I find my new 200d sensor over exposes compared to my 100d sensor

The 100d /  sl1 sensor was great in blazing sunlight had a very film like highlight response, very gentle

I just got a 200d / sl2 and find that like the Nikon d5300 i had it overexposes too easily in sunlight

Conversely it is much better in the dark at high iso

But i prefer the 100d sensor

I've heard of people preferring older sensors- particularly the d700 and 5d 1 as they are nore 'film like'

Today I had my sl2 set up same way and same lens as my sl1 with highlight tone priority.  Even with minus 1 ev dialed in it exposed way to hot.

EOS GUY wrote:

The 100d / sl1 sensor was great in blazing sunlight had a very film like highlight response, very gentle

All digital sensors cutoff at saturation.  None have any sort of film-like roll-off.

You might be mistaking the in-camera raw conversion engine for a sensor effect.

I just got a 200d / sl2 and find that like the Nikon d5300 i had it overexposes too easily in sunlight

That sounds like a metering issue.  Are you using evaluative or something else?

I've heard of people preferring older sensors- particularly the d700 and 5d 1 as they are nore 'film like'

Those people are delusional.

Today I had my sl2 set up same way and same lens as my sl1 with highlight tone priority. Even with minus 1 ev dialed in it exposed way to hot.

Metering mode?

Lee Jay wrote:

EOS GUY wrote:

The 100d / sl1 sensor was great in blazing sunlight had a very film like highlight response, very gentle

All digital sensors cutoff at saturation. None have any sort of film-like roll-off.

You might be mistaking the in-camera raw conversion engine for a sensor effect.

I just got a 200d / sl2 and find that like the Nikon d5300 i had it overexposes too easily in sunlight

That sounds like a metering issue. Are you using evaluative or something else?

I've heard of people preferring older sensors- particularly the d700 and 5d 1 as they are nore 'film like'

Those people are delusional.

Today I had my sl2 set up same way and same lens as my sl1 with highlight tone priority. Even with minus 1 ev dialed in it exposed way to hot.

Metering mode?

Evaluative exact same shooting set up on voth cameras.  The d5300 did it too

I was so happy with the sl1 after the d5300 as i could open up raw files in acr without swathes of red clipping warning everywhere in summer shots

EOS GUY wrote:

Lee Jay wrote:

EOS GUY wrote:

The 100d / sl1 sensor was great in blazing sunlight had a very film like highlight response, very gentle

All digital sensors cutoff at saturation. None have any sort of film-like roll-off.

You might be mistaking the in-camera raw conversion engine for a sensor effect.

I just got a 200d / sl2 and find that like the Nikon d5300 i had it overexposes too easily in sunlight

That sounds like a metering issue. Are you using evaluative or something else?

I've heard of people preferring older sensors- particularly the d700 and 5d 1 as they are nore 'film like'

Those people are delusional.

Today I had my sl2 set up same way and same lens as my sl1 with highlight tone priority. Even with minus 1 ev dialed in it exposed way to hot.

Metering mode?

Evaluative exact same shooting set up on voth cameras. The d5300 did it too

I was so happy with the sl1 after the d5300 as i could open up raw files in acr without swathes of red clipping warning everywhere in summer shots

Those warnings are not necessarily clipped pixels in the raw data.  Move exposure down and see if they come back.

My suggestion is to avoid highlight tone priority and just underexpose a bit at a lower ISO.  HTP makes things worse, not better, if you shoot in raw.

Digirame wrote:

Try center weighted. I use the nine center AF points for my Canon T7i (800D) camera. I find the exposure fine for both the Canon T2i/T3i (550D/600D) cameras that I own and the Canon T7i (800D) camera. Actually, the Canon T7i (800D) is slightly better in that it's more consistent with the way I'm using it.

Its for street photography

Ill just refund and get another sl1 .

Always felt that camera was special

I suggest you shoot both cameras using Manual mode, with you setting the shutter speed, lens opening and ISO, both cameras the same. If the images are the  same for both cameras, then the problem is with the metering system. If the images display the same problem, then the sensor is the issue or something else is wrong with the SL2..

seri_art wrote:

I suggest you shoot both cameras using Manual mode, with you setting the shutter speed, lens opening and ISO, both cameras the same. If the images are the same for both cameras, then the problem is with the metering system. If the images display the same problem, then the sensor is the issue or something else is wrong with the SL2..

Yeah ive done that ive even stated i used same settings etc

Its just a difference between sensors I'm not saying it's broken.

I just prefer the colour and tonal response of the older sensor. I find all the modern sensors especially sony ones look 'too real' like video

I prefer the way the previous generation sensors look.   Less overly clean.

Ive been shooting street for over 20 years.

Is no big deal.

Digirame wrote:

Assuming the SL2 (200D) camera is similar to the Canon T7i (800D) camera (as far as the sensor is concerned etc.), it should be great for street photography.

Picture of people on a street, taken with a Canon T7i (800D) camera and a Canon 55-250mm STM "short" telephoto lens.

Picture of people not on a street using the same camera and lens.

I have hundreds more people pictures with that 24mp camera. I prefer to do minimal post processing, so it's important to me that I get the exposure right straight from the camera (as much as possible). I take so many pictures each week, that I really don't have much extra time to be on the computer for hours. See what we show each week on the Show Your Snaps thread.

Maybe there's something wrong with that particular camera. Have you checked the reviews? What review says that the Canon SL2 (200D) camera is worse than the Canon SL1 (100D) camera?

Lol no reviews say that.  Yeah looking at your two examples i see the same image quality I'm getting from mine

All im saying is its too 'clean' for me.

The sl1 for me had a special rendering.  Yeah post processing etc...    but i just prefer the files and the workflow i had.

If were doing landscape I'd prefer the sl2

For street i like the look of the sl1 files better.  Exposure was easier to post process straight outta the can too

At least ive compared the two and know for sure now

Cheers

Yeah could be im just SO used to a certain look in the raw file and then a very exact workflow in cs6 with nik colour effex pro 4 that seeing a slightly different look is making me panic

I DO like that the new camera has useable live view too.

Plus my first day out yesterday with the new camera was super bright late summer sun.

Ill slow the decision down a bit by doing some test shots tonight in my garden and my post process workflow and see how it works out.

The sl1 DOES have less definition but i like that as its slightly more 'blocky' in colour shots and gives me a less digital look. Some would call that lesser image quality but it is a look I like

Yeah I'll do test shots tonight and see if i can recreate as the live view and battery life are great features ...

I appreciate your time and effort.  thank you!!