85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison

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stimmer Veteran Member • Posts: 5,219
85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison
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Took a few quick snaps tonight.  Don't know how the comparison will look to you guys but wanted to throw it out there for those who are interested.

85mm 1.4G

85mm 1.8S

85mm 1.4G

85mm 1.8S

85mm 1.8S

85MM 1.8 S

85MM 1.8S

JonJonJam Regular Member • Posts: 123
Re: 85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison

Not sure whether I can comment on anything here other than bokeh quality which seems fine on the 85S in comparison.   If looking at sharpness please increase the shutter speed.   Imo there is no advantage to have ISO at 200 vast majority of the time.

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A Owens Veteran Member • Posts: 3,415
Re: 85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison
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Unlike Pooch, I am impressed. The bokeh of the S is very nice. It gives nothing away to the G.

Are all other settings the same? The colours are quite different. I much prefer the S colours but is it all up to the lens?

OP stimmer Veteran Member • Posts: 5,219
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Yes, setting exactly the same. It was a super quick shoot. I just threw it on aperture priority and shot. I thought I had it on auto iso but maybe not.  I agree a faster shutter speed would help.

my thoughts are that I’m more impressed with my 85 1.4 than i thought I would be. Doesn’t make sense for me to keep both so I have a hard decision ahead.

Oldwino Regular Member • Posts: 224
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f1.8 is the new f1.4.

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SaltyPeanut Senior Member • Posts: 1,210
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stimmer wrote:

Yes, setting exactly the same. It was a super quick shoot. I just threw it on aperture priority and shot. I thought I had it on auto iso but maybe not. I agree a faster shutter speed would help.

my thoughts are that I’m more impressed with my 85 1.4 than i thought I would be. Doesn’t make sense for me to keep both so I have a hard decision ahead.

Your G has CA everywhere, where the S has none. Look at his arms/hands, ankles/sneakers and the pots with red flowers in the background, by the stairs, for example.

Only odd thing here is the S should be sharper, but sharpness looks the same, though it looks like it has some blur...was IBIS on? Looks like you got lucky and have a sharp 85 G in your hands. Hardly any difference in bokeh between 1.4 and 1.8 here though, so in that case, what's the point in keeping the G, assuming the S will focus better/faster on a z body?

Also funny how the G has the traditional Nikon green tint, but the S has the opposite tint towards magenta.

What pic control did you use? Try a few more in neutral pic control, higher shutter speed, iso 100, IBIS on normal?

Are these RAWs exported from LR or SOOC JPEGs?

What AF mode did you use?

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ipopov Forum Member • Posts: 88
Re: 85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison

Were camera and model positions unchanged? Z 18/1.8 S shots look somewhat wider.

MSullivan Regular Member • Posts: 144
Re: 85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison
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SaltyPeanut wrote:

stimmer wrote:

Yes, setting exactly the same. It was a super quick shoot. I just threw it on aperture priority and shot. I thought I had it on auto iso but maybe not. I agree a faster shutter speed would help.

my thoughts are that I’m more impressed with my 85 1.4 than i thought I would be. Doesn’t make sense for me to keep both so I have a hard decision ahead.

Your G has CA everywhere, where the S has none. Look at his arms/hands, ankles/sneakers and the pots with red flowers in the background, by the stairs, for example.

Only odd thing here is the S should be sharper, but sharpness looks the same, though it looks like it has some blur...was IBIS on? Looks like you got lucky and have a sharp 85 G in your hands. Hardly any difference in bokeh between 1.4 and 1.8 here though, so in that case, what's the point in keeping the G, assuming the S will focus better/faster on a z body?

Also funny how the G has the traditional Nikon green tint, but the S has the opposite tint towards magenta.

What pic control did you use? Try a few more in neutral pic control, higher shutter speed, iso 100, IBIS on normal?

Are these RAWs exported from LR or SOOC JPEGs?

What AF mode did you use?

The funny thing is, looking at these photos at web sizes and not zooming in much the LoCA of the G lens actually seems to give the image more 'character', whereas the S lens feels more clinical, at least to me. Still, you can see that the LoCA is adding a lot of green to the OOF backgrounds.

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Jonathan F/2 Senior Member • Posts: 1,202
Re: 85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison

The CA on the 85mm 1.4 G is ugly, and was rectified in lenses like the 105mm 1.4 E lens. I'd sell while you still can and keep the 85mm 1.8 S. Better future proofing as well.

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OP stimmer Veteran Member • Posts: 5,219
Re: 85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison

I didn't notice the CA too much.  I agree with you I think I have a sharp copy of the 85G.  I don't think it's a crazy amount of difference between the two at all.

I have noticed a tint toward green with the 85G.  Seems to handle flare okay if not perfectly.

I need to try this test under controlled conditions.  I had people walking around us and I was switching lenses and I didn't get the same focal length each time either.  It really does look like blur or shutter shock with the 85S lens.  Not sure why but I never have IS turned off so I need to look at that.

I think there is a little difference in 1.4 vs 1.8.  Subtle but it's there.  My only reason for keeping that lens is just to avoid the trouble of selling it and just returning the 85S.

It also LOOKS more impressive but it doesn't mean that it is more impressive.  I need to try it out a little more.  I have a photoshoot Sunday and I think I will use the 85S lens a bunch to try it under pressure.

If I can get the results I want easily and I can sell the 85G then I will probably go that way.

SaltyPeanut wrote:

stimmer wrote:

Yes, setting exactly the same. It was a super quick shoot. I just threw it on aperture priority and shot. I thought I had it on auto iso but maybe not. I agree a faster shutter speed would help.

my thoughts are that I’m more impressed with my 85 1.4 than i thought I would be. Doesn’t make sense for me to keep both so I have a hard decision ahead.

Your G has CA everywhere, where the S has none. Look at his arms/hands, ankles/sneakers and the pots with red flowers in the background, by the stairs, for example.

Only odd thing here is the S should be sharper, but sharpness looks the same, though it looks like it has some blur...was IBIS on? Looks like you got lucky and have a sharp 85 G in your hands. Hardly any difference in bokeh between 1.4 and 1.8 here though, so in that case, what's the point in keeping the G, assuming the S will focus better/faster on a z body?

Also funny how the G has the traditional Nikon green tint, but the S has the opposite tint towards magenta.

What pic control did you use? Try a few more in neutral pic control, higher shutter speed, iso 100, IBIS on normal?

Are these RAWs exported from LR or SOOC JPEGs?

What AF mode did you use?

OP stimmer Veteran Member • Posts: 5,219
Re: 85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison

There is a character of the 85G that is there. Definitely less clinical in nature.  More issues to work around but in good light it's still a great lens.

MSullivan wrote:

SaltyPeanut wrote:

stimmer wrote:

Yes, setting exactly the same. It was a super quick shoot. I just threw it on aperture priority and shot. I thought I had it on auto iso but maybe not. I agree a faster shutter speed would help.

my thoughts are that I’m more impressed with my 85 1.4 than i thought I would be. Doesn’t make sense for me to keep both so I have a hard decision ahead.

Your G has CA everywhere, where the S has none. Look at his arms/hands, ankles/sneakers and the pots with red flowers in the background, by the stairs, for example.

Only odd thing here is the S should be sharper, but sharpness looks the same, though it looks like it has some blur...was IBIS on? Looks like you got lucky and have a sharp 85 G in your hands. Hardly any difference in bokeh between 1.4 and 1.8 here though, so in that case, what's the point in keeping the G, assuming the S will focus better/faster on a z body?

Also funny how the G has the traditional Nikon green tint, but the S has the opposite tint towards magenta.

What pic control did you use? Try a few more in neutral pic control, higher shutter speed, iso 100, IBIS on normal?

Are these RAWs exported from LR or SOOC JPEGs?

What AF mode did you use?

The funny thing is, looking at these photos at web sizes and not zooming in much the LoCA of the G lens actually seems to give the image more 'character', whereas the S lens feels more clinical, at least to me. Still, you can see that the LoCA is adding a lot of green to the OOF backgrounds.

OP stimmer Veteran Member • Posts: 5,219
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Definitely moved around so the perspective was different.  I need to try this test on a tripod with manual exposure settings.  But I do think shooting under duress like you really would shoot in real life is a good test.

SaltyPeanut
SaltyPeanut Senior Member • Posts: 1,210
Re: 85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison

stimmer wrote:

I didn't notice the CA too much. I agree with you I think I have a sharp copy of the 85G. I don't think it's a crazy amount of difference between the two at all.

I have noticed a tint toward green with the 85G. Seems to handle flare okay if not perfectly.

I need to try this test under controlled conditions. I had people walking around us and I was switching lenses and I didn't get the same focal length each time either. It really does look like blur or shutter shock with the 85S lens. Not sure why but I never have IS turned off so I need to look at that.

Set the shutter type to AUTO.

What AF mode did you use?

I think there is a little difference in 1.4 vs 1.8. Subtle but it's there. My only reason for keeping that lens is just to avoid the trouble of selling it and just returning the 85S.

It also LOOKS more impressive but it doesn't mean that it is more impressive. I need to try it out a little more. I have a photoshoot Sunday and I think I will use the 85S lens a bunch to try it under pressure.

If I can get the results I want easily and I can sell the 85G then I will probably go that way.

SaltyPeanut wrote:

stimmer wrote:

Yes, setting exactly the same. It was a super quick shoot. I just threw it on aperture priority and shot. I thought I had it on auto iso but maybe not. I agree a faster shutter speed would help.

my thoughts are that I’m more impressed with my 85 1.4 than i thought I would be. Doesn’t make sense for me to keep both so I have a hard decision ahead.

Your G has CA everywhere, where the S has none. Look at his arms/hands, ankles/sneakers and the pots with red flowers in the background, by the stairs, for example.

Only odd thing here is the S should be sharper, but sharpness looks the same, though it looks like it has some blur...was IBIS on? Looks like you got lucky and have a sharp 85 G in your hands. Hardly any difference in bokeh between 1.4 and 1.8 here though, so in that case, what's the point in keeping the G, assuming the S will focus better/faster on a z body?

Also funny how the G has the traditional Nikon green tint, but the S has the opposite tint towards magenta.

What pic control did you use? Try a few more in neutral pic control, higher shutter speed, iso 100, IBIS on normal?

Are these RAWs exported from LR or SOOC JPEGs?

What AF mode did you use?

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OP stimmer Veteran Member • Posts: 5,219
Re: 85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison

Wide area with eye detection.

SaltyPeanut
SaltyPeanut Senior Member • Posts: 1,210
Re: 85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison

stimmer wrote:

Wide area with eye detection.

AF-C right?

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OP stimmer Veteran Member • Posts: 5,219
Re: 85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison

Af-s

LarsHP
LarsHP Forum Member • Posts: 64
Re: 85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison

Thanks for posting your test shots.

However, in terms of sharpness, we can't compare them. In the first comparison the 85S is front-focused (sharpness is on the hands, not the face) and in the next comparison the 85S shot is quite shaken (has motion blur).

If feel confident that if you redo the test on tripod and fixed motive, the sharpness of the 85S will shine and the 85G will look a bit soft in comparison.

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SaltyPeanut
SaltyPeanut Senior Member • Posts: 1,210
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stimmer wrote:

Af-s

This may explain the motion blur. Try AF-C next time.

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rubank Senior Member • Posts: 1,116
Re: 85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison

Unfortunately every image is misfocussed, and add to that clear motion blur.

So what are you trying to prove?

OP stimmer Veteran Member • Posts: 5,219
Re: 85mm 1.8 S vs 85mm 1.4 G lens comparison
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Not trying to prove anything. Just posted some quick snaps that I took to give a little context for anybody who might be in the same boat. I’ve got some more shooting to do before I decide.  It was last minute and getting dark and switching lenses proved to be problematic for me trying to give a similar comparison.

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