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If there is no M5 II... again

Started Sep 19, 2019 | Polls
casey1823
casey1823 Senior Member • Posts: 1,855
Re: A few will be waiting for forever.
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trungtran wrote:

Quite a few loyal canon followers, willing to wait forever.

I consider myself a loyal Canon follower, but I also feel they have let many M5 users down. Not only with the current upgrade but not even mentioning any upcoming M lens.

I've boxed up all my M5 gear and either trading it in or selling some on eBay. I'm ready to try another brand. I think I'm going with the Fuji X-T3. Lot's of lens choice.

The grass may not be greener on the other side but I'm going to give it a try.

Casey

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MAC Forum Pro • Posts: 18,487
Re: A few will be waiting for forever.

casey1823 wrote:

trungtran wrote:

Quite a few loyal canon followers, willing to wait forever.

I consider myself a loyal Canon follower, but I also feel they have let many M5 users down. Not only with the current upgrade but not even mentioning any upcoming M lens.

I've boxed up all my M5 gear and either trading it in or selling some on eBay. I'm ready to try another brand. I think I'm going with the Fuji X-T3. Lot's of lens choice.

The grass may not be greener on the other side but I'm going to give it a try.

Casey

ut oh

u r going to spend a lot of money … 

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justmeMN Forum Pro • Posts: 10,705
Re: If there is no M5 II... again
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lumenite wrote: But what if there is no M5 series any more? If it is the case, what would you choose?

My guess is that Canon wants the current M5 Crowd to choose RP.

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justmeMN wrote:

lumenite wrote: But what if there is no M5 series any more? If it is the case, what would you choose?

My guess is that Canon wants the current M5 Crowd to choose RP.

… and lose out on the 32 f1.4 and 22 f2

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KEG
KEG Veteran Member • Posts: 4,909
Re: If there is no M5 II... again
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MAC wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

lumenite wrote: But what if there is no M5 series any more? If it is the case, what would you choose?

My guess is that Canon wants the current M5 Crowd to choose RP.

… and lose out on the 32 f1.4 and 22 f2

Thing is, RP isn’t even a upgrade to lowly M50 and where is the UWA in the R system?

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MAC Forum Pro • Posts: 18,487
Re: If there is no M5 II... again

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

lumenite wrote: But what if there is no M5 series any more? If it is the case, what would you choose?

My guess is that Canon wants the current M5 Crowd to choose RP.

… and lose out on the 32 f1.4 and 22 f2

Thing is, RP isn’t even a upgrade to lowly M50 and where is the UWA in the R system?

not sure why you say that

for low light it is - 1-1.5 stops better which is huge

I'll take the new 85 f1.2R on the RP any day over what the M50 can do

I'll take the new 15 -35 F2.8 R over what the M50 can do

glass and FF  rules for image quality

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Shifty159 Forum Member • Posts: 90
Re: If there is no M5 II... again

I’m waiting for the futur M5 mk2 even if I wait 2 years. I just got my M5 in January 2018. So I have time.

But I really want the almost the same design for the M5 mk 2 except the fully articulated screen like the M50. And of course the same LP-E17 battery.

And if the M5 mk 2 will not go out, I may buy the M6 mk 2 when my M5 will die.

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KEG
KEG Veteran Member • Posts: 4,909
Re: If there is no M5 II... again

MAC wrote:

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

lumenite wrote: But what if there is no M5 series any more? If it is the case, what would you choose?

My guess is that Canon wants the current M5 Crowd to choose RP.

… and lose out on the 32 f1.4 and 22 f2

Thing is, RP isn’t even a upgrade to lowly M50 and where is the UWA in the R system?

not sure why you say that

for low light it is - 1-1.5 stops better which is huge

I'll take the new 85 f1.2R on the RP any day over what the M50 can do

I'll take the new 15 -35 F2.8 R over what the M50 can do

glass and FF rules for image quality

Given the price of the RF glass, it could actually work out cheaper just to get Fuji GFX, you know

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KEG
KEG Veteran Member • Posts: 4,909
Re: If there is no M5 II... again

MAC wrote:

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

lumenite wrote: But what if there is no M5 series any more? If it is the case, what would you choose?

My guess is that Canon wants the current M5 Crowd to choose RP.

… and lose out on the 32 f1.4 and 22 f2

Thing is, RP isn’t even a upgrade to lowly M50 and where is the UWA in the R system?

not sure why you say that

for low light it is - 1-1.5 stops better which is huge

I'll take the new 85 f1.2R on the RP any day over what the M50 can do

I'll take the new 15 -35 F2.8 R over what the M50 can do

glass and FF rules for image quality

Except for 2 things:

1) M50 is better at ISO 100-400 due to better dynamic range

2) RF 15-35 isn’t available and could in fact be as real as for instance XF 33/1.0.

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MAC Forum Pro • Posts: 18,487
Re: If there is no M5 II... again

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

lumenite wrote: But what if there is no M5 series any more? If it is the case, what would you choose?

My guess is that Canon wants the current M5 Crowd to choose RP.

… and lose out on the 32 f1.4 and 22 f2

Thing is, RP isn’t even a upgrade to lowly M50 and where is the UWA in the R system?

not sure why you say that

for low light it is - 1-1.5 stops better which is huge

I'll take the new 85 f1.2R on the RP any day over what the M50 can do

I'll take the new 15 -35 F2.8 R over what the M50 can do

glass and FF rules for image quality

Except for 2 things:

1) M50 is better at ISO 100-400 due to better dynamic range

DR will come into play in less than 5% of shots

whereas, FF sharpness and low light noise play in a huge % of shots

2) RF 15-35 isn’t available and could in fact be as real as for instance XF 33/1.0.

coming soon

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1502499-REG/canon_3682c002_rf_15_35mm_f_2_8l_is.html

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KEG
KEG Veteran Member • Posts: 4,909
Re: If there is no M5 II... again

MAC wrote:

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

lumenite wrote: But what if there is no M5 series any more? If it is the case, what would you choose?

My guess is that Canon wants the current M5 Crowd to choose RP.

… and lose out on the 32 f1.4 and 22 f2

Thing is, RP isn’t even a upgrade to lowly M50 and where is the UWA in the R system?

not sure why you say that

for low light it is - 1-1.5 stops better which is huge

I'll take the new 85 f1.2R on the RP any day over what the M50 can do

I'll take the new 15 -35 F2.8 R over what the M50 can do

glass and FF rules for image quality

Except for 2 things:

1) M50 is better at ISO 100-400 due to better dynamic range

DR will come into play in less than 5% of shots

whereas, FF sharpness and low light noise play in a huge % of shots

2) RF 15-35 isn’t available and could in fact be as real as for instance XF 33/1.0.

coming soon

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1502499-REG/canon_3682c002_rf_15_35mm_f_2_8l_is.html

The problem with the R system is that it makes Apple and Fuji products look like absolute bargains in comparision.

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MAC Forum Pro • Posts: 18,487
Re: If there is no M5 II... again

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

lumenite wrote: But what if there is no M5 series any more? If it is the case, what would you choose?

My guess is that Canon wants the current M5 Crowd to choose RP.

… and lose out on the 32 f1.4 and 22 f2

Thing is, RP isn’t even a upgrade to lowly M50 and where is the UWA in the R system?

not sure why you say that

for low light it is - 1-1.5 stops better which is huge

I'll take the new 85 f1.2R on the RP any day over what the M50 can do

I'll take the new 15 -35 F2.8 R over what the M50 can do

glass and FF rules for image quality

Except for 2 things:

1) M50 is better at ISO 100-400 due to better dynamic range

DR will come into play in less than 5% of shots

whereas, FF sharpness and low light noise play in a huge % of shots

2) RF 15-35 isn’t available and could in fact be as real as for instance XF 33/1.0.

coming soon

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1502499-REG/canon_3682c002_rf_15_35mm_f_2_8l_is.html

The problem with the R system is that it makes Apple and Fuji products look like absolute bargains in comparision.

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KEG

the R with R lenses is expensive

the RP isn’t an IQ upgrade over my $895 6d

fuji for APSc is expensive

i looked today at the iso  100 samples between the 6d and the m6ii and I could definitely see more resolution in the m6ii.

With a few more f1.4 sharp native lenses the m will be something

Need to see canons commitment to m

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Miguel-C
Miguel-C Senior Member • Posts: 2,321
Re: If there is no M5 II... again
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justmeMN wrote:

lumenite wrote: But what if there is no M5 series any more? If it is the case, what would you choose?

My guess is that Canon wants the current M5 Crowd to choose RP.

The RP is an entry level FF camera, it doesn't replace a high end APS-C camera.

There's more to a camera than just a sensor.

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rrc1967 Senior Member • Posts: 1,984
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KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

lumenite wrote: But what if there is no M5 series any more? If it is the case, what would you choose?

My guess is that Canon wants the current M5 Crowd to choose RP.

… and lose out on the 32 f1.4 and 22 f2

Thing is, RP isn’t even a upgrade to lowly M50 and where is the UWA in the R system?

not sure why you say that

for low light it is - 1-1.5 stops better which is huge

I'll take the new 85 f1.2R on the RP any day over what the M50 can do

I'll take the new 15 -35 F2.8 R over what the M50 can do

glass and FF rules for image quality

Except for 2 things:

1) M50 is better at ISO 100-400 due to better dynamic range

2) RF 15-35 isn’t available and could in fact be as real as for instance XF 33/1.0.

it's available by preorder and shipping on Sept 26.

rrc1967 Senior Member • Posts: 1,984
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justmeMN wrote:

lumenite wrote: But what if there is no M5 series any more? If it is the case, what would you choose?

My guess is that Canon wants the current M5 Crowd to choose RP.

you mention this alot. But there's no substance to it.   Of course, Canon would rather you purchase into a more expensive full frame ecosystem, but they are also smart enough to realize that not all people will.

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Re: If there is no M5 II... again

MAC wrote:

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

KEG wrote:

MAC wrote:

justmeMN wrote:

lumenite wrote: But what if there is no M5 series any more? If it is the case, what would you choose?

My guess is that Canon wants the current M5 Crowd to choose RP.

… and lose out on the 32 f1.4 and 22 f2

Thing is, RP isn’t even a upgrade to lowly M50 and where is the UWA in the R system?

not sure why you say that

for low light it is - 1-1.5 stops better which is huge

I'll take the new 85 f1.2R on the RP any day over what the M50 can do

I'll take the new 15 -35 F2.8 R over what the M50 can do

glass and FF rules for image quality

Except for 2 things:

1) M50 is better at ISO 100-400 due to better dynamic range

DR will come into play in less than 5% of shots

whereas, FF sharpness and low light noise play in a huge % of shots

2) RF 15-35 isn’t available and could in fact be as real as for instance XF 33/1.0.

coming soon

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1502499-REG/canon_3682c002_rf_15_35mm_f_2_8l_is.html

The problem with the R system is that it makes Apple and Fuji products look like absolute bargains in comparision.

the R with R lenses is expensive

the RP isn’t an IQ upgrade over my $895 6d

fuji for APSc is expensive

i looked today at the iso 100 samples between the 6d and the m6ii and I could definitely see more resolution in the m6ii.

With a few more f1.4 sharp native lenses the m will be something

Thankfully, a well-known Sigma trio is coming, in addition to newly an announced Viltrox trio.

Need to see canons commitment to m

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