen an improvement in iq which I am exploring, I have noticed the low noise of iso50, although it's pushed, but I am exploring how much of an issue it is with dr and highlights!

Also, it looks like you can shoot long shutter with electronic which might be interesting, again just exploring this. In latitude there is a definite improvement in shadows compared to the a6500, it appears to shoot 2/3 to 1 stop faster too for the same exposure, weird, will test this more.

So far, totally impressed with the a6600, a6500 will probably be used against another lens at some stage.

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Off The Mark wrote:

I shoot mainly static architectural and only RAW.

Maybe a7 III and tamron 28-75 instead of a6600??? Don't know if the advanced AF functions of the a6600 are going to be all that helpful.

As good as the 28-75 allegedly is, the a6600 and 16-55 is surely a much better proposition, especially if the op wants to add a tele for architecture too, the 70-350 is an unbelievable bargain for landscape and wildlife, offering up again state of the art af, compact 100-525 focal range. a7iii is what it is, a pseudo milc dslr with little advantage over the a6600 in any area, personally I prefer the corner evf and the thumb controls and the 16-55 with a 24mm start is better than the 28 start any day of the week, especially landscape and architecture and the 83mm tele is better than the 75 tele too if you want a compact 2.8c zoom!

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lovehifi wrote:

VBlaster_W211 wrote:

I'm also using the a6300, and just bought the a7riii when it dropped in price. I'll consider the a6600 if my subject needs fast tracking, or when I need to take long videos without stopping or overheating.

The a6600 grip is amazing. If it were cheaper I would had bought it at launch. Now still considering.

To me, the Sony APSC complements the FF, and my a7riii does not replace the apsc. There are many occassions when I prefer to travel light and pack small.

I agree. I have the A6500 which I will give to my Wife and I just ordered the A6600

Be interested in your comments when you get it lovehifi

. I have the A7RIV and even with its 26 megapixel crop mode it doesn’t replace having a smaller kit when wanted or needed. I figure the larger grip, sharing the same battery as my R4, touch screen shutter release and yes the better AF makes it worth it to me. Plus I was out trying to track a hawk today with my 6500 and it failed miserably. Lol. Also a screen that doesn’t dim when recording 4K like my 6500 will be nice. I would think going from the 6300 would be a worthy upgrade. I just wish they had upgraded the EVF on the A6600. But that’s me.

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Cooper82 Junior Member • Posts: 39
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Advent1sam wrote:

Off The Mark wrote:

I shoot mainly static architectural and only RAW.

Maybe a7 III and tamron 28-75 instead of a6600??? Don't know if the advanced AF functions of the a6600 are going to be all that helpful.

As good as the 28-75 allegedly is, the a6600 and 16-55 is surely a much better proposition, especially if the op wants to add a tele for architecture too, the 70-350 is an unbelievable bargain for landscape and wildlife, offering up again state of the art af, compact 100-525 focal range. a7iii is what it is, a pseudo milc dslr with little advantage over the a6600 in any area, personally I prefer the corner evf and the thumb controls and the 16-55 with a 24mm start is better than the 28 start any day of the week, especially landscape and architecture and the 83mm tele is better than the 75 tele too if you want a compact 2.8c zoom!

We both know the A6600 + Sony 16-55 2.8 is far more expensive than an A7iii + Tamron 28-75. The OP isn't even looking for a zoom.

That being said, the OP is looking for better image quality. The A6600 has very little upgrade over the A6300. The A7iii on the other hand will give a much more noticeable increase in picture quality. The A7iii routinely outperforms the A6500 (The A6600 hasn't been tested yet) at pretty much all ISO levels apart from maybe base ISO.

For architecture there's no APSC camera that compares to an A7iii + Sony GM 24mm f1.4 (which is the same price as the A6600+16-55 2.8 btw).

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brilly Senior Member • Posts: 1,985
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simple answer for op, basically no point upgrading

why would you?

iq is basically the same

static images wont run away so no need for AF improvements

battery life? again - swap battery - static images aren't running away

you'd lose a grand for nothing

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Cooper82 wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Off The Mark wrote:

I shoot mainly static architectural and only RAW.

Maybe a7 III and tamron 28-75 instead of a6600??? Don't know if the advanced AF functions of the a6600 are going to be all that helpful.

As good as the 28-75 allegedly is, the a6600 and 16-55 is surely a much better proposition, especially if the op wants to add a tele for architecture too, the 70-350 is an unbelievable bargain for landscape and wildlife, offering up again state of the art af, compact 100-525 focal range. a7iii is what it is, a pseudo milc dslr with little advantage over the a6600 in any area, personally I prefer the corner evf and the thumb controls and the 16-55 with a 24mm start is better than the 28 start any day of the week, especially landscape and architecture and the 83mm tele is better than the 75 tele too if you want a compact 2.8c zoom!

We both know the A6600 + Sony 16-55 2.8 is far more expensive than an A7iii + Tamron 28-75. The OP isn't even looking for a zoom.

That being said, the OP is looking for better image quality. The A6600 has very little upgrade over the A6300. The A7iii on the other hand will give a much more noticeable increase in picture quality.

actually it won't give you any better picture quality, except at iso100 you might pull a bit more hl and iso6400 you might get a little less noise, elsewhere you will not know one 24mp sensor of a6600 quality against any other FF 24mp sensor, it's impossible to detect any advantage in the real world and like I say shooting FF and aps-c is both a hindrance and a curse stopping down or opening up depending on the application. This guy threw in 28-75 so I threw in 16-55 which is of course better than a 28-75 imo.

The A7iii routinely outperforms the A6500 (The A6600 hasn't been tested yet) at pretty much all ISO levels apart from maybe base ISO.

Well, if you provide 2 images of equivalence we can analyse it, unfortunately equivalent images don't exist outside these labs as nobody ever takes equivalent images, and they seldom take the samples at equivalence either, aperture etc. But what real advanatage apart from that nice aperture ring do you think you'll gain from a gm 24 1.4 over the Sigma 16 1.4? Actually, I think the 24 1.4 ie a 35mm on the a6600 would be far nicer than it is on 24mpFF, I would concede that an a7r4 would probably provide the best of both worlds but then, a7r4, I don't need/want it.

Dustin Abbot tested the 16 1.4, I am not sure about other tests from optical limits/dxo etc but I think we all know the 16 1.4 is a very very good lens.

For architecture there's no APSC camera that compares to an A7iii + Sony GM 24mm f1.4 (which is the same price as the A6600+16-55 2.8 btw).

I'll take the a6600 and 16 1.4 over the a7iii and 24 1.4, every day of the week, I am no fan of dslr look cameras, so for me personally its a no thanks, then the af of the a6600 is state of the art, then there's the cost of the 24 1.4, which as I say I prefer for aps-c any way as the Sigma 16 1.4 is very very nice.

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Im not sure why everyone of these threads these days have to be turned into a FF vs APSC debate. The OP didn't even ask about FF !.

Going from the A6300 to the A6600 is unlikely to give that much noticeable improvement IQ. The colour science and way the images are processed is supposed to be better int he newer models and that may make some difference.

Where i think you will see an improvement is in the ergonomics and general handling. The a6600 has the My menu, more customs buttons , animal eye auto focus etc which are all improvements over the A6300. If you need them all not is more for you to decide. On paper the upgrade doesn't seem that great but i went to the store and got hold of the A6600 for 30mins  and was really impressed with it.

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Off The Mark Senior Member • Posts: 2,988
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a7iii is what it is, a pseudo milc dslr with little advantage over the a6600 in any area...

"Advantage" is kind of in the eye of the beholder...

For me, the advantages of an a7 III over the a6600 (or my current a6500) would be:

FAR better ergonomics (don't know how many times I have wanted to throw my a6500 in the garbage due to the ergonomics).

Center EVF (using a rangefinder style EVF when you are left-eye dominant is a royal pain in the keister).

Faster shutter sync speed

Faster max shutter

AF joystick

About 1.5 to 2 stops better dynamic range in video

Dual Card Slots

Better IBIS

There are other reasons too but can't think of them now since it is almost 4:00 in the morning (just finished sending off a bunch of images to a client).

I know you like the rangefinder style of the a6X00 series, but what some people will pay for, others will pay to avoid.

I miss the ergonomics of my D750.

But truth be told, I am much more likely to get a Panasonic S1 than an a7 III due to the significantly better video options, the even better IBIS, the even better flash sync speed (1/320th of a second), better UI and better ergonomics.

I won't buy anything though until spring and the camera shows and maybe we will have a better idea what the likes of Sony, Panaonic, and Fuji will release.

Till then, still chugging along with my a6500 and just cursing every time my clients are out of ear shot.

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Off The Mark Senior Member • Posts: 2,988
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Im not sure why everyone of these threads these days have to be turned into a FF vs APSC debate. The OP didn't even ask about FF !.

I made the suggestion to consider full frame because if you shoot architecture (as the original poster stated they do), full frame can help with dynamic range, which can be very helpful when you are trying to balance dark interiors with bright exterior views. Also, a lot of people like to use tilt-shift lenses for architecture and (as far as I know) there aren't any real aps-c tilt-shift lenses (meaning, I don't think there are tilt-shift lenses that would be around 12mm or so).

Also, if the OP shoots architectural interiors and uses flash, the faster shutter sync speed is helpful if you are dealing with bright window views.

Just trying to help the OP understand there are more ways than one to skin the proverbial cat.

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It might have been worth looking at the OP's gear list .

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From the OP: I shoot mainly static architectural and only RAW.

Based on this there is absolutely no need to "upgrade" to the a6600.  The sensors are the same and only a pixel peeper could tell the difference.  IMHO, the OP will not see improvement in the type of pictures taken.   No need to spend a thousand plus dollars for a bunch of whistles and bells that are not needed.

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Off The Mark wrote:

Also, a lot of people like to use tilt-shift lenses for architecture and (as far as I know) there aren't any real aps-c tilt-shift lenses (meaning, I don't think there are tilt-shift lenses that would be around 12mm or so).

I assume you're talking about a 12mm APS-C field of view, so 18mm FF. There is the Canon TS-E 17mm lens which, with a Speed Booster Ultra, gives a FF equivalent FOV on APS-C plus adds an additional stop of light.

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VBlaster_W211 New Member • Posts: 11
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Cooper82 wrote:

Advent1sam wrote:

Off The Mark wrote:

I shoot mainly static architectural and only RAW.

Maybe a7 III and tamron 28-75 instead of a6600??? Don't know if the advanced AF functions of the a6600 are going to be all that helpful.

As good as the 28-75 allegedly is, the a6600 and 16-55 is surely a much better proposition, especially if the op wants to add a tele for architecture too, the 70-350 is an unbelievable bargain for landscape and wildlife, offering up again state of the art af, compact 100-525 focal range. a7iii is what it is, a pseudo milc dslr with little advantage over the a6600 in any area, personally I prefer the corner evf and the thumb controls and the 16-55 with a 24mm start is better than the 28 start any day of the week, especially landscape and architecture and the 83mm tele is better than the 75 tele too if you want a compact 2.8c zoom!

We both know the A6600 + Sony 16-55 2.8 is far more expensive than an A7iii + Tamron 28-75. The OP isn't even looking for a zoom.

That being said, the OP is looking for better image quality. The A6600 has very little upgrade over the A6300. The A7iii on the other hand will give a much more noticeable increase in picture quality. The A7iii routinely outperforms the A6500 (The A6600 hasn't been tested yet) at pretty much all ISO levels apart from maybe base ISO.

For architecture there's no APSC camera that compares to an A7iii + Sony GM 24mm f1.4 (which is the same price as the A6600+16-55 2.8 btw).

For architecture interior, I love my a7riii + Tamron 1728F2.8.

Over here, the a6600 + 16-55 is cheaper than the a7iii + Tamron 2875. The 16-55 can be had about usd 1250. Edited to remove political comments moderator.

jb12 Regular Member • Posts: 165
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The omission of 1/8000 shutter is inexcusable. A6600 is definitely a no buy for me.

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Morph1909 wrote:

Im not sure why everyone of these threads these days have to be turned into a FF vs APSC debate. The OP didn't even ask about FF !.

Correct, this forum is constantly bashed around the head with it!

Going from the A6300 to the A6600 is unlikely to give that much noticeable improvement IQ. The colour science and way the images are processed is supposed to be better int he newer models and that may make some difference.

Where i think you will see an improvement is in the ergonomics and general handling. The a6600 has the My menu, more customs buttons , animal eye auto focus etc which are all improvements over the A6300. If you need them all not is more for you to decide. On paper the upgrade doesn't seem that great but i went to the store and got hold of the A6600 for 30mins and was really impressed with it.

The huge battery for time lapse/star trails, the enhanced e-shutter, do need to check that my a6500 allowed long shutter speeds in e-shutter! The extra c3 button is a nice touch as is the large deep grip. For video, you have eye af in video, you have headphone, flippy screen and of course touch screen over the a6300 along with ibis!

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