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Olympus E-PL9 vs E-PL10

Started Nov 21, 2019 | Discussions
mrfabio
mrfabio Regular Member • Posts: 216
Olympus E-PL9 vs E-PL10

Hi,

I was thinking of buying the E-M5 III (we’ll still thinking) to upgrade my beautiful metallic E-M5 II with higher view finder resolution and bigger battery (😜), but then I saw this beautiful black, even lighter and portable new E-PL10. It can be my second body and matches perfectly with my three lenses 17, 25 both 1.8 and EZ pancake zoom.

But I can’t believe is equal to the E-PL9 that is 50% cheaper, so guys do you know which improvements did they add apart from external design and the possibility to reduce/increase their art filters?

i really like this camera, even if it’s £599 body only and on eBay I can find the discontinued Pen-F for a similar price πŸ™ˆ

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Daneland
Daneland Senior Member • Posts: 4,003
Re: Olympus E-PL9 vs E-PL10

mrfabio wrote:

i really like this camera, even if it’s £599 body only and on eBay I can find the discontinued Pen-F for a similar price πŸ™ˆ

It is not £599, you can get for £479

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mrfabio
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Re: Olympus E-PL9 vs E-PL10

Daneland wrote:

mrfabio wrote:

i really like this camera, even if it’s £599 body only and on eBay I can find the discontinued Pen-F for a similar price πŸ™ˆ

It is not £599, you can get for £479

Wow amazing! Thanks a lot! I didn’t know about that coupon!!

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Helen
Helen Veteran Member • Posts: 7,606
Re: Olympus E-PL9 vs E-PL10
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mrfabio wrote:

Hi,

I was thinking of buying the E-M5 III (we’ll still thinking) to upgrade my beautiful metallic E-M5 II with higher view finder resolution and bigger battery (😜), but then I saw this beautiful black, even lighter and portable new E-PL10. It can be my second body and matches perfectly with my three lenses 17, 25 both 1.8 and EZ pancake zoom.

But I can’t believe is equal to the E-PL9 that is 50% cheaper, so guys do you know which improvements did they add apart from external design and the possibility to reduce/increase their art filters?

i really like this camera, even if it’s £599 body only and on eBay I can find the discontinued Pen-F for a similar price πŸ™ˆ

I read that the E-PL10 will only be sold in the UK via the Olympus webshop, though with an extra free lens, the 45mm f1.8.  Don't know how long that offer lasts, and whether it will stay limited to there.

Aside from the colours, the E-PL9 and E-PL10 are physically identical.  I am not sure if you are aware that they are polycarbonate bodied, not metal like the E-PL3, 5, 6, 7 and 8 (I mention this since you seem to value metal build) - the E-PL1 and E-PL2 had metal fronts and polycarbonate backs - actually the E-PL3 to E-PL7 inclusive did have a plastic "island" on the top, between the two metal halves and the E-PL1 and 2 had a polycarbonate rim onto which the front metal shell and back polycarbonate shell were mounted, come to think of it.

These two cameras do not have compatibility with any optional EVF as they lack the Accessory Port, unlike all the previous E-PL models.

They share lineage with the E-M10 Mark III, so like it, they have very reduced menus and options, configurations etc. and the number of functions assignable to any customisable button is fewer.  No MySets or Custom modes.

They do have a pop-up flash, missing since the E-PL2, and a hot shoe, but unlike the other recent OM-D models, it doesn't have the power contact for the nice little FL-LM3 tilt and swivel flash (even the EM-10 Mark III can use that).  IBIS is 3-axis, like the original E-M10.

There is one more significant improvement IMHO to the E-PL10 over the E-PL9 though - it has silent shutter mode available in PASM modes.  The E-PL9 was the first E-PL model to have a silent shutter facility at all, but only in its own program-only sub-mode on the AP position of the dial, which is a more restricted type than P mode, as many items such as the strength of the noise filter, the ability to turn off "Keep Warm Color" in AWB and so forth are missing.  Also, turning the mode dial to AP always resets all the configurations of the modes within it to the factory defaults, whatever your settings elsewhere are (those remain intact) - things like the focus point pattern, always sets to Vivid mode, and so on.  You can change some of them to your preference and it will remember them session to session - until you leave AP mode.  The E-PL10 also has these restrictions, as does the E-M10 Mark III, as it still has the AP mode simplified/restricted Silent sub-mode - the E-PL10 is the only one of the three to also have the "proper" silent shutter option like other recent OM-D models except the E-M10 Mark III though.

Just so you are aware of the potential restrictions of these two cameras and the one improvement on the E-PL10 versus the E-PL9 (aside from the ability to tweak the strength of the Art Filters - also new for this model, but you already know about that one).

mrfabio
OP mrfabio Regular Member • Posts: 216
Re: Olympus E-PL9 vs E-PL10

Helen wrote:

mrfabio wrote:

Hi,

I was thinking of buying the E-M5 III (we’ll still thinking) to upgrade my beautiful metallic E-M5 II with higher view finder resolution and bigger battery (😜), but then I saw this beautiful black, even lighter and portable new E-PL10. It can be my second body and matches perfectly with my three lenses 17, 25 both 1.8 and EZ pancake zoom.

But I can’t believe is equal to the E-PL9 that is 50% cheaper, so guys do you know which improvements did they add apart from external design and the possibility to reduce/increase their art filters?

i really like this camera, even if it’s £599 body only and on eBay I can find the discontinued Pen-F for a similar price πŸ™ˆ

I read that the E-PL10 will only be sold in the UK via the Olympus webshop, though with an extra free lens, the 45mm f1.8. Don't know how long that offer lasts, and whether it will stay limited to there.

Aside from the colours, the E-PL9 and E-PL10 are physically identical. I am not sure if you are aware that they are polycarbonate bodied, not metal like the E-PL3, 5, 6, 7 and 8 (I mention this since you seem to value metal build) - the E-PL1 and E-PL2 had metal fronts and polycarbonate backs - actually the E-PL3 to E-PL7 inclusive did have a plastic "island" on the top, between the two metal halves and the E-PL1 and 2 had a polycarbonate rim onto which the front metal shell and back polycarbonate shell were mounted, come to think of it.

These two cameras do not have compatibility with any optional EVF as they lack the Accessory Port, unlike all the previous E-PL models.

They share lineage with the E-M10 Mark III, so like it, they have very reduced menus and options, configurations etc. and the number of functions assignable to any customisable button is fewer. No MySets or Custom modes.

They do have a pop-up flash, missing since the E-PL2, and a hot shoe, but unlike the other recent OM-D models, it doesn't have the power contact for the nice little FL-LM3 tilt and swivel flash (even the EM-10 Mark III can use that). IBIS is 3-axis, like the original E-M10.

There is one more significant improvement IMHO to the E-PL10 over the E-PL9 though - it has silent shutter mode available in PASM modes. The E-PL9 was the first E-PL model to have a silent shutter facility at all, but only in its own program-only sub-mode on the AP position of the dial, which is a more restricted type than P mode, as many items such as the strength of the noise filter, the ability to turn off "Keep Warm Color" in AWB and so forth are missing. Also, turning the mode dial to AP always resets all the configurations of the modes within it to the factory defaults, whatever your settings elsewhere are (those remain intact) - things like the focus point pattern, always sets to Vivid mode, and so on. You can change some of them to your preference and it will remember them session to session - until you leave AP mode. The E-PL10 also has these restrictions, as does the E-M10 Mark III, as it still has the AP mode simplified/restricted Silent sub-mode - the E-PL10 is the only one of the three to also have the "proper" silent shutter option like other recent OM-D models except the E-M10 Mark III though.

Just so you are aware of the potential restrictions of these two cameras and the one improvement on the E-PL10 versus the E-PL9 (aside from the ability to tweak the strength of the Art Filters - also new for this model, but you already know about that one).

Yeah in £479 body I can tolerate some plastic πŸ˜‚Anyway bought it now! With a free M.Zuiko Digital 45mm F1.8! 
Thanks a lot for the answerπŸ‘Œ

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jwilliams Veteran Member • Posts: 6,400
Neither ...
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mrfabio wrote:

Hi,

I was thinking of buying the E-M5 III (we’ll still thinking) to upgrade my beautiful metallic E-M5 II with higher view finder resolution and bigger battery (😜), but then I saw this beautiful black, even lighter and portable new E-PL10. It can be my second body and matches perfectly with my three lenses 17, 25 both 1.8 and EZ pancake zoom.

But I can’t believe is equal to the E-PL9 that is 50% cheaper, so guys do you know which improvements did they add apart from external design and the possibility to reduce/increase their art filters?

i really like this camera, even if it’s £599 body only and on eBay I can find the discontinued Pen-F for a similar price πŸ™ˆ

Neither.  Get a used EPL7 or 8.  The 9 & 10 lack the port for a viewfinder which is often necessary in bright sunlight.  If you can get a Pen F for the same price jump on it.

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Isola Verde
Isola Verde Forum Pro • Posts: 10,640
Bit late now but also the PL8...

With..

  • 2 Year Warranty
  • FREE £25 photo voucher to spend on anything on photo.jessops.com added to your order when you purchase any product over £150.

... Olympus PEN E-PL8 Mirrorless Camera in Black with 14-42 EZ and 40-150mm R Lenses

£399.00

https://www.jessops.com/p/olympus/pen-e-pl8-mirrorless-camera-in-black-with-14-42-ez-and-40-150mm-r-lenses-157769

Separate flash, and can be used with the various add-on viewfinders.

Or £50 less without the second zoom.... £349

Peter

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mrfabio
OP mrfabio Regular Member • Posts: 216
Re: Bit late now but also the PL8...

Isola Verde wrote:

With..

  • 2 Year Warranty
  • FREE £25 photo voucher to spend on anything on photo.jessops.com added to your order when you purchase any product over £150.

... Olympus PEN E-PL8 Mirrorless Camera in Black with 14-42 EZ and 40-150mm R Lenses

£399.00

https://www.jessops.com/p/olympus/pen-e-pl8-mirrorless-camera-in-black-with-14-42-ez-and-40-150mm-r-lenses-157769

Separate flash, and can be used with the various add-on viewfinders.

Or £50 less without the second zoom.... £349

Peter

Thanks! At the end I spent around £479 with a second prime lens that I didn’t have, I liked more the design of the black version... for me handling a nice camera that I like, instead of a military weapon, is part of my creative photography process..

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Isola Verde
Isola Verde Forum Pro • Posts: 10,640
Re: Bit late now but also the PL8...
1

mrfabio wrote:

Isola Verde wrote:

With..

  • 2 Year Warranty
  • FREE £25 photo voucher to spend on anything on photo.jessops.com added to your order when you purchase any product over £150.

... Olympus PEN E-PL8 Mirrorless Camera in Black with 14-42 EZ and 40-150mm R Lenses

£399.00

https://www.jessops.com/p/olympus/pen-e-pl8-mirrorless-camera-in-black-with-14-42-ez-and-40-150mm-r-lenses-157769

Separate flash, and can be used with the various add-on viewfinders.

Or £50 less without the second zoom.... £349

Peter

Thanks! At the end I spent around £479 with a second prime lens that I didn’t have, I liked more the design of the black version... for me handling a nice camera that I like, instead of a military weapon, is part of my creative photography process..

Hope they'll bring you great fun in making lots of great photos!

Peter

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