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NX lenses and the NX1

Started Oct 30, 2019 | Discussions
walter marshall Contributing Member • Posts: 924
NX lenses and the NX1

How many of you out there have a collection of NX lenses? I have and I’ve just ordered another, the 46mm f1.8, what amazes me about Samsung cameras considering they are now getting long in the tooth is how the NX1 is holding its price, you can’t find a cheap one that’s if you can find one even the NX30 is holding it’s price

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markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
Re: NX lenses and the NX1

walter marshall wrote:

How many of you out there have a collection of NX lenses? I have and I’ve just ordered another, the 46mm f1.8, what amazes me about Samsung cameras considering they are now getting long in the tooth is how the NX1 is holding its price, you can’t find a cheap one that’s if you can find one even the NX30 is holding it’s price

I find this too, I have quite a lot of NX lenses and both the NX1 and nx500. When either of those pack up I hope that they are both available and affordable as I don't feel like changing systems..

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Massao Senior Member • Posts: 2,580
Re: NX lenses and the NX1

walter marshall wrote:

How many of you out there have a collection of NX lenses? I have and I’ve just ordered another, the 46mm f1.8, what amazes me about Samsung cameras considering they are now getting long in the tooth is how the NX1 is holding its price, you can’t find a cheap one that’s if you can find one even the NX30 is holding it’s price

I still have a couple of lenses and two bodies (NX500 and NX3300)

Yes, NX gear is holding their prices very well. That just shows you how good the gear is even in 2019. For comparison, look at the price of Sony A gear. Its sold dirt cheap now.

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kypfer Contributing Member • Posts: 985
Re: NX lenses and the NX1

Massao wrote:

Yes, NX gear is holding their prices very well. That just shows you how good the gear is even in 2019. For comparison, look at the price of Sony A gear. Its sold dirt cheap now.

Sony A gear owners have an upgrade path, so their older equipment is being traded on in the normal course of events.

Samsung NX users have no other option than to buy second-hand if they wish to continue to utilize their lens investment. The inevitably diminishing number of working bodies will continue to maintain a buoyant resale market until it collapses completely

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Massao Senior Member • Posts: 2,580
Re: NX lenses and the NX1

kypfer wrote:

Massao wrote:

Yes, NX gear is holding their prices very well. That just shows you how good the gear is even in 2019. For comparison, look at the price of Sony A gear. Its sold dirt cheap now.

Sony A gear owners have an upgrade path, so their older equipment is being traded on in the normal course of events.

Samsung NX users have no other option than to buy second-hand if they wish to continue to utilize their lens investment. The inevitably diminishing number of working bodies will continue to maintain a buoyant resale market until it collapses completely

Good points. Question is what would make it collapse?

I must admit that I have reduced using my NX500 for videos because there's no external mic input possible (I use Sony a68 now). I miss the OIS but the AF is faster; significantly much less focus hunting, and; even less noisy AF with Sony 16-50mm f/2.8 SSM than it was with NX 18-200mm OIS lens.

By the way, which were the last/best models that support Samsung EM10 microphone? NX3300? NX300?

My new set-up for candid/home videos:

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markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
Re: NX lenses and the NX1
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Massao wrote:

kypfer wrote:

Massao wrote:

Yes, NX gear is holding their prices very well. That just shows you how good the gear is even in 2019. For comparison, look at the price of Sony A gear. Its sold dirt cheap now.

Sony A gear owners have an upgrade path, so their older equipment is being traded on in the normal course of events.

Samsung NX users have no other option than to buy second-hand if they wish to continue to utilize their lens investment. The inevitably diminishing number of working bodies will continue to maintain a buoyant resale market until it collapses completely

Good points. Question is what would make it collapse?

I must admit that I have reduced using my NX500 for videos because there's no external mic input possible (I use Sony a68 now). I miss the OIS but the AF is faster; significantly much less focus hunting, and; even less noisy AF with Sony 16-50mm f/2.8 SSM than it was with NX 18-200mm OIS lens.

By the way, which were the last/best models that support Samsung EM10 microphone? NX3300? NX300?

My new set-up for candid/home videos:

I want that setup..

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kypfer Contributing Member • Posts: 985
Re: NX lenses and the NX1

Massao wrote:

kypfer wrote:

Sony A gear owners have an upgrade path, so their older equipment is being traded on in the normal course of events.

Samsung NX users have no other option than to buy second-hand if they wish to continue to utilize their lens investment. The inevitably diminishing number of working bodies will continue to maintain a buoyant resale market until it collapses completely

Good points. Question is what would make it collapse?

When the availability of replacement high-end NX cameras becomes so limited that there's simply not enough to meet demand, users will need to switch away to another system and their lenses will, eventually, flood the market.

As the prices of lenses start to drop, more users will try to sell their systems before the invested value disappears completely and so exacerbate the scenario!

Hopefully my NX5 will still be working and I'll be able to pick up a 30mm f/2 for peanuts

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markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
Re: NX lenses and the NX1
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kypfer wrote:

Massao wrote:

kypfer wrote:

Sony A gear owners have an upgrade path, so their older equipment is being traded on in the normal course of events.

Samsung NX users have no other option than to buy second-hand if they wish to continue to utilize their lens investment. The inevitably diminishing number of working bodies will continue to maintain a buoyant resale market until it collapses completely

Good points. Question is what would make it collapse?

When the availability of replacement high-end NX cameras becomes so limited that there's simply not enough to meet demand, users will need to switch away to another system and their lenses will, eventually, flood the market.

As the prices of lenses start to drop, more users will try to sell their systems before the invested value disappears completely and so exacerbate the scenario!

Hopefully my NX5 will still be working and I'll be able to pick up a 30mm f/2 for peanuts

So, when the lens prices start to drop and people sell their systems there will be an increased number of nx1s and nx500s for sale and the prices of those will drop?? And the lenses will increase in price again?? My head is spinning.

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kypfer Contributing Member • Posts: 985
Re: NX lenses and the NX1

markyboy81 wrote:

So, when the lens prices start to drop and people sell their systems there will be an increased number of nx1s and nx500s for sale and the prices of those will drop?? And the lenses will increase in price again?? My head is spinning.

The prices will drop because there won't be any competition to buy them. As the "high-end" users move out of the system there's likely to be very few new users who'll want to buy into an ageing and unsupported system except as a "novelty item", just 'cos it's cheap

I bought my NX5 in very similar circumstances. Camera with OIS 18-55mm, 2x batteries, charger and card, all in a case, for well below the auction estimate, simply because no-one else was interested.

I'd done my homework and knew I could buy lens adaptors for a whole range of manufacturers to fit on the NX5 for little more than pennies each as stockists clear their shelves.

So I got a platform for my pre-existing but retired Russian rangefinder lenses for under £50 with the bonus of being able to use any old manual-focus Canon/Nikon/Contax/Konica/Exakta/Olympus/Minolta etc. lenses I find, many of which are also available for "little more than pennies", simply because "everyone wants auto-focus zooms"

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Massao Senior Member • Posts: 2,580
Re: NX lenses and the NX1

markyboy81 wrote:

kypfer wrote:

Massao wrote:

kypfer wrote:

Sony A gear owners have an upgrade path, so their older equipment is being traded on in the normal course of events.

Samsung NX users have no other option than to buy second-hand if they wish to continue to utilize their lens investment. The inevitably diminishing number of working bodies will continue to maintain a buoyant resale market until it collapses completely

Good points. Question is what would make it collapse?

When the availability of replacement high-end NX cameras becomes so limited that there's simply not enough to meet demand, users will need to switch away to another system and their lenses will, eventually, flood the market.

As the prices of lenses start to drop, more users will try to sell their systems before the invested value disappears completely and so exacerbate the scenario!

Hopefully my NX5 will still be working and I'll be able to pick up a 30mm f/2 for peanuts

So, when the lens prices start to drop and people sell their systems there will be an increased number of nx1s and nx500s for sale and the prices of those will drop?? And the lenses will increase in price again?? My head is spinning.

Hahaha...I think that would be the time for me to pick up the things I don't have. NX1; 16-50 f/2.0-2.8; 85mm f/1.4; 50-150mm f/2.8

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markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
Re: NX lenses and the NX1
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Massao wrote:

markyboy81 wrote:

kypfer wrote:

Massao wrote:

kypfer wrote:

Sony A gear owners have an upgrade path, so their older equipment is being traded on in the normal course of events.

Samsung NX users have no other option than to buy second-hand if they wish to continue to utilize their lens investment. The inevitably diminishing number of working bodies will continue to maintain a buoyant resale market until it collapses completely

Good points. Question is what would make it collapse?

When the availability of replacement high-end NX cameras becomes so limited that there's simply not enough to meet demand, users will need to switch away to another system and their lenses will, eventually, flood the market.

As the prices of lenses start to drop, more users will try to sell their systems before the invested value disappears completely and so exacerbate the scenario!

Hopefully my NX5 will still be working and I'll be able to pick up a 30mm f/2 for peanuts

So, when the lens prices start to drop and people sell their systems there will be an increased number of nx1s and nx500s for sale and the prices of those will drop?? And the lenses will increase in price again?? My head is spinning.

Hahaha...I think that would be the time for me to pick up the things I don't have. NX1; 16-50 f/2.0-2.8; 85mm f/1.4; 50-150mm f/2.8

I have all of those apart from the 50-150 which I did have but sold as I wasn't using it much..kind of regret it now!

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GiM_6x Regular Member • Posts: 286
Re: NX lenses and the NX1

Samsung NX line, especially NX1, will keep the price as new since now, 5 years later, there is no camera to outperform ALL NX1 specifications.  Ergonomics included.
Seems that Samsung had a too long shot into the future, nobody belived.

There are new cameras which outperform SOME specifications, fps, CAF, internal recording, but not all. And YES, NX1 mechanics parts, buttons, dials, are weak...

Personal I feel that most missing on NX1 is his too small internal memory, it seems to be an SSD, so if it was 1T-2T it was able to record CinemaDNG... probably 14 bits 4-4-4...
And they still can do it easy (SoC has two PCIe lanes unused), so a small hardware mod and certainly some firmware update could still blow any camera currently on market.

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