New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

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W3PYF
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The new iPadOS makes the iPad Pro tablets a quantum leap forward in portable image processing – especially Sony ARW files.

The iPad Pro now accepts hard drives directly – and when those hard drives are formatted as OSX journaled, very competitive with the MacBook Pro in both speed of attachment and access.

iPadOS now reads and displays Sony ARW files as well as jpegs. And even neater, when you click on one, you can load it directly into Lightroom (or almost any other imaging processing app you want) for immediate processing. And you can save the processed file anywhere you wish, including the cloud (although it also loads it to the Adobe cloud if you use it).

It now accepts a Bluetooth mouse or trackpad. While the functionality reminds me of the single-button mouse connected to a 1984 Mac, that will surely improve with subsequent OS updates.

I’ve found an excellent Bluetooth keyboard, and I’ve added a 8-in-1 hub to my travel kit. That hub connects SD cards, hard drives, USB drives, HDMI cables and – if I wanted – Ethernet connections, all while passing through power to the USB-C socket on the iPad Pro.

The proliferation of image processing apps available for the iPad, along with Office 365 apps, persuaded me to replace my aging 13” MacBook Pro and 9.7” iPad Pro with a 12.9” iPad Pro – as soon as iPadOS was announced. That proved a good choice.

iPadOS has many other upgrades from iOS 13 that make the iPad Pro such a pleasure to use. I’ve just “focused” on Sony ARW advantages here.

I have no intention to respond to any “yeah but Android and Surface had all that first” comments from those who don’t like Apple. Apple phone and Genius Bar support, its aggressive cleansing of its App Store, resistance to viruses and malware, and smooth integration across my iMac, iPhone 11 Pro Max and iPad Pro persuade me of the wisdom of switching to Apple from Windows almost a decade ago. If you’re happy with alternatives, good for you. My hardware is for business as well as pleasure, and so, access to great Apple support justifies the cost to me.

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LarryRC Contributing Member • Posts: 722
Re: New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

W3PYF wrote:

The new iPadOS makes the iPad Pro tablets a quantum leap forward in portable image processing – especially Sony ARW files.

The iPad Pro now accepts hard drives directly – and when those hard drives are formatted as OSX journaled, very competitive with the MacBook Pro in both speed of attachment and access.

iPadOS now reads and displays Sony ARW files as well as jpegs. And even neater, when you click on one, you can load it directly into Lightroom (or almost any other imaging processing app you want) for immediate processing. And you can save the processed file anywhere you wish, including the cloud (although it also loads it to the Adobe cloud if you use it).

It now accepts a Bluetooth mouse or trackpad. While the functionality reminds me of the single-button mouse connected to a 1984 Mac, that will surely improve with subsequent OS updates.

I’ve found an excellent Bluetooth keyboard, and I’ve added a 8-in-1 hub to my travel kit. That hub connects SD cards, hard drives, USB drives, HDMI cables and – if I wanted – Ethernet connections, all while passing through power to the USB-C socket on the iPad Pro.

The proliferation of image processing apps available for the iPad, along with Office 365 apps, persuaded me to replace my aging 13” MacBook Pro and 9.7” iPad Pro with a 12.9” iPad Pro – as soon as iPadOS was announced. That proved a good choice.

iPadOS has many other upgrades from iOS 13 that make the iPad Pro such a pleasure to use. I’ve just “focused” on Sony ARW advantages here.

I have no intention to respond to any “yeah but Android and Surface had all that first” comments from those who don’t like Apple. Apple phone and Genius Bar support, its aggressive cleansing of its App Store, resistance to viruses and malware, and smooth integration across my iMac, iPhone 11 Pro Max and iPad Pro persuade me of the wisdom of switching to Apple from Windows almost a decade ago. If you’re happy with alternatives, good for you. My hardware is for business as well as pleasure, and so, access to great Apple support justifies the cost to me.

I’m using the latest iPadPro 11 inch with 13.1.2. I’m shooting raw (slot 1) and jpg (slot 2) using my A7r iv. I have the following observations / questions:

1. I’m still seeing the raw Arw files as blanks in photos. Can’t find an updated list of supported cameras. I don’t believe that Apple in supporting the iv yet?

2. Plugging a usb-c cable between my A7r iv and this iPad I can download the raw files only. Works great for backup. It’s faster though to take the sdxc 1 card out of the camera and use the card reader. If I use the card reader then I can’t later download the jpgs for some reason. It says that all files have been downloaded even though that’s not true.

3. To get the jpgs I have to plug in a sdxc card reader to my iPad and put the card from slot 2 into the reader and then I can transfer the jpgs.

4. I can see and edit full res fine jpgs in photos. And the editing has more options than iOS 12.

And where is the full PS that was promised for this year on this iPadPro?

Don’t get me wrong I love this technology and where apple is going.

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sunny16day New Member • Posts: 5
Re: New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

W3PYF wrote:

The new iPadOS makes the iPad Pro tablets a quantum leap forward in portable image processing – especially Sony ARW files.

The iPad Pro now accepts hard drives directly – and when those hard drives are formatted as OSX journaled, very competitive with the MacBook Pro in both speed of attachment and access.

iPadOS now reads and displays Sony ARW files as well as jpegs. And even neater, when you click on one, you can load it directly into Lightroom (or almost any other imaging processing app you want) for immediate processing. And you can save the processed file anywhere you wish, including the cloud (although it also loads it to the Adobe cloud if you use it).

It now accepts a Bluetooth mouse or trackpad. While the functionality reminds me of the single-button mouse connected to a 1984 Mac, that will surely improve with subsequent OS updates.

I’ve found an excellent Bluetooth keyboard, and I’ve added a 8-in-1 hub to my travel kit. That hub connects SD cards, hard drives, USB drives, HDMI cables and – if I wanted – Ethernet connections, all while passing through power to the USB-C socket on the iPad Pro.

The proliferation of image processing apps available for the iPad, along with Office 365 apps, persuaded me to replace my aging 13” MacBook Pro and 9.7” iPad Pro with a 12.9” iPad Pro – as soon as iPadOS was announced. That proved a good choice.

iPadOS has many other upgrades from iOS 13 that make the iPad Pro such a pleasure to use. I’ve just “focused” on Sony ARW advantages here.

I have no intention to respond to any “yeah but Android and Surface had all that first” comments from those who don’t like Apple. Apple phone and Genius Bar support, its aggressive cleansing of its App Store, resistance to viruses and malware, and smooth integration across my iMac, iPhone 11 Pro Max and iPad Pro persuade me of the wisdom of switching to Apple from Windows almost a decade ago. If you’re happy with alternatives, good for you. My hardware is for business as well as pleasure, and so, access to great Apple support justifies the cost to me.

Hello,

I am not in the "apple" is worse or apple is better than microsoft. I use whatever is best for the task e.g. my servers run on linux (and certain linux distros are better than others, but I won't get into that). Most of my work computers run windows. People who make blanket statements about X or Y usually don't know much about X or Y so I can understand you don't want to get into those kind of debates.

When I bought my phone, apple phones didn't offer USB 3.1. They've had ports which theoretically support those speeds but when you test them, they operated at USB 2 speeds. I'm not sure if this is still the case (it was last year) but I imagine it is.

If I want to back up photographs to an SSD, I use an android phone and then I plug in a USB hub into its port. I put a memory card reader in one socket and an SD card in the other. There's no reason to take something as big as a tablet to do this.

I think you should look after data regardless of whether you're a hobbyist or pro. Most people can save themselves some money and use their phone.

LarryRC Contributing Member • Posts: 722
Re: New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

sunny16day wrote:

W3PYF wrote:

The new iPadOS makes the iPad Pro tablets a quantum leap forward in portable image processing – especially Sony ARW files.

The iPad Pro now accepts hard drives directly – and when those hard drives are formatted as OSX journaled, very competitive with the MacBook Pro in both speed of attachment and access.

iPadOS now reads and displays Sony ARW files as well as jpegs. And even neater, when you click on one, you can load it directly into Lightroom (or almost any other imaging processing app you want) for immediate processing. And you can save the processed file anywhere you wish, including the cloud (although it also loads it to the Adobe cloud if you use it).

It now accepts a Bluetooth mouse or trackpad. While the functionality reminds me of the single-button mouse connected to a 1984 Mac, that will surely improve with subsequent OS updates.

I’ve found an excellent Bluetooth keyboard, and I’ve added a 8-in-1 hub to my travel kit. That hub connects SD cards, hard drives, USB drives, HDMI cables and – if I wanted – Ethernet connections, all while passing through power to the USB-C socket on the iPad Pro.

The proliferation of image processing apps available for the iPad, along with Office 365 apps, persuaded me to replace my aging 13” MacBook Pro and 9.7” iPad Pro with a 12.9” iPad Pro – as soon as iPadOS was announced. That proved a good choice.

iPadOS has many other upgrades from iOS 13 that make the iPad Pro such a pleasure to use. I’ve just “focused” on Sony ARW advantages here.

I have no intention to respond to any “yeah but Android and Surface had all that first” comments from those who don’t like Apple. Apple phone and Genius Bar support, its aggressive cleansing of its App Store, resistance to viruses and malware, and smooth integration across my iMac, iPhone 11 Pro Max and iPad Pro persuade me of the wisdom of switching to Apple from Windows almost a decade ago. If you’re happy with alternatives, good for you. My hardware is for business as well as pleasure, and so, access to great Apple support justifies the cost to me.

Hello,

I am not in the "apple" is worse or apple is better than microsoft. I use whatever is best for the task e.g. my servers run on linux (and certain linux distros are better than others, but I won't get into that). Most of my work computers run windows. People who make blanket statements about X or Y usually don't know much about X or Y so I can understand you don't want to get into those kind of debates.

When I bought my phone, apple phones didn't offer USB 3.1. They've had ports which theoretically support those speeds but when you test them, they operated at USB 2 speeds. I'm not sure if this is still the case (it was last year) but I imagine it is.

If I want to back up photographs to an SSD, I use an android phone and then I plug in a USB hub into its port. I put a memory card reader in one socket and an SD card in the other. There's no reason to take something as big as a tablet to do this.

I think you should look after data regardless of whether you're a hobbyist or pro. Most people can save themselves some money and use their phone.

I agree there is no mileage in bashing.  I took my camera and iPadPro to bhphoto right after the upgrade as I was in nyc.  I asked for help with the questions I put in the second post here in this tread.  They suggested the sdxc usb-c card reader which got me going but the other questions are real if anyone has any insight?  And I do love my Apple products! Thanks. Larry

ps I’m from Portland OR. Going to BHPhoto was like going to an old Best Buy on steroids.  Huge multi floor space, older technology and customers everywhere.  I commented and they said “our online help is better than in store, 85% of our business in online”.

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W3PYF
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Re: New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

LarryRC wrote:

W3PYF wrote:

The new iPadOS makes the iPad Pro tablets a quantum leap forward in portable image processing – especially Sony ARW files.

The iPad Pro now accepts hard drives directly – and when those hard drives are formatted as OSX journaled, very competitive with the MacBook Pro in both speed of attachment and access.

iPadOS now reads and displays Sony ARW files as well as jpegs. And even neater, when you click on one, you can load it directly into Lightroom (or almost any other imaging processing app you want) for immediate processing. And you can save the processed file anywhere you wish, including the cloud (although it also loads it to the Adobe cloud if you use it).

It now accepts a Bluetooth mouse or trackpad. While the functionality reminds me of the single-button mouse connected to a 1984 Mac, that will surely improve with subsequent OS updates.

I’ve found an excellent Bluetooth keyboard, and I’ve added a 8-in-1 hub to my travel kit. That hub connects SD cards, hard drives, USB drives, HDMI cables and – if I wanted – Ethernet connections, all while passing through power to the USB-C socket on the iPad Pro.

The proliferation of image processing apps available for the iPad, along with Office 365 apps, persuaded me to replace my aging 13” MacBook Pro and 9.7” iPad Pro with a 12.9” iPad Pro – as soon as iPadOS was announced. That proved a good choice.

iPadOS has many other upgrades from iOS 13 that make the iPad Pro such a pleasure to use. I’ve just “focused” on Sony ARW advantages here.

I have no intention to respond to any “yeah but Android and Surface had all that first” comments from those who don’t like Apple. Apple phone and Genius Bar support, its aggressive cleansing of its App Store, resistance to viruses and malware, and smooth integration across my iMac, iPhone 11 Pro Max and iPad Pro persuade me of the wisdom of switching to Apple from Windows almost a decade ago. If you’re happy with alternatives, good for you. My hardware is for business as well as pleasure, and so, access to great Apple support justifies the cost to me.

I’m using the latest iPadPro 11 inch with 13.1.2. I’m shooting raw (slot 1) and jpg (slot 2) using my A7r iv. I have the following observations / questions:

1. I’m still seeing the raw Arw files as blanks in photos. Can’t find an updated list of supported cameras. I don’t believe that Apple in supporting the iv yet?

2. Plugging a usb-c cable between my A7r iv and this iPad I can download the raw files only. Works great for backup. It’s faster though to take the sdxc 1 card out of the camera and use the card reader. If I use the card reader then I can’t later download the jpgs for some reason. It says that all files have been downloaded even though that’s not true.

3. To get the jpgs I have to plug in a sdxc card reader to my iPad and put the card from slot 2 into the reader and then I can transfer the jpgs.

4. I can see and edit full res fine jpgs in photos. And the editing has more options than iOS 12.

And where is the full PS that was promised for this year on this iPadPro?

Don’t get me wrong I love this technology and where apple is going.

If you are seeing ARW files as blanks, I think you have the wrong iOS. IOS 13.1.2 is for iPhones - it’s not iPadOS. IPadOS was just launched on September 24, and doesn’t automatically come into your iPad. I called Apple support when iPadOS didn’t come up as an automatic update. They said the fastest way to get it was to do a backup/update through iTunes. And sure enough, that put iPadOS on my iPad Pro.

Ability to see ARW as well as JPG was an “unannounced” feature of iPadOS. Here is what you see with iPadOS:

Hopefully you can see in this frame grab (done now on the iPad Pro iPadOS with command-shift-4, like a Mac)  there are 2 files with the same name of each frame - only one is say, 24 MB and one is 11 MB. Also, if you click on the bigger, it fills the screen on the first click. That’s the raw file.

These were images copied from a SD card onto a hard card, but the same visualization under iPadOS shows on images in a card reader. You of course know that if you tap on one of the small images, it fills the screen, and you can elect to mark it for download to your camera roll or via the File app to the hard drive.

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Re: New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

sunny16day wrote:

W3PYF wrote:

The new iPadOS makes the iPad Pro tablets a quantum leap forward in portable image processing – especially Sony ARW files.

The iPad Pro now accepts hard drives directly – and when those hard drives are formatted as OSX journaled, very competitive with the MacBook Pro in both speed of attachment and access.

iPadOS now reads and displays Sony ARW files as well as jpegs. And even neater, when you click on one, you can load it directly into Lightroom (or almost any other imaging processing app you want) for immediate processing. And you can save the processed file anywhere you wish, including the cloud (although it also loads it to the Adobe cloud if you use it).

It now accepts a Bluetooth mouse or trackpad. While the functionality reminds me of the single-button mouse connected to a 1984 Mac, that will surely improve with subsequent OS updates.

I’ve found an excellent Bluetooth keyboard, and I’ve added a 8-in-1 hub to my travel kit. That hub connects SD cards, hard drives, USB drives, HDMI cables and – if I wanted – Ethernet connections, all while passing through power to the USB-C socket on the iPad Pro.

The proliferation of image processing apps available for the iPad, along with Office 365 apps, persuaded me to replace my aging 13” MacBook Pro and 9.7” iPad Pro with a 12.9” iPad Pro – as soon as iPadOS was announced. That proved a good choice.

iPadOS has many other upgrades from iOS 13 that make the iPad Pro such a pleasure to use. I’ve just “focused” on Sony ARW advantages here.

I have no intention to respond to any “yeah but Android and Surface had all that first” comments from those who don’t like Apple. Apple phone and Genius Bar support, its aggressive cleansing of its App Store, resistance to viruses and malware, and smooth integration across my iMac, iPhone 11 Pro Max and iPad Pro persuade me of the wisdom of switching to Apple from Windows almost a decade ago. If you’re happy with alternatives, good for you. My hardware is for business as well as pleasure, and so, access to great Apple support justifies the cost to me.

Hello,

I am not in the "apple" is worse or apple is better than microsoft. I use whatever is best for the task e.g. my servers run on linux (and certain linux distros are better than others, but I won't get into that). Most of my work computers run windows. People who make blanket statements about X or Y usually don't know much about X or Y so I can understand you don't want to get into those kind of debates.

When I bought my phone, apple phones didn't offer USB 3.1. They've had ports which theoretically support those speeds but when you test them, they operated at USB 2 speeds. I'm not sure if this is still the case (it was last year) but I imagine it is.

If I want to back up photographs to an SSD, I use an android phone and then I plug in a USB hub into its port. I put a memory card reader in one socket and an SD card in the other. There's no reason to take something as big as a tablet to do this.

I am OCD about image backup. Everything that passes through my iPad, iPhone or iMac gets stored in 3 cloud services - Google Photos, Prime Photos and iCloud - a 4th, Adobe, for images processed in Lightroom. Hard drives are otherwise my 4th. And after I return from major 1-4 week annual trips, or major business shoots,  I store all shot cards as backup, too - too cheap to recycle.

I think you should look after data regardless of whether you're a hobbyist or pro. Most people can save themselves some money and use their phone.

I agree. But my iPad Pro isn’t a backup device - it’s an image processing device.

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Re: New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

LarryRC wrote:

sunny16day wrote:

W3PYF wrote:

The new iPadOS makes the iPad Pro tablets a quantum leap forward in portable image processing – especially Sony ARW files.

The iPad Pro now accepts hard drives directly – and when those hard drives are formatted as OSX journaled, very competitive with the MacBook Pro in both speed of attachment and access.

iPadOS now reads and displays Sony ARW files as well as jpegs. And even neater, when you click on one, you can load it directly into Lightroom (or almost any other imaging processing app you want) for immediate processing. And you can save the processed file anywhere you wish, including the cloud (although it also loads it to the Adobe cloud if you use it).

It now accepts a Bluetooth mouse or trackpad. While the functionality reminds me of the single-button mouse connected to a 1984 Mac, that will surely improve with subsequent OS updates.

I’ve found an excellent Bluetooth keyboard, and I’ve added a 8-in-1 hub to my travel kit. That hub connects SD cards, hard drives, USB drives, HDMI cables and – if I wanted – Ethernet connections, all while passing through power to the USB-C socket on the iPad Pro.

The proliferation of image processing apps available for the iPad, along with Office 365 apps, persuaded me to replace my aging 13” MacBook Pro and 9.7” iPad Pro with a 12.9” iPad Pro – as soon as iPadOS was announced. That proved a good choice.

iPadOS has many other upgrades from iOS 13 that make the iPad Pro such a pleasure to use. I’ve just “focused” on Sony ARW advantages here.

I have no intention to respond to any “yeah but Android and Surface had all that first” comments from those who don’t like Apple. Apple phone and Genius Bar support, its aggressive cleansing of its App Store, resistance to viruses and malware, and smooth integration across my iMac, iPhone 11 Pro Max and iPad Pro persuade me of the wisdom of switching to Apple from Windows almost a decade ago. If you’re happy with alternatives, good for you. My hardware is for business as well as pleasure, and so, access to great Apple support justifies the cost to me.

Hello,

I am not in the "apple" is worse or apple is better than microsoft. I use whatever is best for the task e.g. my servers run on linux (and certain linux distros are better than others, but I won't get into that). Most of my work computers run windows. People who make blanket statements about X or Y usually don't know much about X or Y so I can understand you don't want to get into those kind of debates.

When I bought my phone, apple phones didn't offer USB 3.1. They've had ports which theoretically support those speeds but when you test them, they operated at USB 2 speeds. I'm not sure if this is still the case (it was last year) but I imagine it is.

If I want to back up photographs to an SSD, I use an android phone and then I plug in a USB hub into its port. I put a memory card reader in one socket and an SD card in the other. There's no reason to take something as big as a tablet to do this.

I think you should look after data regardless of whether you're a hobbyist or pro. Most people can save themselves some money and use their phone.

I agree there is no mileage in bashing. I took my camera and iPadPro to bhphoto right after the upgrade as I was in nyc. I asked for help with the questions I put in the second post here in this tread. They suggested the sdxc usb-c card reader which got me going but the other questions are real if anyone has any insight? And I do love my Apple products! Thanks. Larry

ps I’m from Portland OR. Going to BHPhoto was like going to an old Best Buy on steroids. Huge multi floor space, older technology and customers everywhere. I commented and they said “our online help is better than in store, 85% of our business in online”.

I think most of your issues are iPadOS-curable. Get that and you’ll be able to see the RAW and JPG files equally. Seriously - go back to my original post and check out the 8-in-1 hub. It’s terrific. Belt-and-suspenders guy that I am, I also carry anextra SD reader — and an SD to lightning reader for my iPhone. When you’re out in Godknowswhereland for weeks, I don’t want to be searching for input devices...

As for PS - Photoshop for iPad - only Adobe can answer that. I rarely use Photoshop on my iMac, so I don’t miss it. I do use Adobe Fix, though.

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LarryRC Contributing Member • Posts: 722
Re: New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

W3PYF wrote:

LarryRC wrote:

W3PYF wrote:

The new iPadOS makes the iPad Pro tablets a quantum leap forward in portable image processing – especially Sony ARW files.

The iPad Pro now accepts hard drives directly – and when those hard drives are formatted as OSX journaled, very competitive with the MacBook Pro in both speed of attachment and access.

iPadOS now reads and displays Sony ARW files as well as jpegs. And even neater, when you click on one, you can load it directly into Lightroom (or almost any other imaging processing app you want) for immediate processing. And you can save the processed file anywhere you wish, including the cloud (although it also loads it to the Adobe cloud if you use it).

It now accepts a Bluetooth mouse or trackpad. While the functionality reminds me of the single-button mouse connected to a 1984 Mac, that will surely improve with subsequent OS updates.

I’ve found an excellent Bluetooth keyboard, and I’ve added a 8-in-1 hub to my travel kit. That hub connects SD cards, hard drives, USB drives, HDMI cables and – if I wanted – Ethernet connections, all while passing through power to the USB-C socket on the iPad Pro.

The proliferation of image processing apps available for the iPad, along with Office 365 apps, persuaded me to replace my aging 13” MacBook Pro and 9.7” iPad Pro with a 12.9” iPad Pro – as soon as iPadOS was announced. That proved a good choice.

iPadOS has many other upgrades from iOS 13 that make the iPad Pro such a pleasure to use. I’ve just “focused” on Sony ARW advantages here.

I have no intention to respond to any “yeah but Android and Surface had all that first” comments from those who don’t like Apple. Apple phone and Genius Bar support, its aggressive cleansing of its App Store, resistance to viruses and malware, and smooth integration across my iMac, iPhone 11 Pro Max and iPad Pro persuade me of the wisdom of switching to Apple from Windows almost a decade ago. If you’re happy with alternatives, good for you. My hardware is for business as well as pleasure, and so, access to great Apple support justifies the cost to me.

I’m using the latest iPadPro 11 inch with 13.1.2. I’m shooting raw (slot 1) and jpg (slot 2) using my A7r iv. I have the following observations / questions:

1. I’m still seeing the raw Arw files as blanks in photos. Can’t find an updated list of supported cameras. I don’t believe that Apple in supporting the iv yet?

2. Plugging a usb-c cable between my A7r iv and this iPad I can download the raw files only. Works great for backup. It’s faster though to take the sdxc 1 card out of the camera and use the card reader. If I use the card reader then I can’t later download the jpgs for some reason. It says that all files have been downloaded even though that’s not true.

3. To get the jpgs I have to plug in a sdxc card reader to my iPad and put the card from slot 2 into the reader and then I can transfer the jpgs.

4. I can see and edit full res fine jpgs in photos. And the editing has more options than iOS 12.

And where is the full PS that was promised for this year on this iPadPro?

Don’t get me wrong I love this technology and where apple is going.

If you are seeing ARW files as blanks, I think you have the wrong iOS. IOS 13.1.2 is for iPhones - it’s not iPadOS. IPadOS was just launched on September 24, and doesn’t automatically come into your iPad. I called Apple support when iPadOS didn’t come up as an automatic update. They said the fastest way to get it was to do a backup/update through iTunes. And sure enough, that put iPadOS on my iPad Pro.

Ability to see ARW as well as JPG was an “unannounced” feature of iPadOS. Here is what you see with iPadOS:

Hopefully you can see in this frame grab (done now on the iPad Pro iPadOS with command-shift-4, like a Mac) there are 2 files with the same name of each frame - only one is say, 24 MB and one is 11 MB. Also, if you click on the bigger, it fills the screen on the first click. That’s the raw file.

These were images copied from a SD card onto a hard card, but the same visualization under iPadOS shows on images in a card reader. You of course know that if you tap on one of the small images, it fills the screen, and you can elect to mark it for download to your camera roll or via the File app to the hard drive.

Thanks for taking the time to reply. It was helpful to remember that I can now go to iCloud Drive and see the files.

1. Please check the software version you are running on your iPad. I am running the latest iPad os released 9/24.  iPhone iOS won’t run on an iPad.

2. iOS 12 supported jpg and raw also here are the cameras that it supported:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208967

i have been opening jpg and arw files for my A7r iii pre iPad Pro 11.  Apple did add more editing features.

I can find no update to that list for iPad os after 9/24.  My A7r iii files show just fine while the A7r iv aren’t opened by Apple yet.  The raw files are different for each camera.  What Sony camera are you using?  Adobe took several weeks after the A7r iv was announced before they opened the iv files.  This happens with every new camera from all manufacturers even when the sensor is the same.

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LarryRC Contributing Member • Posts: 722
Re: New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

W3PYF wrote:

sunny16day wrote:

W3PYF wrote:

The new iPadOS makes the iPad Pro tablets a quantum leap forward in portable image processing – especially Sony ARW files.

The iPad Pro now accepts hard drives directly – and when those hard drives are formatted as OSX journaled, very competitive with the MacBook Pro in both speed of attachment and access.

iPadOS now reads and displays Sony ARW files as well as jpegs. And even neater, when you click on one, you can load it directly into Lightroom (or almost any other imaging processing app you want) for immediate processing. And you can save the processed file anywhere you wish, including the cloud (although it also loads it to the Adobe cloud if you use it).

It now accepts a Bluetooth mouse or trackpad. While the functionality reminds me of the single-button mouse connected to a 1984 Mac, that will surely improve with subsequent OS updates.

I’ve found an excellent Bluetooth keyboard, and I’ve added a 8-in-1 hub to my travel kit. That hub connects SD cards, hard drives, USB drives, HDMI cables and – if I wanted – Ethernet connections, all while passing through power to the USB-C socket on the iPad Pro.

The proliferation of image processing apps available for the iPad, along with Office 365 apps, persuaded me to replace my aging 13” MacBook Pro and 9.7” iPad Pro with a 12.9” iPad Pro – as soon as iPadOS was announced. That proved a good choice.

iPadOS has many other upgrades from iOS 13 that make the iPad Pro such a pleasure to use. I’ve just “focused” on Sony ARW advantages here.

I have no intention to respond to any “yeah but Android and Surface had all that first” comments from those who don’t like Apple. Apple phone and Genius Bar support, its aggressive cleansing of its App Store, resistance to viruses and malware, and smooth integration across my iMac, iPhone 11 Pro Max and iPad Pro persuade me of the wisdom of switching to Apple from Windows almost a decade ago. If you’re happy with alternatives, good for you. My hardware is for business as well as pleasure, and so, access to great Apple support justifies the cost to me.

Hello,

I am not in the "apple" is worse or apple is better than microsoft. I use whatever is best for the task e.g. my servers run on linux (and certain linux distros are better than others, but I won't get into that). Most of my work computers run windows. People who make blanket statements about X or Y usually don't know much about X or Y so I can understand you don't want to get into those kind of debates.

When I bought my phone, apple phones didn't offer USB 3.1. They've had ports which theoretically support those speeds but when you test them, they operated at USB 2 speeds. I'm not sure if this is still the case (it was last year) but I imagine it is.

If I want to back up photographs to an SSD, I use an android phone and then I plug in a USB hub into its port. I put a memory card reader in one socket and an SD card in the other. There's no reason to take something as big as a tablet to do this.

I am OCD about image backup. Everything that passes through my iPad, iPhone or iMac gets stored in 3 cloud services - Google Photos, Prime Photos and iCloud - a 4th, Adobe, for images processed in Lightroom. Hard drives are otherwise my 4th. And after I return from major 1-4 week annual trips, or major business shoots, I store all shot cards as backup, too - too cheap to recycle.

I think you should look after data regardless of whether you're a hobbyist or pro. Most people can save themselves some money and use their phone.

I agree. But my iPad Pro isn’t a backup device - it’s an image processing device.

I’m using it for both while in the field or out of country.  Saves needing to lug along a hard drive.  I have a 512 gb iPad Pro 11.

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Re: New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

I wasn't aware of this - thank you for raising it.

I'm wary, however, because LightRoom on iPad puts my images on Adobe servers, doesn't it? I'd far rather keep my images on my own machine, and only upload my finished work.

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a9 to Ipad

Can someone explain how to  transfer photo from camera to a portable SSD, USB drive or to the Ipad for backup and editing?

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Re: a9 to Ipad

Laslo Varadi wrote:

Can someone explain how to transfer photo from camera to a portable SSD, USB drive or to the Ipad for backup and editing?

What camera, which iPad and which iOS?  For many Sony cameras just connect the camera to the iPad, launch photos, wait for import to show, click import, select your options and this will get you started.

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Re: a9 to Ipad

LarryRC wrote:

Laslo Varadi wrote:

Can someone explain how to transfer photo from camera to a portable SSD, USB drive or to the Ipad for backup and editing?

What camera, which iPad and which iOS? For many Sony cameras just connect the camera to the iPad, launch photos, wait for import to show, click import, select your options and this will get you started.

Sony A9, ipad pro 11" running ipad os 13.1, samsung T5 SSD.

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LarryRC Contributing Member • Posts: 722
Re: a9 to Ipad

Laslo Varadi wrote:

LarryRC wrote:

Laslo Varadi wrote:

Can someone explain how to transfer photo from camera to a portable SSD, USB drive or to the Ipad for backup and editing?

What camera, which iPad and which iOS? For many Sony cameras just connect the camera to the iPad, launch photos, wait for import to show, click import, select your options and this will get you started.

Sony A9, ipad pro 11" running ipad os 13.1, samsung T5 SSD.

plug the a9 into the pad and launch photos and you should at least be able to download and edit the raw files.  You may need an Apple sdxc iPad Pro usb-c adapter to load the jpgs unto the iPad.  Once your photos are in photos, select one and hit edit and that will get you started.

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LarryRC Contributing Member • Posts: 722
Re: a9 to Ipad

LarryRC wrote:

Laslo Varadi wrote:

LarryRC wrote:

Laslo Varadi wrote:

Can someone explain how to transfer photo from camera to a portable SSD, USB drive or to the Ipad for backup and editing?

What camera, which iPad and which iOS? For many Sony cameras just connect the camera to the iPad, launch photos, wait for import to show, click import, select your options and this will get you started.

Sony A9, ipad pro 11" running ipad os 13.1, samsung T5 SSD.

plug the a9 into the pad and launch photos and you should at least be able to download and edit the raw files. You may need an Apple sdxc iPad Pro usb-c adapter to load the jpgs unto the iPad. Once your photos are in photos, select one and hit edit and that will get you started.

I forgot to add that when plugging you a9 into the iPad if you don’t see a connection screen on your camera go to the network menu  find pc remote CNET method, select USB.  There are wireless ways of doing this but this will get you started.

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Re: New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

LarryRC wrote:

W3PYF wrote:

LarryRC wrote:

W3PYF wrote:

The new iPadOS makes the iPad Pro tablets a quantum leap forward in portable image processing – especially Sony ARW files.

The iPad Pro now accepts hard drives directly – and when those hard drives are formatted as OSX journaled, very competitive with the MacBook Pro in both speed of attachment and access.

iPadOS now reads and displays Sony ARW files as well as jpegs. And even neater, when you click on one, you can load it directly into Lightroom (or almost any other imaging processing app you want) for immediate processing. And you can save the processed file anywhere you wish, including the cloud (although it also loads it to the Adobe cloud if you use it).

It now accepts a Bluetooth mouse or trackpad. While the functionality reminds me of the single-button mouse connected to a 1984 Mac, that will surely improve with subsequent OS updates.

I’ve found an excellent Bluetooth keyboard, and I’ve added a 8-in-1 hub to my travel kit. That hub connects SD cards, hard drives, USB drives, HDMI cables and – if I wanted – Ethernet connections, all while passing through power to the USB-C socket on the iPad Pro.

The proliferation of image processing apps available for the iPad, along with Office 365 apps, persuaded me to replace my aging 13” MacBook Pro and 9.7” iPad Pro with a 12.9” iPad Pro – as soon as iPadOS was announced. That proved a good choice.

iPadOS has many other upgrades from iOS 13 that make the iPad Pro such a pleasure to use. I’ve just “focused” on Sony ARW advantages here.

I have no intention to respond to any “yeah but Android and Surface had all that first” comments from those who don’t like Apple. Apple phone and Genius Bar support, its aggressive cleansing of its App Store, resistance to viruses and malware, and smooth integration across my iMac, iPhone 11 Pro Max and iPad Pro persuade me of the wisdom of switching to Apple from Windows almost a decade ago. If you’re happy with alternatives, good for you. My hardware is for business as well as pleasure, and so, access to great Apple support justifies the cost to me.

I’m using the latest iPadPro 11 inch with 13.1.2. I’m shooting raw (slot 1) and jpg (slot 2) using my A7r iv. I have the following observations / questions:

1. I’m still seeing the raw Arw files as blanks in photos. Can’t find an updated list of supported cameras. I don’t believe that Apple in supporting the iv yet?

2. Plugging a usb-c cable between my A7r iv and this iPad I can download the raw files only. Works great for backup. It’s faster though to take the sdxc 1 card out of the camera and use the card reader. If I use the card reader then I can’t later download the jpgs for some reason. It says that all files have been downloaded even though that’s not true.

3. To get the jpgs I have to plug in a sdxc card reader to my iPad and put the card from slot 2 into the reader and then I can transfer the jpgs.

4. I can see and edit full res fine jpgs in photos. And the editing has more options than iOS 12.

And where is the full PS that was promised for this year on this iPadPro?

Don’t get me wrong I love this technology and where apple is going.

If you are seeing ARW files as blanks, I think you have the wrong iOS. IOS 13.1.2 is for iPhones - it’s not iPadOS. IPadOS was just launched on September 24, and doesn’t automatically come into your iPad. I called Apple support when iPadOS didn’t come up as an automatic update. They said the fastest way to get it was to do a backup/update through iTunes. And sure enough, that put iPadOS on my iPad Pro.

Ability to see ARW as well as JPG was an “unannounced” feature of iPadOS. Here is what you see with iPadOS:

Hopefully you can see in this frame grab (done now on the iPad Pro iPadOS with command-shift-4, like a Mac) there are 2 files with the same name of each frame - only one is say, 24 MB and one is 11 MB. Also, if you click on the bigger, it fills the screen on the first click. That’s the raw file.

These were images copied from a SD card onto a hard card, but the same visualization under iPadOS shows on images in a card reader. You of course know that if you tap on one of the small images, it fills the screen, and you can elect to mark it for download to your camera roll or via the File app to the hard drive.

Thanks for taking the time to reply. It was helpful to remember that I can now go to iCloud Drive and see the files.

1. Please check the software version you are running on your iPad. I am running the latest iPad os released 9/24. iPhone iOS won’t run on an iPad.

2. iOS 12 supported jpg and raw also here are the cameras that it supported:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208967

i have been opening jpg and arw files for my A7r iii pre iPad Pro 11. Apple did add more editing features.

I can find no update to that list for iPad os after 9/24. My A7r iii files show just fine while the A7r iv aren’t opened by Apple yet. The raw files are different for each camera. What Sony camera are you using? Adobe took several weeks after the A7r iv was announced before they opened the iv files. This happens with every new camera from all manufacturers even when the sensor is the same.

Are you sure you are running iPadOS? If so, you should see this:

I am shooting an A7III.

Remember - there is iOS 13.1.2 for the iPad, released on 9/24, and iPadOS 13.1.2 released the same day. Are you SURE you have the iPadOS version?

You may be right - the issue may be Apple can’t read your ARW files.

And yes, Apple has enhanced the editing tools in the latest iOS - for both iPhone and iPad. The combination of the latest iOS and the iPhone 11 Pro Max is really wonderful. For the first time, I have a lot of confidence in using an iPhone as a serious camera.

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Robjwilli
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Re: New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

Hi Sunny16day,

I’m interested in how you are using your phone, to facilitate backups, would you be able to explain in more detail? Is the phone just acting as a gateway between the SD card reader and the SSD storage device?

Thanks, Rob

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Re: New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

W3PYF wrote:

I am shooting an A7III.

Remember - there is iOS 13.1.2 for the iPad, released on 9/24, and iPadOS 13.1.2 released the same day. Are you SURE you have the iPadOS version?

You may be right - the issue may be Apple can’t read your ARW files.

And yes, Apple has enhanced the editing tools in the latest iOS - for both iPhone and iPad. The combination of the latest iOS and the iPhone 11 Pro Max is really wonderful. For the first time, I have a lot of confidence in using an iPhone as a serious camera.

The update from iOS 12.x to iPad OS 13.x on iPad is automatic and goes through exactly the same process as older updates.

Currently iPad OS 13.x cannot read A7RIV RAW files - the same with Mac OS Catlina. No support yet.

There is another limitation - current version of Lightroom Mobile for iPad cannot import files directly from attached storage or camera. Have to move them via iPad's storage.

Br, Pawel.

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LarryRC Contributing Member • Posts: 722
Re: New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

W3PYF wrote:

LarryRC wrote:

W3PYF wrote:

LarryRC wrote:

W3PYF wrote:

The new iPadOS makes the iPad Pro tablets a quantum leap forward in portable image processing – especially Sony ARW files.

The iPad Pro now accepts hard drives directly – and when those hard drives are formatted as OSX journaled, very competitive with the MacBook Pro in both speed of attachment and access.

iPadOS now reads and displays Sony ARW files as well as jpegs. And even neater, when you click on one, you can load it directly into Lightroom (or almost any other imaging processing app you want) for immediate processing. And you can save the processed file anywhere you wish, including the cloud (although it also loads it to the Adobe cloud if you use it).

It now accepts a Bluetooth mouse or trackpad. While the functionality reminds me of the single-button mouse connected to a 1984 Mac, that will surely improve with subsequent OS updates.

I’ve found an excellent Bluetooth keyboard, and I’ve added a 8-in-1 hub to my travel kit. That hub connects SD cards, hard drives, USB drives, HDMI cables and – if I wanted – Ethernet connections, all while passing through power to the USB-C socket on the iPad Pro.

The proliferation of image processing apps available for the iPad, along with Office 365 apps, persuaded me to replace my aging 13” MacBook Pro and 9.7” iPad Pro with a 12.9” iPad Pro – as soon as iPadOS was announced. That proved a good choice.

iPadOS has many other upgrades from iOS 13 that make the iPad Pro such a pleasure to use. I’ve just “focused” on Sony ARW advantages here.

I have no intention to respond to any “yeah but Android and Surface had all that first” comments from those who don’t like Apple. Apple phone and Genius Bar support, its aggressive cleansing of its App Store, resistance to viruses and malware, and smooth integration across my iMac, iPhone 11 Pro Max and iPad Pro persuade me of the wisdom of switching to Apple from Windows almost a decade ago. If you’re happy with alternatives, good for you. My hardware is for business as well as pleasure, and so, access to great Apple support justifies the cost to me.

I’m using the latest iPadPro 11 inch with 13.1.2. I’m shooting raw (slot 1) and jpg (slot 2) using my A7r iv. I have the following observations / questions:

1. I’m still seeing the raw Arw files as blanks in photos. Can’t find an updated list of supported cameras. I don’t believe that Apple in supporting the iv yet?

2. Plugging a usb-c cable between my A7r iv and this iPad I can download the raw files only. Works great for backup. It’s faster though to take the sdxc 1 card out of the camera and use the card reader. If I use the card reader then I can’t later download the jpgs for some reason. It says that all files have been downloaded even though that’s not true.

3. To get the jpgs I have to plug in a sdxc card reader to my iPad and put the card from slot 2 into the reader and then I can transfer the jpgs.

4. I can see and edit full res fine jpgs in photos. And the editing has more options than iOS 12.

And where is the full PS that was promised for this year on this iPadPro?

Don’t get me wrong I love this technology and where apple is going.

If you are seeing ARW files as blanks, I think you have the wrong iOS. IOS 13.1.2 is for iPhones - it’s not iPadOS. IPadOS was just launched on September 24, and doesn’t automatically come into your iPad. I called Apple support when iPadOS didn’t come up as an automatic update. They said the fastest way to get it was to do a backup/update through iTunes. And sure enough, that put iPadOS on my iPad Pro.

Ability to see ARW as well as JPG was an “unannounced” feature of iPadOS. Here is what you see with iPadOS:

Hopefully you can see in this frame grab (done now on the iPad Pro iPadOS with command-shift-4, like a Mac) there are 2 files with the same name of each frame - only one is say, 24 MB and one is 11 MB. Also, if you click on the bigger, it fills the screen on the first click. That’s the raw file.

These were images copied from a SD card onto a hard card, but the same visualization under iPadOS shows on images in a card reader. You of course know that if you tap on one of the small images, it fills the screen, and you can elect to mark it for download to your camera roll or via the File app to the hard drive.

Thanks for taking the time to reply. It was helpful to remember that I can now go to iCloud Drive and see the files.

1. Please check the software version you are running on your iPad. I am running the latest iPad os released 9/24. iPhone iOS won’t run on an iPad.

2. iOS 12 supported jpg and raw also here are the cameras that it supported:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208967

i have been opening jpg and arw files for my A7r iii pre iPad Pro 11. Apple did add more editing features.

I can find no update to that list for iPad os after 9/24. My A7r iii files show just fine while the A7r iv aren’t opened by Apple yet. The raw files are different for each camera. What Sony camera are you using? Adobe took several weeks after the A7r iv was announced before they opened the iv files. This happens with every new camera from all manufacturers even when the sensor is the same.

Are you sure you are running iPadOS? If so, you should see this:

I am shooting an A7III.

Remember - there is iOS 13.1.2 for the iPad, released on 9/24, and iPadOS 13.1.2 released the same day. Are you SURE you have the iPadOS version?

You may be right - the issue may be Apple can’t read your ARW files.

And yes, Apple has enhanced the editing tools in the latest iOS - for both iPhone and iPad. The combination of the latest iOS and the iPhone 11 Pro Max is really wonderful. For the first time, I have a lot of confidence in using an iPhone as a serious camera.

Here’s my screen:

I’m also seeing the slide over and the new iPad os screen.  according to Apple this is it 13.1.2 there is no other iOS (except older) for new iPads.  iPad os is a marketing name for what would have been called simply iOS 13.

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W3PYF
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Re: New iPadOS makes iPad Pro a Sony image-processing beast for travel

SigZero wrote:

W3PYF wrote:

I am shooting an A7III.

Remember - there is iOS 13.1.2 for the iPad, released on 9/24, and iPadOS 13.1.2 released the same day. Are you SURE you have the iPadOS version?

You may be right - the issue may be Apple can’t read your ARW files.

And yes, Apple has enhanced the editing tools in the latest iOS - for both iPhone and iPad. The combination of the latest iOS and the iPhone 11 Pro Max is really wonderful. For the first time, I have a lot of confidence in using an iPhone as a serious camera.

The update from iOS 12.x to iPad OS 13.x on iPad is automatic and goes through exactly the same process as older updates.

Currently iPad OS 13.x cannot read A7RIV RAW files - the same with Mac OS Catlina. No support yet.

There is another limitation - current version of Lightroom Mobile for iPad cannot import files directly from attached storage or camera. Have to move them via iPad's storage.

Br, Pawel.

"There is another limitation - current version of Lightroom Mobile for iPad cannot import files directly from attached storage or camera. Have to move them via iPad's storage."

Not true at all with iPadOS. iPadOS loads them directly into Lightroom Mobile from an attached hard drive. All you do is click on the ARW (or JPG) file on your hard drive that you see in the Files app that you want to load into Lightroom Mobile, click the upward arrow-box at upper right of the screen, and select LR Mobile. It then offers you the choice "next time you open Lightroom" or "open Lightroom now."

I swear you guys have a different iPadOS than I do.

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