There's more than one reference model design

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bob5050 Senior Member • Posts: 2,027
There's more than one reference model design
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If you look closely at the back of the camera in the various images now around, you'll see that there are clear differences between the screen surround on different instances. For example, here

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63119958

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63121603

and

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63122473?image=0

Most obviously evident, perhaps, between the screen and sensor below the OVF. On the first the screen has a bezel all the way around it, on the latter it doesn't.

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Re: There's more than one reference model design
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The lack of a bezel might be an illusion based on the angle

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Re: There's more than one reference model design

MightyMike wrote:

The lack of a bezel might be an illusion based on the angle

Don't think so. Look at this one

https://pentaxrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/flagship-Pentax-K-DSLR-APS-C-camera-3.jpg

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MikeyBugs95
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It does have a bezel. The lighting and angle of the pictures in the second and third links just make it difficult to see. They no doubt have more than one reference model but I think these are probably all the same one.
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MightyMike Forum Pro • Posts: 40,695
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bob5050 wrote:

MightyMike wrote:

The lack of a bezel might be an illusion based on the angle

Don't think so. Look at this one

https://pentaxrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/flagship-Pentax-K-DSLR-APS-C-camera-3.jpg

bob5050

Enhance the image, the bezel is there on the right side

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asahi man Senior Member • Posts: 1,013
Re: There's more than one reference model design
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This is the same body in every picture.

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bob5050 wrote:

If you look closely at the back of the camera in the various images now around, you'll see that there are clear differences between the screen surround on different instances. For example, here

I don't see any differences in these pics. Just different viewing angles.

The body design is a mix of the K3 and KP, from what I can see.

But it appears to be the same body throughout.

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It's the same body as Asahi Man confirms it.

The indent is probably there so that you don't accidentally touch the touch-screen when changing settings with the buttons. The eye proximiy sensor is probably there so that you don't change the settings with your nose touching the touch-screen.

I've heard about GUI changes too, which would be necessary for a better touch-screen interface.

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I've heard about GUI changes too, which would be necessary for a better touch-screen interface.

maybe UI, not GUI?

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I think GUI fits. GUI = Graphical User Interface. GUI is just a subset of UI. You interact with your smart phone and the touchscreen of Canon cameras through a GUI.
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asahi man wrote:

This is the same body in every picture.

Thank goodness that IR release port is on the back side of it!

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ogl wrote:

I've heard about GUI changes too, which would be necessary for a better touch-screen interface.

maybe UI, not GUI?

No, I do mean GUI, refering menu system and its graphics.

The GRiii doesn't have drastically changed menus, and some reviews pointed this out.

Changing those would mean various sliders, touch to focus, swipe to see the next one, pinch to zoom out, un-pinch to zoom in, etc. And menu items should have a finger-friendly size, so one doesn't accidentally select the above or below item.

I'm also guessing that all this is firmware changeable, so we might get an early glimpse form a GRiii FW upgrade,

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OP bob5050 Senior Member • Posts: 2,027
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asahi man wrote:

This is the same body in every picture.

Spent some time this morning enlarging and poring over the various views. Weird what the light does, but I'll concede the point. Just one back design being shown.

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Re: There's more than one reference model design
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bob5050 wrote:

If you look closely at the back of the camera in the various images now around, you'll see that there are clear differences between the screen surround on different instances. For example, here

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63119958

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63121603

and

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63122473?image=0

Most obviously evident, perhaps, between the screen and sensor below the OVF. On the first the screen has a bezel all the way around it, on the latter it doesn't.

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This , by nature , isn't a reference standard camera ; it is APSC , the reference standard , from what has been produced so far has to be the 645 , everything else is inferior .

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PentUp Contributing Member • Posts: 529
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It could be a spring loaded (catch release) pop out screen with the initial trigger to open it accessed from the menu or that as yet unnamed button (in the top left corner)? The "finger divot" in the bottom right corner would be bigger once the spring catch is released. That would explain why (if it is an articulating screen) it is flush with the body.

But ... I guess we'll just have to wait and see?

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The only problem with this (well, the easiest problem at least) is that the plastic screen surround is too small. There's barely any surround there. It's entirely possible but highly unlikely.
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MikeyBugs95 wrote:

The only problem with this (well, the easiest problem at least) is that the plastic screen surround is too small. There's barely any surround there. It's entirely possible but highly unlikely.
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It's a pretty simple task of 3D modeling something. It's getting it to fit that takes most of the time!

I'm not sure that there needs to be much "surround" if it initially pops out straight back (and then pivots)?

Lots of things that have a press catch releaseare well flush with the main component... But I ain't no camera engineer, so I dunno? Any camera engineers in the house care to comment??

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Re: There's more than one reference model design

PentUp wrote:

MikeyBugs95 wrote:

The only problem with this (well, the easiest problem at least) is that the plastic screen surround is too small. There's barely any surround there. It's entirely possible but highly unlikely.
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It's a pretty simple task of 3D modeling something. It's getting it to fit that takes most of the time!

I'm not sure that there needs to be much "surround" if it initially pops out straight back (and then pivots)?

Lots of things that have a press catch releaseare well flush with the main component... But I ain't no camera engineer, so I dunno? Any camera engineers in the house care to comment??

I'm not either but I'm an engineering student. The surround are the small plastic bezels on the edges of the actual pop-out display. On the K-70 and KP the surround is pretty large. On the K-1 it's quite small but still there. There's none of that on this camera. That alone is reason for me to suspect that the display is fixed. I personally would prefer an articulating display like the K-1, even a fold-out display would be nice, but unless I don't think we'll be getting that this time around.
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